Defense Says Plot to Kidnap Michigan Governor Was ‘Big Talk’ Stoked by FBI

(L) Ty Garbin and (R) Adam Fox, two of the 13 men charged in the alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, appeared in court in Michigan on Oct. 13, 2020. Kent County Sheriff via AP

Defense lawyers for some of the men charged in an alleged plot to kidnap Michigan’s governor described the men as “military wannabes” who talk a lot but don’t actually follow through on what they discuss.

“Have you ever dealt with big talkers?” defense attorney Scott Graham asked an FBI agent on cross-examination during a hearing in federal court in Michigan on Oct. 13. “There’s kind of a military-wanna-be theme that runs between the militias.”