Jodi Arias Trial: Sentencing Phase Not Rescheduled Yet by Judge


The sentencing phase for Jodi Arias still hasn’t been decided on after an abrupt postponement earlier this month.

Jury selection for the sentencing phase was supposed to start on March 17. That date was set after months of hearings.

However, it came to light several weeks ago that prosecutor Juan Martinez, who is in charge of the Arias trial for the county, has a case that is slated to start on May 12.

That case is for Bryan Hulsey, charged with murdering Glendale police officer Anthony Holly in 2007.

The Hulsey case has been repeatedly postponed, according to the Arizona Republic, and Martinez doesn’t want to see it postponed any further.

He attended a hearing about the scheduling conflict via telephone because he is on medical leave for undisclosed reasons. He suggested that another prosecutor be appointed to the Hulsey trial, but a supervisor who was in the courtroom said that that wouldn’t happen.

Maricopa County Superior Court Presiding Criminal Judge Joseph Welty decided that Judge Sherry Stephens, who is presiding over the Arias trial, will decide when to reschedule the Arias trial for. 

Arias was convicted of murdering her boyfriend Travis Alexander in his Mesa home in 2008.

The jury in the case couldn’t come to a unanimous decision over sentencing. Under Arizona law, prosecutors have the option of re-starting the penalty phase with a new jury.

If a decision still isn’t unanimously reached, Stephens would decide whether to sentence Arias to life in prison without possibility of parole, or time in prison with possibility of parole after 25 years.

Category: US Crime

  • Pamela Valemont

    Please read A Mormon Murder, Jodi Arias and the Killing of Travis Alexander, on Lulu.com, iBookstore or Nook. The book examines the case from the point of view of a forensic criminal numerological profiler. Thank you.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      I/we have been reading your posts for months. We are NOT buying your books. Hawk them at the jodi is innocent sites. You will have better luck there. And remember, if you piss me off bad enough, with your ‘hawking’, I will see to it that Zack bans you! What you gonna do? Step up to ME!!!!!!! Wolf

      • justifiedx3

        Bravo Wolfie! The only affect her peddling has had is the increase of sales of antacids and Pepto-Bismol!

        • Chiron

          I wouldn’t buy her crazy book if my hair was on fire and I had nothing else on hand to beat it out with.

          • justifiedx3

            It appears that Pam and Amy should get together to write a 5000 page fictional novel about numerology, sociopaths, religion, convicted murderers, the effects of drug use, how to lie without an ounce of guilt, blaming others for everything that has as happened, and above all…..trolling on the internet to get ANY type of response because they don’t have a life and are looking for other trolls to verify their existence. Guess they haven’t figured out it is March 1….not April 1!

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Te-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!! = LMBO!!

          • TrialJunky

            And they can dedicate it to James Dean….

          • amy

            I’m confused about why you consider me a troll. I thought this site was a general news site, not a particular forum advocating a particular view.
            I never saw a heading that stated the commentary section was only for those who held acertain view; if I saw anything that said only those who are not supporters of Arias can comment here, I would have respected the rules.

      • Ramblin2

        And one who supports her hawking her ware is dead, using the picture of a convicted murderer. Nice going, Pam.

        • wolfsden6lynn

          *heavy sigh* I keep waiting for a reply from her, but alas, nothing.
          I think she still HATES me from the hp days. I feel SLIGHTED!
          How YOU doin’, Ram?? :)

      • Chiron

        She stabbed an unarmed defenseless man who was naked in the shower 27 times, shot him in the head once and slit his throat from ear to ear. That totals the only number besides Murder One in my book. So her lucky number is 29 and she’s proud of it.

  • takawalk

    I had thought I might find a few friends commenting on this article.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      HEY!! Hiya! I just got here, but it’s late for me! Will send in the MB’s!
      Luv you, tak!! Wolf

      • takawalk

        It is so kool to see you hun. I haven’t been on much and am wondering where some folks have gone. I hope life is treating you well.

