Democrat Who Voted Against Impeachment Says Process Reminds Him of ‘Third-World Nations’

By Isabel van Brugen
Isabel van Brugen
Isabel van Brugen
Isabel van Brugen is an award-winning journalist and currently a news reporter at The Epoch Times. She holds a master's in newspaper journalism from City, University of London.
November 19, 2019 Updated: November 19, 2019

A Democratic congressman has denounced the process of the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump as akin to “something you would see in Europe or third-world nations.”

Rep. Jeff Van Drew (D-N.J.) is one of two Democrats who voted in October against the impeachment process resolution, which no Republicans voted for.

During an appearance on Fox Nation’s “Maria Bartiromo’s Insiders,” Van Drew said his decision to vote against the House impeachment inquiry is not related to Trump, but rather, is about “not misusing” the institution of impeachment.

“We have to understand; impeachment is something that’s supposed to be exceptionally unusual. It is supposed to be bipartisan. It is supposed to be fair,” Van Drew said on Nov. 18.

“This has nothing to do with whether you like Donald Trump, or don’t like him, or want to see him have a second term or win in an election. This has to do with the institution of impeachment itself and not misusing it.”

The resolution Van Drew voted against passed 232–196 and also lacked a vote from Rep. Collin Peterson (D-Minn.).

Van Drew referred to a piece written more than 150 years ago by French political thinker and historian Alexis de Tocqueville on the subject of impeachment, alluding to the probe against Trump as reflecting the decline of the nation.

“You know, De Tocqueville in 1853 wrote that if a nation was more and more often using … impeachment as a way of actually removing its leaders, it would show the deterioration of the nation,” he said.

“It is so rarely used, should be rarely used. And as I’ve mentioned to you before, it is something that during the hundreds of years of American history has never been successfully used.”

The congressman then compared the impeachment process to “more like something you would see in Europe or third-world nations,” and suggested House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should instead focus on “real issues.”

“So wouldn’t it be wonderful at the end of this presidency, to the benefit of both political parties, but most of all, to the benefit of Americans, if we actually got some of these very important issues finished and taken care of instead? It will not happen in this toxic atmosphere,” Van Drew said.

He also said during an appearance on Fox’s “Sunday Morning Futures” that his House colleagues have expressed concern about the impeachment inquiry.

“There is some discussion among some of them, quietly, privately, of concern, certainly,” he said.

“I mean, what I’m hearing out in the street is they’re kind of tired. They’re kind of worn out. They’re kind of bored, most folks. And they really want to move on unless there’s something new and amazing. We know the end game here.”

Van Drew said that he would probably vote “no” if the House votes to impeach Trump but said he’s not sure how other members of Congress will vote.

Three witnesses testified in public last week, primarily conveying secondhand or even thirdhand information about the actions of Trump relating to Ukraine. Democrats argue that Trump effectively committed “bribery” by reviewing military aid approved by Congress as he requested Ukraine look into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden as well as Ukrainian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.

Ukrainian officials and U.S. State Department personnel have said Ukraine wasn’t aware the aid was put on hold for a review, undercutting the claim.

Vice President Mike Pence’s national security aide, Jennifer Williams, and David Holmes, a U.S. embassy official in Kyiv, were among those testifying behind closed doors last week, as secret depositions continue to take place alongside open hearings.

The next open hearings are slated for Nov. 19 and 20, with former U.S. special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker, Williams, National Security Council Ukraine specialist Alexander Vindman, and Tim Morrison, a former National Security Council expert, testifying on Nov. 19.

Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, was scheduled to answer questions on Nov. 20, followed by Laura Cooper, a deputy assistant secretary at the Defense Department, and David Hale, the undersecretary of state for political affairs at the State Department.

Fiona Hill, a former Russia expert on the National Security Council, is scheduled to speak on Nov. 21.

Zachary Stieber contributed to this report.

Isabel van Brugen
Isabel van Brugen
Isabel van Brugen is an award-winning journalist and currently a news reporter at The Epoch Times. She holds a master's in newspaper journalism from City, University of London.