The Secret Service agent who was driving the SUV transporting then-President Donald Trump to the White House after his speech at the Save America rally on Jan. 6, 2021, refuted the claim that the president attempted to grab the wheel of the vehicle, according to a U.S. House of Representatives report issued on March 11.
The agent, whose name hasn’t been revealed by lawmakers, told a House panel that he “did not see him reach.”
President Trump “never grabbed the steering wheel,” the agent said, according to a transcript reviewed by The Epoch Times. “I didn’t see him lunge to try to get into the front seat at all.”
The testimony was given to the Democrat-dominated select committee convened to investigate the events of Jan. 6, 2021, in the previous Congress, but the transcript wasn’t released by the committee.
Cassidy Hutchinson, a former White House aide, testified to the panel in her fourth interview, in 2022, that she was told by Anthony Ornato, another Secret Service agent, that he was informed by a fellow agent that President Trump attempted to grab the steering wheel.
“Tony said something to the effect of, ‘did you hear what [expletive] happened?’” Ms. Hutchinson testified on June 20, 2022. Mr. Ornato then “retold the story,” she said. According to that story, when President Trump entered the presidential vehicle, known as the Beast, after his speech at the Ellipse, he said he wanted to travel to the Capitol.
She said the story was that President Trump became upset when he was told he would be taken back to the White House instead. “He lunged forward into what I believe ... would be called the cab of the presidential limo and went to grab at the steering wheel,” she said. When an agent said, “We’re going back to the White House” and “that’s final,” President Trump “was extremely angry at that response and used his free hand, to my understanding, to then lunge at Bobby Engel,” Ms. Hutchinson claimed, attributing the story to Mr. Ornato.
However, House Republicans said in the new report that this version of the story was false, according to the vehicle driver’s testimony.
“Despite the driver of the president’s SUV testifying under oath that the Hutchinson story was false, the select committee chose to validate and promote Hutchinson’s version of the story as fact. The select committee hid the driver’s full testimony and only favorably mentioned his testimony in its final report, it did not release the full transcript,” they stated in the report.
Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), the chairman of the now-disbanded select committee, said in a statement that his panel explained in 2022 that it had to send some transcripts to the Executive Branch for review “to protect sensitive information as well as the privacy of witnesses.” He said the panel’s final report “took into account the testimony of all witnesses” and that “all the evidence points to the same conclusion: Donald Trump wanted to join his violent mob as it marched on the Capitol.”
The Jan. 6 select committee didn’t release the driver’s transcript. Neither did House Republicans. A Republican aide declined to provide it.
The first time he heard it, he said, was when Ms. Hutchinson testified about it during a public hearing.
Ms. Hutchinson’s lawyer didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Key Details Changed
Ms. Hutchinson, who was an assistant to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, changed key details in her testimony, including whether anything happened while President Trump was being driven from the Ellipse.In her first interviews, Ms. Hutchinson didn’t mention President Trump lunging for an agent or the wheel of the vehicle.
Even in her fourth interview, she got a detail wrong. She claimed President Trump tried to grab the wheel of the Beast, the presidential state vehicle, but President Trump was being driven in an SUV.
An erratum she sent to the select committee updated some parts of her previous testimony, according to portions of the errata included in the new GOP report.
Another update dealt with then-Vice President Mike Pence. Ms. Hutchinson said for the first time in her fourth interview that she overheard Mr. Meadows say that President Trump thought Mr. Pence should be hanged, and also heard chants of “hang Mike Pence” in the White House dining room.
The errata was never released by the select committee.
White House Officials Contradict Hutchinson
Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), who’s leading the GOP probe, was able to recently review testimony from the driver and others, including four White House officials.In its final report, the select committee said that the officials gave testimony corroborating Ms. Hutchinson’s account.
But the transcripts showed that their testimony didn’t corroborate Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony, the interim report states.
One of the employees, for instance, said he didn’t recall President Trump commenting on chants of “hang Mike Pence” or saying that Mr. Pence should be hanged.
Another employee said that they weren’t aware of anything that happened in the vehicle transporting President Trump following the rally.
A third official, who spoke to Mr. Ornato, didn’t testify that President Trump lunged at the driver or wheel of the vehicle, although they did describe President Trump as irate.
Republicans said the testimony “directly contradicts claims made by Cassidy Hutchinson and by the select committee in the final report.”
Trump Wanted to Go to the Capitol
The driver did say that President Trump wanted to go to the Capitol, backing one part of Ms. Hutchinson’s testimony.“I don’t remember exactly what prompted it or how that portion of the conversation kind of grew organically, but he was pushing pretty hard to go,” the Secret Service agent said. “The thing that sticks out most was he kept asking why we couldn’t go, why we couldn’t go, and that he wasn’t concerned about the people that were there or referenced them being Trump people or Trump supporters.”
When President Trump was told that there was no plan in place for the president to go to the Capitol and that they should go to the White House, President Trump “kept insisting that he wanted to go to the Capitol and that it would essentially be fine and that the people there were supporters or something to that effect,” the driver said.
The select committee’s final report says that a key question was whether President Trump intended to “participate personally in the January 6th efforts at the Capitol” and “there is no question from all the evidence assembled that President Trump did have that intent.”
One of the White House officials said that some officials in the Situation Room were monitoring whether President Trump was heading to the Capitol and that the official first became aware of discussions about possible movement to the Capitol within minutes of President Trump leaving to speak at the rally on the Ellipse.
Another official, though, said they would have known whether President Trump planned to go to the Capitol and that they didn’t hear about any such plans. And a third White House employee said that the Secret Service was “telling me that this was not a thing.” The fourth White House employee, who was close to Mr. Pence throughout the day on Jan. 6, 2021, said that there were no plans for President Trump to go to the Capitol but that they learned that the president might go there at about 1 p.m.
The driver also said that President Trump was irritated but not as agitated as he had been earlier in the day. The third White House employee also described President Trump as irate.