        • wolfsden6lynn

          I am well. We are well. Some are just having trouble ‘navigating’ to epoch. We have an awesomely dynamic fb group of Meatballs. Are you interested? If so, I will give you the link. It is ‘restricted’, but, you are a MB, through and through.!! Would LOVE to have you, my friend.! Good folks…much fun!! Wolf

        • wolfsden6lynn

          P.S: I know some people don’t like/want fb, but thought I’d ask. ;)

          • takawalk

            I got rid of my facebook or attempted to, and haven’t looked back. When I get spare time again I will find somewhere to socialize. It pleases me that the meatballs are staying in touch. I dropped in and read through comments and found it way cool how so many connected. It was a rare thing on hp for a group to connect and from a mini community.
            I find myself wondering about Sharyn, There were a few things that made me curious, hopeful, and cautious at the same time. Does she still post? I was happy to see the wolf still howling at the moon.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Sharyn got banned from hp. We got her back in, tho, under an ‘alias’.
            She is up above here…her same ol’ sassy-ass-self!!! :)
            She has picked up a ‘stalker’, and has to be careful. Wolf

  • James Dean

    Jodi, we’re rooting for you!
    I hope they will reverse your conviction!
    Those uncrupulous prosecutors and judges are all corrupt.
    Martinez commits prosecutorial misconduct right under the judge’s nose and she doesn’t bat an eyelid, like it’s all par for the course in her courtroom! And will Martinez be tried for committing this crime? Will he be investigated for suborning PERJURY from Dr Horn??? Will they blow the lid on the conspiracy between Dr Horn and Det Flores? I doubt that!
    >
    They threw Jodi under the bus! We will not stand for this! I urge you to help Jodi! She should NOT be in jail or prison!

    • takawalk

      Yes this girls actions were justifiable. She only did what anyone would do who had her background. She should get a reward for this brutal killing.
      James if you do something similar to this, you can always document the posts you are making on this topic to reinforce your insanity plea.

    • keepsitrealx10

      Really?? She altered her appearance told everyone going to Utah, rented a non descript car loaded up on gas cans, turned her phone off , mysteriously had the license plate turned upside down, waited for the roommates to leave and viciously murdered Travis, went to Utah was as if nothing happened and tried to jump his bones. When caught as everyone who knew her and Travis said it had to be her, she swears she wasn’t there, then swears it was ninjas and two years later and forged letters says it was self defense. She didn’t live with him and had actually moved back to CA and she always had a choice unlike other real abused women. What kind of woman keeps going back for sex when she knows that man is not going to marry her and is dating other women? But it is all Travis’ fault for being honest with her and having sex with her. If that is the case then a lot of men in this world deserve death.

      • wolfsden6lynn

        ‘How Do I Love Thee? Let Me Count The Ways’.
        THANKS KEEP!! Wolf ;)

  • James Dean

    This is Martinez’s MO: to employ junk science and to shout down defence witnesses to secure false, wrongful convictions!
    What Martinez lacks in evidence and common sense, he more than makes up for in being a boorish, impolite loudmouth with no class!
    Arizona: DISBAR MARTINEZ! He’s a menace!
    Sure he may be fun to watch…until they file false murder charges against YOU and YOU will be torn to shreds by Martinez! Theit it will stop being funny!

    • rob

      it’s obvious the elevator can’t make it to your top floor,…. stay in the elevator, the world as the world can’t stand to see your comments that are the epitome of sheer ignorance.

      • wolfsden6lynn

        Completely agree! I just can’t help replying to some of them, tho.
        It’s such FUN.! They really don’t reply back much. Wonder why?

