“I got a question I want you to answer. We all know Trump has been messing around in the Ukraine over there, over their foreign aid, for them to come up and say they’ll do an investigation … but you, on the other hand, sent your son over there to get a job for a gas company with no experience in order to get access to the president. You’re selling access to the president,” the man said.
He also said Biden was too old.
“You’re a damn liar, man. That’s not true,” Biden interjected. “And no one has ever said that—”
“The hell it ain’t,” the Iowa man responded. “I see it on the TV.”
“I’m not sedentary,” Biden said. “I get up and … the reason I’m running is because I’ve been around a long time and I know more than most people know. And I can get things done. That’s why I’m running. You want to check my shape on, let’s do pushups together, man, let’s run, let’s do whatever you want to do.”
“Number two, no one has said that my son has done anything wrong and I did not on any occasion—and no one has ever said it, not one—
“I didn’t say that you were doing anything wrong,” the man interrupted. “I said—”
“You said I set up my son with work in an oil company. Isn’t that what you said? Get your words straight, Jack,” Biden said.
“That’s what I hear on MSNBC. All day long,” the man said.
“You don’t hear that on MSNBC,” Biden said, prompting the man to tell him: “The hell I don’t.”
Biden said that he didn’t want to get in an argument and the man said he didn’t either. Biden called the man “fat,” and the man told Biden he doesn’t “have any backbone,” leading to shouts from the crowd and Biden to move on to another person.
Biden’s senior advisor Symone Sanders said in a statement later in the day that the Iowa man “is a self-identified Warren supporter who said he would vote for the VP in a general election” whose “facts were flat-out wrong.”
To be clear: Any assertion VP Biden said a word about the gentleman’s appearance is making this something it is not. In the latter part of the exchange, the VP began to say “Look, facts” then said “here’s the deal.” If you’ve been to a Biden event, you’ve heard this before.
— Symone D. Sanders (@SymoneDSanders) December 5, 2019
She also said Biden didn’t call the man “fat,” claiming Biden said: “Look, facts.”
Biden, 77, has been hammered with accusations about his work in Ukraine as vice president when his son was working for the energy company Burisma.
Last year, Biden bragged that he got a prosecutor ousted in 2016 after threatening to withhold $1 billion in aid.
“I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a [expletive]. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden said.
Both Bidens have denied wrongdoing. The prosecutor’s replacement closed the investigation into Burisma but Ukraine’s new top prosecutor is reviewing the case.