China Expert Takes a Hard Look at America’s ‘Wishful Thinking’

China Expert Takes a Hard Look at America’s ‘Wishful Thinking’
Michael Pillsbury, Director for Chinese Strategy at the Hudson Institute, and author of “The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower,” in Upperville, Va. on Oct. 25, 2022. Patrick Mauler/The Epoch Times
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“They’re outsmarting us,” says China expert Michael Pillsbury. “It’s really very simple.”

In this recent episode of “American Thought Leaders,” host Jan Jekielek talks with Michael Pillsbury, director for Chinese strategy at the Hudson Institute and author of “The Hundred-Year Marathon: China’s Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower.” Pillsbury played a key role in the United States initiating military and intelligence ties with China as far back as the 1980s. Here, they discuss China’s Warring States tactics, its secret exploitation of America to fuel its own rise, and the pressing reasons why the United States needs to formulate a response.

Jan Jekielek is a senior editor with The Epoch Times, host of the show “American Thought Leaders.” Jan’s career has spanned academia, international human rights work, and now for almost two decades, media. He has interviewed nearly a thousand thought leaders on camera, and specializes in long-form discussions challenging the grand narratives of our time. He’s also an award-winning documentary filmmaker, producing “The Unseen Crisis,” “DeSantis: Florida vs. Lockdowns,” and “Finding Manny.”
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