  • James Dean

    The evidence is:
    Travis abused Jodi, it’s fairly clear from their taped phone conversations, from the way Travis behaved, from the fact that he snapped Jodi’s finger as he was kicking her in the ribs while she was lying helpless on the floor! BTW did he drive her to the hospital to treat her fracture? NO WAY, he didnt want to go to jail for domestic violence! Coward! He did so much lasting damage to Jodi, I shudder to think what she must have suffered!!!
    No wonder she felt THREATENED when that monster Travis YELLED out loud that he was GOING TO KILL HER for dropping his cheap camera on the floor as he stormed out of the shower stall to give her chase! She drew the gun on him that she had found in his closet and the gun ACCIDENTALLY fired! She did not MEAN to kill him, only to scare him!!!
    She’s totally innocent of murder I !!!
    Wake up!

  • James Dean

    And don’t ever forget the letters which were precluded (didn’t come into evidence) because Martinez didn’t want YOU to find out the truth!
    In these letters Travis confesses, in his own words, to being a PEDOPHILE! He liked underage girls! He even made Jodi dress up like a school girl! Jodi had to wear PIGTAILS for Travis, there are photos of her in pigtails!
    Yes, Travis was a pedophile, no doubt about that! Jodi even recollects him jacking off to a picture of a young boy!
    STOP feeling sympathetic for Travis! Sympathize with Jodi, she had to endure Travis’s abuse! Horrible!

    • takawalk

      So to keep it short, I assume you are saying what she did was justified?

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Look…The letters were obvious FORGERIES! They were dated from Nov. 27, 2006 to May 27, 2008. HANDWRITTEN. By WHOM? Jodi herself…while in jail. (remember all those contraband pens she got busted with? They weren’t for her ‘art work’).
      Question: Who HAND writes letters? Answer: NObody.
      Question: Who HAND writes letters, to someone they only just recently met, and describes themselves as a ‘pedophile’? Answer: NObody.
      Question: The PIGtails? Answer: I have long hair, too. If I were going to PREMEDITATE a MURDER…I’d braid MINE, too!!…for the SAME reason SHE did.!
      It would appear that your murdering buddy thought of EVERYTHING!…just a little to SLOPPY with her ‘clean up’.

    • keepsitrealx10

      You base all this on a proven and admitted liar. She was caught red handed with letters proven beyond a doubt to be another lie. If you must fight for a cause then why is it with a woman who is a liar, stalker, sexual pervert ( sorry but she liked it) jealous murderer? You ask if I would have been comfortable with Travis watching my kids yes I would but if my son were dating Jodi I would have been terrified!

    • keepsitrealx10

      Be thankful incredibly so, they were not entered into evidence as then the jury would have heard she was willing to even forge letters to validate a lie. So if she would go yo those lengths what else wouldn’t she do? The prosecution would have loved that piece of evidence but the defense team said it was to prejudicial. If the forensics had not proven he was shot last she would be on death row now as to stab him and try to decapitate him when he was incapacitated us beyond unusual cruelty. I understand basing beliefs on emotions but precluding facts does not give your beliefs credibility.

  • James Dean

    If you’re STILL having doubts as to whether Travis was a pedophile or not, ask yourself this question:
    Would you let that creepy-looking baby-faced Travis babysit YOUR children?
    this is a retorical question and I think the answer is pretty obvious: NO, HECK NO!

  • PridebeforetheFall

    It is incredibly sad what happened in this case, but justice was done.

    She is lost, I pray God might lead someone to her that might lead her to Him. The experience of God’s forgiveness is incredible, and the knowledge that you have been released of all sins can make one want to sing God’s praises.

    • Chiron

      That’ll be Dr. Nick. He has a map, a flashlight, and a syringe that delivers justice.

      He also has a shovel and no one will miss her.

    • amy

      Even though your position as to whether Arias is guilty or not is different from mine, I do appreciate the sincerity of your compassion.

      • takawalk

        Perhaps it is because I didn’t take the time to fully read what you have posted. I see that you do attempt to make a case for self defense. There is no question she killed the guy. In my opinion you really have to stretch a lot of rubber bands to bounce back to a conclusion that this could be considered self defense. I will give you kudos for one thing however, in spite of the fact so many disagree you have been respectful. This one thing tempts me to look back and make a attempt to understand your logic. I will wait for what I hope to be a honest answer to a question I asked. If Travis had brutally killed Jodi in the manner she killed him, would you be defending Travis?

