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Left: Dave Rubin speaks at an event in Austin, Texas, on Sept. 6, 2019. Right: Heather Mac Donald speaks at a talk hosted by the Center for Political Thought & Leadership at Arizona State University, in Tempe, Arizona, on Nov. 12, 2015. Gage Skidmore/Wikimedia Commons
In the latest edition of “The Rubin Report” podcast, two people I adore, Dave Rubin and Heather Mac Donald, dialogue about some of the great issues facing America. Interestingly, though both are secular, Dave opened the interview asking Heather about God and religion.
