White House ‘Can’t Confirm’ If US Shot Down Hobbyist Balloon

White House ‘Can’t Confirm’ If US Shot Down Hobbyist Balloon
U.S. F-22 stealth jets intercepted four Russian bombers and two Russian Su-35 fighter jets off the coast of Alaska, according to a statement from North American Aerospace Defense Command, on May 20, 2019. (NORAD Command)
Jack Phillips
2/17/2023
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2/17/2023
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Both the White House and U.S. military officials are not sure whether the military shot down a hobbyist balloon last week after the group said that one of its pico balloons went missing.

The Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade said earlier this week that one of its balloons went missing and was last detected at around 12:48 a.m. UTC on Feb. 11 near the coast of Alaska near Hagemeister Island. That’s located hundreds of miles from Deadhorse, near where U.S. officials say an F-22 jet shot down an unknown object at the same time.

The club’s balloon traveled for 123 days and 18 hours of flight before it disappeared. “For now, we are calling Pico Balloon K9YO Missing in Action,” the club’s website stated, although it did not make any claims that the military took down the balloon amid heightened tensions with China over a suspected spy balloon that was shot down days earlier.

Other objects were shot down last weekend, including one over Lake Huron near Michigan, and another in Canada’s Yukon Territory. Only the remains of the suspected Chinese spy balloon have been recovered.

A later post from the group said that “it is not unusual for significant periods of time to elapse between received transmissions” and added: “As has been widely reported, no part of the object shot down by the U.S. Air Force jet over the Yukon Territory has been recovered. Until that happens and that object is confirmed to be an identifiable pico balloon, any assertions or claims that our balloon was involved in that incident are not supported by facts.”

Other than the Illinois group’s posts this week, other hobbyists have suspected a private balloon may have been taken down.

“I tried contacting our military and the FBI—and just got the runaround—to try to enlighten them on what a lot of these things probably are. And they’re going to look not too intelligent to be shooting them down,” Ron Meadows, the founder of Scientific Balloon Solutions, told Aviation Week.

Speaking to the same publication, another balloon enthusiast agreed that it’s probably a pico balloon, which can cost between $12 and $150.

“I’m guessing probably they were pico balloons,” said Tom Medlin, a retired FedEx engineer who currently has three pico balloons in flight.

‘Can’t Confirm’

In a recent news conference, President Joe Biden said that the objects that were recently shot down—other than the suspected spy balloon—may have been for private or commercial use. No U.S. officials have gone on record, including anonymously, to confirm whether a hobby balloon was shot down in recent days.

A spokesperson for U.S. Northern Command and NORAD told The Epoch Times on Thursday that the command has “no information ... on the objects,” adding that they believe the “FBI spoke with that hobby group” about the incident. The FBI has not immediately responded to a request for comment.

“I expect the [National Security Council] task force to have more on the potential identification of the objects,” the spokesperson told The Epoch Times in response to a question about whether officials could confirm the report that a hobbyist balloon was shot down.

On Friday, National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said that the White House is aware of the Illinois balloonist group’s claims. However, U.S. officials cannot confirm its accuracy because the debris from the object hasn’t been recovered and may never be, he said.

John Kirby, coordinator for Strategic Communications at the National Security Council in the White House, speaks during a press briefing at the White House on Jan. 12, 2023. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)
John Kirby, coordinator for Strategic Communications at the National Security Council in the White House, speaks during a press briefing at the White House on Jan. 12, 2023. (Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images)

“We just can’t confirm those reports or what the remains of that balloon might actually end up being and we haven’t recovered it,” Kirby said, later adding, “Given the circumstances, in light of what happened with this spy balloon, wouldn’t that be a better outcome? If it turns out that they were in fact civilian or recreational use or weather balloon and therefore benign, which is what the intelligence community thinks, isn’t that a better outcome?”

Previously, Kirby noted that recovery of the objects shot down in Alaska and the Yukon would be hampered by severe Artic weather conditions and geographic challenges in the area. During Friday’s press conference, Kirby again noted that recovery of the Alaska object may never happen.

Temperatures in Deadhorse, a highly remote area located along Prudhoe Bay above the Arctic Circle, currently stand at around -26 degrees Fahrenheit. Regarding the Yukon object, officials say an F-22 shot it down about 100 miles from the Canada–Alaska border in the central Yukon, a highly mountainous region just south of the Arctic Circle.
Jack Phillips is a breaking news reporter with 15 years experience who started as a local New York City reporter. Having joined The Epoch Times' news team in 2009, Jack was born and raised near Modesto in California's Central Valley. Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/jackphillips5
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