        • wolfsden6lynn

          Oh damn. I have read part of her stuff, and I agree…she is respectful.
          I just do NOT understand how people who actually WATCHED the trial, and LOOKED at the evidence, can come to TWO entirely DIFFERENT conclusions as to WHAT happened…and WHY!! Here’s a link to Doc Randle’s page for you. She is a friend..from hp.
          http://Kristinarandle.com/blog/jodi-arias-trial-how-do-you-explain-the-jodi-arias-supporters/

          • takawalk

            There are times in life that my opinion was the result of coming to the same conclusion everybody else did, or almost everybody. Yet later I changed the opinion, because somebody thought outside the box and had a insight I hadn’t considered.
            Some people go against the tide because of personal issues or because it is simply in their DNA. These types often have no respect for those who disagree. I can not imagine finding any path that would lead me to conclude that stabby was acting in self defense or had a justifiable reason for what she did. It is my thought at this time that Amy has history of some type that overcomes reason in this matter. If not that, it could be someone she knows has a good supply of Sudafed and knowledge of what it can be used for aside from controlling allergies.
            Putting that aside, I have learned to never ignore someone who is respectful and willing to listen to your point of view, only to ask that you listen to theirs. I do think Amy is laying in a bed full of “sheet”. I find it difficult to imagine someone will convenience me that Jodi was justified in what she did. Perhaps I might get a better understanding of why she did it, but the “why” doesn’t justify it.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I find the fact that the ‘Jodi minions’ think EVERYBODY perjured themselves…EXCEPT Jodi…is incredible.! (Dr. Horn, Det. Flores, and Deanna Reid). I find myself getting frustrated with them.
            Did ANY of them actually WATCH the trial?
            Facts and Evidence doesn’t lie…but Jodi does. Once the new sentencing phase starts (when that will be..??), I’m sure Jodi will be MORE ‘down and dirty’ than she was the last time…dragging TA’s name and reputation through the mud.

        • amy

          Thank you for your consideration and receptivenes; I appreciate it.
          As to whether I would defend
          Travis or any other man in a situation where the damage to a deceased woman’s body is so extensive, I would hope that I would keep an open mind, not jump to conclusions, not have preconceieved notions, reasearch the evidence, and especially explore research and investigations beyond what mainstream media offers. I used to watch HLN, but it has become so onesided, vengeful, cattyetc., ( and not only about the Arias case).
          I would be much more skeptical and hesitant to believe crime documentaries, shows that feature and reenact scenarios, and not trust LifetimeMovies and everything that is on ” True T.V..
          I used ro believe all of these shows were thoroughly, ethically researched, looking extensively into both sides, with every effort made to fully and accurately depict what really occurred. I found out this far from true, and that actually some of those shows are primarily entertsinment with the slight nod to an effort to legitimacy, by claiming they are based upon a true story.
          Regarding defending a man who caused such geat damage to a woman’s body, I fully admit it would be far less easy to suppose it could be self defense. I know men have been mentally and physically abused by women, even killed by them, and at times quite horribly.
          Because most of the time men are far stronger, far more equipped to fight, the notion that any man was acting out of self defense when he killed a woman would naturally be more suspect and implausible than if the roles were reversed.
          That is not to say such things don ‘t occur_ everything under the sun occurs, truth is stranger than fiction, and I’ve learned that a lot of thingd sre not what they appear, and one should never make hasty conclusions.
          Surely the media would be less likely to believe a man acted in self defense with such evidence on a body.
          I myself, would have to imagine all sorts of possibilities even strsnge and bizarre, but then again, the defendant would likely offer his own scenario of events.
          Evidence like that will generally make people more supect that such a killing was due to rage, jealoudy, possessiveness, a psychotic break, or even the handiwork of a potential serial killer.
          I would suppose a pretty unusual circumstance would have to occur, or an unusual woman, like one quite deranged, or sociopathic, or even some sort of political terrorist, as bizarre as that sounds.
          I think a more plausible csse of caliming a man acted in self defense would be if the deceased was a man, not a woman, if the man had killed a woman because she was such a threat because of her deranged nature, or because a man was trying to protect his family, but of course not all of thst is necessarily to simple self- defense.
          So YES I WOULD DEFEND TRAVIS if I sincerely thought he wasinnocent if he had killed Jodi Arias or anyone else.
          It would not be as readily believable to me, but I would make the effortto learn the truth.
          As I already stated, I do not believe that Travis was a bad person. I obviously don ‘ t believe he premeditated killing Arias.
          I consider it tragic and lamentable that he died.
          I think Travis’s heart was in the right place. Lke Jodi, he had a real interest in spirituality and he was focused on the idea of self- improvement, plus he did care about people, andbelieved in being grateful about what one had, and realizing often other people had fsr less.
          I read about how he tried to learn about ways to become, to his mind, a better person.

