Johnson, Jeffries to Debate Government Shutdown on C-SPAN

The debate between the House speaker and the chamber’s minority leader will be held at an unspecified date, on the television program ‘Ceasefire.’

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) passes the gavel to House Speaker-elect Mike Johnson (R-La.) during the first sitting of the 119th Congress in Washington on Jan. 3, 2025. Madalina Vasiliu/The Epoch Times

The Speaker of the House of Representatives Mike Johnson (R-La.) and the body’s Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) will participate in a televised debate about the ongoing U.S. government shutdown on the Cable-Satellite Public Affairs Network (C-SPAN).

Johnson and Jeffries have appeared separately on C-SPAN previously, with Johnson taking the public’s calls frequently to explain the Republican posture on the ongoing shutdown. Jeffries previously requested a debate with Johnson on the floor of the House to articulate the Democratic perspective on the situation, and Johnson did not respond to that offer.

Both leaders expressed to C-SPAN their willingness to engage with each other, and the network announced on Oct. 15 that a debate between them would be held on the show “Ceasefire” hosted by Politico’s White House Bureau Chief, Dasha Burns. The date of the debate is yet to be determined.

“We’re going to try to get it scheduled,” Jeffries said in remarks quoted by C-SPAN in its announcement of the debate.

“Hakeem, let’s sit down together, OK?” Johnson said in remarks made and quoted separately.

The House of Representatives has not held a regular session since Sept. 19, when it passed the Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act of 2026—a temporary measure to fund the U.S. Government for three months until full-year spending bills could be negotiated and enacted. The Senate has not passed the same bill because, to advance to a final vote, the support of 60 senators is required according to that body’s rules, and only 55 have supported the bill so far.

Democrats in both houses of Congress have demanded that any temporary funding measure include an extension of health insurance subsidies enacted by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010, known as Obamacare. Those subsidies, many in the form of tax credits, will expire on Dec. 31 of this year.

The government funding authorized by the House-passed bill would have expired on Nov. 21. In contrast, Democrats have introduced their own bill with the Obamacare subsidies and other measures included, which Republicans have opposed. The GOP, historically opposed to Obamacare, has said that its subsidies are a separate policy question from government funding and should be addressed after the government reopens.

“With regard to the subsidies, that is 100 percent a red herring, a distraction. This is what Chuck Schumer and the Democrats put together to try to make the issue of the day,” Johnson said in a television appearance.

Jeffries, addressing the subsidies issue after meeting with President Donald Trump for negotiations on Sept. 29, said, “It’s a deadly serious issue for the American people ... more than 20 million Americans are on the brink of experiencing dramatically increased premiums, co-pays and deductibles because of the Republican refusal to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, which benefit working class Americans.”

Several backbench members of both the House Republican Conference and House Democratic Caucus have dissented from their leaders’ positions.

“I’m going to go against everyone on this issue,” Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) wrote on social media, indicating that she supports extending the Obamacare subsidies. “When the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district ... I’m not [toeing] the party line on this, or playing loyalty games.”

Rep. Jared Golden (D-Maine) wrote on social media, blaming his own party for the situation: “This government shutdown is the result of hardball politics driven by the demands far-left groups are making for Democratic Party leaders to put on a show of their opposition to President Trump.

“This fight is ostensibly about health care ... normal policy disagreements are no reason to subject our constituents to the continued harm of this shutdown.”