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Heather Mac Donald on Meritocracy Versus Diversity

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Heather Mac Donald on Meritocracy Versus Diversity
Manhattan Institute fellow Heather Mac Donald, author of "The Diversity Delusion." Illustration by The Epoch Times, Ke Yuan/The Epoch Times
Jan Jekielek
Jeff Minick
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“You can have meritocracy, or you can have diversity,” says Heather Mac Donald. “You can’t have both.”

In a recent episode of “American Thought Leaders,” host Jan Jekielek sits down with Heather Mac Donald to discuss the Tyre Nichols murder, the erasure of meritocracy in our schools and businesses, and the breakdown of law in our inner cities. Mac Donald is a Manhattan Institute fellow and author of “The War on Cops” and “The Diversity Delusion.” Her new book, “When Race Trumps Merit,” will be released in April.

Jan Jekielek is a senior editor with The Epoch Times, host of the show “American Thought Leaders.” Jan’s career has spanned academia, international human rights work, and now for almost two decades, media. He has interviewed nearly a thousand thought leaders on camera, and specializes in long-form discussions challenging the grand narratives of our time. He’s also an award-winning documentary filmmaker, producing “The Unseen Crisis,” “DeSantis: Florida vs. Lockdowns,” and “Finding Manny.”
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