  • TrialJunky

    “That’s so debasing. I like it”. Yeah, ok. She was abused. (Eye Roll).

    • amy

      Actually, that she enjoyed that kind of sex points to the fact that she most likely was abused. Especially in their intimate relationships and sexual relationships, adults probably without exception, act out and replay dynamics and occurrences fron from their upbringing; it is a type of ‘ repetition compulsion’. A person tries to, has an unconscious fundamental need to reenact what happened to them, so that they can ‘solve’ it and no longer be controlled or influenced by it.
      It is also likely that things happened to her during her upbringing that she has no conscious memory of because she repressed it.
      As far as her having had claimed at some point that she had a happy childhood, it is very common for children who were abused or neglected, or perhaps treated with a rejecting, indifferent coldness, to insist that they had a happy childhood because not only may their be much that is unconscious and repressed, but many, many children cannot afford to see their parents as a kind of bad’ person who is their enemy’ and is willing to harm them, because a child needs to believe she is safe, protected and cared about, otherwise she would grow up with temendous anxiety and psychological issues that she would be too young to cope with. A child needs to believe that she has an allie.
      Please know that I am in no way blaming, disrespecting, or taking a position that I am ‘ against Travis Alexander. He had a very difficult upbringing. He too had parents that were not sufficent as being allies to ward the child, like all parents should be. Also, please note that I absolutely do NOT believe that Travis was a bad person.

      • amy

        Very often, the dynamics of psychology will produce results that on the surface will appear exactly the opposite of what behaviour one would except to occur if one was acting in accord with the truth.
        So often people remark, why, if an abused woman was being treated in an abusive harmful, disrespectful, even dangerous and potentially life- threatening manner, would she ‘ keep going back’?
        One of the answers is the ‘ repetition compulsion’ dymamic which one is so influenced and driven by, most likely unconsciously.
        The reason why Freud was considered one of the most influential people of the last century, was because he brought to attention the fact that actually people are FAR more influenced by the unconscious than the unconscious. This explains a lot of Arias’s counter- intuitive behaviour.
        Also, if a child grew up not experiencing her parents ( in a girl’s case, especially her father), in adult life she will choose a love interest that in many ways will act the exact opposite as an allie would. Again, this is illustrative of the repetition compulsion to try to fix the past, and undo it, by trying to convert the actions of an ‘ enemy’ into a person that she can trust.
        The other major dynamic that comes into play, is the coping skill of being positive, upbeat, denail of the negative, because a personthinks that by not focusing on the negative she can change the nature of a situation, and influence it, by giving too much credence to the notion that if one only focuses ond and believes in the positive, she can influence reality and create the outcome and life she desires.
        Arias’s great interest in the philosophy espoused in th book ” The Secret”, with its message that if one ONLY focuses on the positive, like will attract like and only good outcomes will result if you emphasize the positive enough ( and if good outcomes don’ t result, it is only because the person is not faithful enough, or trying hard enough, to uphold the philosophy of the magical power of positive thinking.

