CBC President Marie-Philippe Bouchard defended her network against accusations of bias and toxic workplace culture, saying the network is “striving to be balanced” and that most staff have a “widely positive” experience in working for the publicly funded broadcaster.
“We are independent from all government interference in terms of editorial direction and creative freedom,” Bouchard said in her testimony. “We strive to be balanced. Are we always, every minute of every day, managing that? It’s impossible to do that ... but overall, we are striving to be balanced.”
In his complaint, Dhanraj alleges he was racially discriminated against as a “token” minority, pressured to accept editorial bias, and retaliated against for speaking out, all of which he says led to him announce his resignation in early July.
CBC and Conservatives
When asked by Thomas on Oct. 20 about the truthfulness of Dhanraj’s allegations, Bouchard said she would offer no comment, but went on to say that employees, including herself, routinely report “widely positive” experiences in working at CBC.“So as CEO, you have not [looked into his complaints yourself], but you have simply allowed others to do that work for you?” Thomas asked.
Bouchard said she would reserve most of her comments due to the pending human rights tribunal case over the Dhanraj matter.
“Unfortunately, I’m limited in the comments that I can make, because we are going to hear the evidence at that tribunal,” said Bouchard, adding that “one individual’s claims does not make a whole organization’s culture.”
Thomas also asked Bouchard why she thought Conservatives are “not welcome at the CBC,” referencing a leaked recording in which Dhanraj allegedly asks CBC management why it was difficult for CBC to get interviews with Conservatives.
“I would say Conservatives are quite welcome at the CBC,” Bouchard said. “In fact, they are interviewed regularly.”
When asked to name five Conservatives interviewed in the past two weeks, Bouchard said she couldn’t answer at the moment, but agreed to submit the relevant information to the committee by Oct. 30.
Measuring Value
Bouchard said that CBC measures the public value it provides by looking at how many people it reaches, how they spend their time consuming CBC content, if the network is perceived as having “fairness” and “diversity,” and how the network helps boost Canada’s creative industries.Defending against further questions around bias, Bouchard said she is confident in CBC’s integrity and editorial balance.
Future Plans
In her remarks, Bouchard outlined a three-pronged approach for CBC in the coming years built on “proximity, digital agility, and bringing people together.”She explained this plan as being focused on hiring journalists in more rural locations and covering issues important to all Canadians, making CBC content easy to access across platforms, and “creating opportunities for shared Canadian experiences” in order to bring people together, including partnering with organizations like the Indigenous Screen Office and Black Screen Office, which promote hiring indigenous and black individuals in screen industries.
“We want to help people overcome any challenges that ... might be in the way so that they can reach various positions or develop their skills,” Bouchard said.
Bouchard pointed to CBC’s seven international bureaus and “digital services used by 20 million Canadians each month” as evidence that the network is performing a vital role for the country in informing and entertaining, though she added that several Western provinces don’t have the level of trust for CBC that she would like to see.
“Alberta and Saskatchewan are areas where we need to invest,” Bouchard said. “The level of trust is not as high as we would like.”
Bouchard was also asked about the broadcaster’s court action to refuse an order by the information commissioner to disclose the number of subscribers of CBC’s Gem streaming service.
“Are you embarrassed about the numbers of CBC Gem? Why don’t you come out and just say ‘Here’s the numbers we got,’?” Conservative MP Kevin Waugh asked.
Bouchard said 5 million people have created an account, but declined to say how many are paid subscribers.
Divide
A July 2024 poll from Pollara Strategic Insights found that only 16 percent of Conservative voters often got their news from CBC, compared to 43 percent of Liberal voters, and found that a lower percentage of people polled in rural areas trust CBC compared to those in urban areas.“I’m not oblivious to the fact that some people claim there is bias,“ Bouchard said. ”But that’s not our policy, that’s not our practice.”
Bouchard also commented on online disinformation, saying CBC needs to resist online algorithms that are pushing “the extremes” and taking away oxygen from “open dialogue” that should be taking place. She said that CBC has a key role in helping to create a “civilized and civic discourse around the news.”







