“The cells don’t lie. The clots don’t lie. The damaged organs don’t lie,” says pathologist Ryan Cole.
On this episode of “American Thought Leaders,” host Jan Jekielek speaks with Dr. Ryan Cole on the alarming trends he and some of his colleagues have noted since the rollout of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, including a rise in cancer rates and the emergence of large blood clots affecting many organs in the body.
Jan Jekielek: When we last talked, you were seeing viruses that typically only occur in children, occurring in adults. You were seeing upticks in rare cancers. Where are things now?
Ryan Cole: Same story, different day. Still seeing unusual things. Still being attacked for trying to share science and data, even though I have no agenda other than science and data. For example, we’re still seeing unusual cancers in unusual age groups at slightly higher rates. This is now confirmed by certain federal data sets. The cancer trends are markedly up, and that’s from the CDC’s own trend data sets. So I’m not just a voice in the wilderness. There’s statistical data, and other nations are seeing the same.
Mr. Jekielek: I want to talk about these cells that clean things up, phagocytes, if I recall correctly.
Dr. Cole: You have an immediate-reacting arm of the immune system and a slow-acting arm. Your immediate arm is your innate immune system. That’s your phagocytes, your natural killer cells. They’re the Marines of the immune system. They’re ready at a moment’s notice when something comes to attack. Your adaptive immune system, that’s your antibodies. That’s the delayed response.
They work in tandem, but there are now countless papers on the Pfizer vaccines showing that these Marines of the immune system were no longer reacting in the robust manner they normally do.
Now, you have a perfect storm for the ability of other infections to infect the human body. We saw this last year when RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) in children was out of season. Then, we saw adults getting RSV and being hospitalized, which is usually only threatening to newborns and children under the age of 1 due to the size of their windpipe. That immediate responsive arm isn’t as robust as it should be in the majority of people who have received the shots, and we don’t know how long these individuals are going to remain in this immune-suppressed state.
But it does seem to be a dose-accumulated effect, with the spike protein from the injections having a dose-dependent toxicity. The more spike you get, the longer your body keeps making it, and the more adversely systems are affected.
Mr. Jekielek: Before we go there, I want to find out more about what’s happened with your career. Eight, nine months is a long time.
Dr. Cole: I’ve had a 26-year-long career being a physician. Now, all of a sudden, I find myself in the crosshairs for sharing science. I lost one of my major insurance contracts for the “unprofessional behavior” of talking about Ivermectin and helping save a handful of lives. My business has gone down. My name is mud in my region, though I seem to be a folk hero in some people’s eyes. I’m taking it on the chin financially, with six daughters—four in college—and a family to feed. I’ve invited anyone in the world who disagrees with me to bring me better data. Crickets.
Some universities, thankfully, are starting to do some studies. It’s nice to see other scientists stepping up and doing what I know the profession can do. These are smart people, and they shouldn’t be afraid of real science.
Mr. Jekielek: How often is it the disease versus the vaccine spike?
Dr. Cole: Early on, COVID primarily was a clotting disease. With Omicron, we don’t see the same pathophysiology. I call it COLDVID now, not COVID, because, in the majority of people, it’s a common cold. But the vaccinal spike is still the original Wuhan spike. That’s the clotting spike.
The Omicron spike is not the clotting spike. When I see individuals, it’s roughly a 20-fold less clotting effect from Omicron, compared to the Wuhan and the earlier variants. It’s acting differently because of the mutations it has acquired.
So, we now know the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself, because the vaccine still has all those pro-clotting abilities, all those inflammatory abilities, whereas the spike from Omicron does not. The fact that the Wuhan spike was left in any of these vaccines, when it went extinct more than a year-and-a-half ago, is really perplexing. We’re vaccinating against something which doesn’t exist anymore, technically, and that brings all the risks with zero benefit. The vaccine can still cause the clotting and trigger those inflammatory pathways. It can get into our mitochondria and destroy our mitochondrial function, which is the respiration of every cell in our body.
I don’t judge what people do—whether they got a shot, or didn’t get a shot, people did what they thought best at the time. What I say now is, if you got one, don’t get two. If you got two, definitely don’t get three. If you got three, please don’t get four. Because Wuhan is gone.
Every pathologist in the world, not just me, can find that spike protein in those cardiac tissues. It can destroy any tissue in the body. The spike itself doesn’t destroy the tissue. The spike lands and triggers an inflammatory reaction. The body wants to react to it. Then, all those inflammatory cells release cytokines and chemicals that will end up munching away those tissues.
You look at the country of Iceland, a small country, 350,000 some people, one of the most compliant nations in terms of the shot. And in July, just a few months ago, their excess mortality rate above a five-year average was 56 percent. That’s astronomical.
Every coroner, every medical examiner needs to test for a spike protein in a nucleocapsid stain on every organ in the body of every young deceased person. Simple as that.
Mr. Jekielek: Recently, the surgeon general of Florida, Joseph Ladapo, offered guidance saying men under 39 shouldn’t get these genetic vaccines, because of the dramatic increase of myocarditis harms or deaths.
Dr. Cole: Dr. Ladapo did the required studies that have been done historically, and I think it’s a rational conclusion. Young men don’t have a risk for death from this disease, especially with Omicron—COLDVID not COVID—but we’re still requiring our military and some young healthy people to get vaccinated. A study last year looked at myocarditis in athletes. For half of athletes, it was subclinical, meaning they didn’t know their heart was inflamed, but on scan, their heart was inflamed. I would encourage every surgeon general in this nation to follow Dr. Lapado’s example.
Mr. Jekielek: We’ve had some shocking reporting about these clots that embalmers pulled, white fibrous clots. Have you seen these?
Dr. Cole: I have several from the embalmers and several from clinicians who pulled them from living patients. We have lots of proteins circulating in our blood. We have antibodies, complements system, and our blood cells proper. These are induced into a clumping pattern by the spike protein.
I have some samples of clots that are a couple of feet long. I’ve looked at them under the microscope, and that spike protein is really what’s inducing this clotting pathway. And this spike goes everywhere. The lipid nanoparticle takes the gene everywhere, and the spike goes everywhere.
Mr. Jekielek: It’s incredible.
Dr. Cole: My question is, why are we still doing this? We know the pathways of harm. The cells don’t lie. The clots don’t lie. The damaged organs don’t lie.
Mr. Jekielek: Why are so few pathologists talking about this?
Dr. Cole: Institutional fear. A lot of them talk about it privately, just not publicly. A lot of them in the universities also have large grants. They know if they speak out against the NIH’s narrative, they won’t get funding. Some of the private groups fear cancellation by their medical community and insurance companies.
Silence is contagious, but so is courage. I would encourage my colleagues to be courageous. Tell the truth. Say what you’re seeing. See something, say something.
Mr. Jekielek: Dr. Cole, any final thoughts as we finish?
Dr. Cole: That’s a silver lining in this chaos: Health and wellness have become more important. More people are health conscious. And the world is still a good place with good people, in spite of all of this. Let’s focus on each other. Let’s be kind. Let’s not allow politics to mess up medicine. It’s always a new day, and let’s be grateful for it.
This interview has been edited for clarity and brevity.