        • amy

          I think that this belief in the magical power of positive thinking explains why Jodi said with confidence and surety, ” Mark my words, I will not be convicted”. I don’ t think her statement was an indicator of arrogance, but an attempt at following the philosophy of positive thinking.
          Also, the bizarre behaviour of doing the cartwheel may have to with her belief in the power of positive attitude.
          This emphasis on the positive may also have to do with her naiveness in trusting interviewers and doing interviews, and not being forceful, vocal, insistent enoug__ not portraying a powerful outcry insisting instent and persuasive enough to convince people by her demeanor, tone, and affect, that she was truely abused and endangered.
          Personally, I consider the book ” The Secret” to be harmful in many ways with its simplistic emphasis on half- truths which not only distort the nature of reality, but accentuate the propensity for adherents of the philosophy to act, cope and respond to situations that by their insufficent response, will only result in detrimental outcomes in their own life.
          Look at the disastrous endorsement of the tenets promoted in the book resulted in;
          one of the authors of the book so flagrantly ignored the claims of extreme distress and fear for their health, not to mention also their extreme suffering due to the author’ action of a sort of shaming and berating people to ‘ tough it out’ , exert mind over matter, believe sufficiently in the positive, that by the author’s actions and dismisal of the warning signs,and his simplistic adherence to the powerof positive thinking, that at least three DEATHS RESULTED due to his unsophisticated understanding of psychology.
          Such undue

          • amy

            emphasis upon the positive causes a harmful affect in people,s psyche, and further exacerbates repression and other methods the psyche uses to compensate and maintain balance.
            Those people who died in the sweat lodge never would have died were itnot for this adherence to half- truths.

          • amy

            Again, I want to stress that I am not a detractor of Travis, I do not think he was a bad person, I do not think he deserved to die, and I don’ think he necessarily ever abused a woman before Arias does not mean Arias is to blame.
            In a real sense Travis does not serve blame because the behaviour that I believed he acted out was due to the influence of an endless chain of factors involving his parents, their parents( ( most likely) and on and on adinfinitum.
            Travis said on his blog that he was physically beatenmany times inhis childhood.
            Like Jodi, I think Travis, withentirely good and sincere intentions, gave far, far, too much credence to the power of positive thinking. I think that only further increased the repression of horrific experiences in his upbringing. The more repression there is, the more of a war will go on within the psyche until at some point the damn will break; that is what I believe happened to Travis. I believe he was unconsciously repressing powerful, powerful forces that eventually unleashed themselves.
            That sort of violence doe NOT make him a bad person; it is evidence that he was in need of healing and empathy. No person decides out of a vacuum to act violence or abusive.
            Neither is a vilent or abusive person a ‘ monster’ like poular psycholgy, and shallow pronouncements by the media and B grade movies portayal of domestic violence. Along with the trendy, reductive, simplistic, and to my mind in vogue slogans of’ zero tolerance’, this kind of immature understanding of psycholgy and behaviour not only is not helpful, but it is harmful.

          • amy

            I believe that Arias’s unconscious dynamics, fit into Travis’s unconscious dynamics like a key into a lock. Both deserve empathy and understanding.
            While I do believe that Jodi did NOT act out of premeditation, and I DO think she was acting out of self- defense, I do not believe that Travis acted in a premeditated way out of an attitude of entitlement to be violent, nor out of a monstrous cold indifference.
            I truly believe he acted out of unconscious repressed forces taking over his conscious control and ability to cope.
            As I do believe Arias accidentally shot Travis in the hesd when he was lunging at him, and as I do believe that the bullet only very superficially wounded him, so not only was Travis’s life not endangered, if he was incapacitated, it was only momentarily.

