Major Broker Calls $464 Million Trump Bond a ‘Practical Impossibility’

‘I have never heard of nor seen an appeal bond of this size for a private company or individual,’ said an official from the Lockton Companies.
Major Broker Calls $464 Million Trump Bond a ‘Practical Impossibility’
Former President Donald Trump stands on stage during the 2024 National Religious Broadcasters International Christian Media Convention Presidential Forum at The Gaylord Opryland Resort and Convention Center in Nashville, Tenn. on February 22, 2024 (Jon Cherry/Getty Images)
Catherine Yang
3/18/2024
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3/19/2024
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Gary Giulietti, an executive with the largest privately held insurance brokerage firm in the world, said the bond required of former President Donald Trump is very rarely issued by surety companies, making it a “practical impossibility” to obtain.

Mr. Giulietti, president of the Northeast region for the Lockton Companies, is one of four insurance brokers that Trump attorneys say have been retained to get the $464 million bond while he appeals his civil fraud verdict.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has threatened to seize President Trump’s assets if he does not post that amount.

In a March 15 affidavit filed on March 18, Mr. Giulietti stated that very few surety companies in the world could issue a bond that big, and they don’t do it for private individuals.

“As an initial matter, only a handful of sureties are approved by the U.S. Department of Treasury to underwrite bonds for a sum as high as the Judgment Amount,” he wrote.

Of those, he said, many have internal policies to limit single bonds, and “will generally only issue a single bond up to $100 million.”

Trump attorneys had offered to put up a $100 million bond. An appeals court has yet to rule on whether this will be sufficient to stay the civil fraud judgment, which includes disgorgement of more than $350 million.

The court also temporarily banned President Trump and others from doing business in New York, and is requiring ongoing monitorship of the Trump Organization, which may result in additional penalties.

30 Companies Said No

Mr. Giulietti detailed his “extensive surety risk experience,” stating that during his 50-year career, he’s worked closely with every major insurance company and specialized in real estate in a previous position.

“Lockton has an entire department devoted to surety and underwrites thousands of bonds a year, including numerous appeal bonds,” he added. “I have never heard of nor seen an appeal bond of this size for a private company or individual.”

Over the “last several weeks,” he and several other brokers “diligently” sought to obtain the $464 million bond even before a New York trial court judge finalized judgment.

In the “countless hours negotiating with the largest insurance companies in the world,” they have “been unsuccessful.”

More than 30 companies have turned the defendants down, according to Trump attorneys.

A $100 million bond is considered large, and $464 million is “commercially unattainable for a privately owned company,” Mr. Giulietti wrote, even if the company had “billions of dollars in real estate.”

This is primarily because sureties big enough to write a $464 million bond won’t accept hard assets like real estate as collateral.

This includes AXA XL, Hartford, Nationwide Sompo, Travelers, Berkshire Hathaway, CNA Casualty, Liberty Mutual, and others, Mr. Giulietti stated. These surety companies generally are not equipped to “manage, control, or dispose of real property” and therefore cannot take on the risk of needing to sell real estate quickly should a bond claim be made.

A company would need “cash or cash equivalents approaching $1 billion” to obtain a bond of that size because most sureties require collateral of 120 percent, upfront premiums, and cash left over for operations, he estimated.

Mr. Giulietti stated that while the Trump Organization “is in a strong liquidity position,” it doesn’t have $1 billion cash, and to require the defendants to sell off assets to obtain the bond “would be so astronomical as to render it both crippling and punitive.”

Negotiation Fell Through

Attorney Alan Garten stated in a separate affidavit that every surety company approached was unwilling to take real estate as collateral.

He revealed that Chubb was the only company willing to consider real estate as collateral but after actively negotiating for a week they turned it down.

Three defendants in the case are special purpose companies whose sole assets are real estate, and two defendants are holding companies whose main assets are real estate.

“As a result, there is simply no way for Defendants to tap into the substantial equity in these properties needed to collateralize a bond for $464 million without causing irreparable harm,” Mr. Garten argued.