          • amy

            Imagine the effects on Travis, and the inevitable unleashing of unconscious forces that were buried by repression– imagine how overwhelmingly thses forces with the buried experiences of having been repeatedly beaten, would suddenly so overwhelm him, that even though he was not lierally in fear for his life, a life time of having been in fear for his life, would so extremely unleash this overpowering tide that ztravis would have no choice but to act unconsciously, impulsively and attack with a lethal intent.
            Again, Travis is not to blame; when the unconscious takes over, the conscious is truly powerless over its dominating effects.
            Years of simplistic popular political ideologies and agendas, insufficient understanding, and popularization by the media and vested interest into promulgating a simplistic black and white, right or wrong, victim/ perpetrator, daimsel in dixtress / monster dynamic that hss so influenced the culture that we see in commentary on web sites, both in expressions pro and con, the explosive, condemning, vitriolic, and avoidance of real discussion, but emphssis on debate( debate never resolves anything– it is only a contest of wills) into an outright kind of war between both sides.
            N ot only is this war in the forum commentary and social media harming everyone, it is failing to heal people and loved ones on both sides of the domestic violence phenomenon. Decades of commentary popularized by a shallow media who will gain more by sensationalizing, portraying things as back and white, evil against goodness– all of this done for not just profit, but for certain members of the media to rationalize their own jealous, catty tendencies, and seire to target someone to hate, is having the horrible effect of creating a similar war against people interested in this case.

          • amy

            As to the protests against and claims that numerous knife wounds and a shot prove malice, wickedness, vindictiveness, revenge, and overpowering an innocent person into a position of helplessness where he can’t fight back against a demon __ on the contrary, the horrific evidence of violence upon the deceased’s body, in fact points to many other things:

          • amy

            •••• The profusion of wounds points to the fact that a much more he,pless, much less stronger, much less capable of fighting, was not only taken over by incredible fear which would make a person react frantically, and chaotically, the profusion of wounds give credence to the fact that Jodi was trying to defend herself since she was so at a disadvantage in her effort to defend herself, that of necessity she had to make numerous and increasingly more potentially lethal attempts so she could survive by attemting to defend herself.

          • amy

            On the contrary, if a deceased body had far less wounds it would prove that not only was the attacker at a far greater disadvantage, was not only not stronger/ and or more not experienced at fighting/ killing, and had
            less acess to a simpler means of killing [ no matter what side one is on, it is simply preposterous to believe that Arias, who as a diminutive, slightly built woman is at an extreme disadvantage and is highly unlikely to win if she decides to attack a nan with a knife.
            Even if the man was at a disadvantage because he was surprised and in the shower ( I DON' T believe at all that the knife attack took place in the shower), any man, especially Travis who describes himself on his own MySpace page as a tr- athlete, a weight lifter, a person interested in wrestling and kick boxing - surely, after the first knife wound( which began on the back in the form of several somewhat shallow slashes, increased to a more frantic constellation of__ even described by the medical examiner as ' shallow' , then proceeding AFTERWARDS in sucession to the progressively more lethal stabbing [ since Jodi of necessity needed to be more forceful and quicker in her need to survive]

          • amy

            [I meant to write that ( it is preposterous to believe that a) slightly built woman is NOT at a disadvantge]
            •••• because my cursor does not work right, and I can not edit properly, please note that sometimes I make mistakes in my writing, so if I state something in a way that seems to imply that I am against Arias, realize that that is a mistake in my typing, and pleaze know that I absolutely DO belive Arias acted in self – defense.

          • amy

            Getting back to the discussion of the way the stsb marks looked, one of the reasons I believe Arias is because the pattern of slashes and wounds on the back which increase in severity, and become FAR more severe onthe front of the body __ this leads me to believe that that a scenario like perhaps Travis trying to choke Arias was occurring.

          • amy

            As far as the notion of premeditation goes here are some reasons I disagree with it:
            not only that Arias new at leasts months in advance that she was not going to Cancun, the woman going to Cancun was NOT romantically interested in Travis.
            Also, Jodi is quite a sophisticated, liberal, modern, not old fashioned type of women, who realized and accepted the idea that especially young adults needed to ‘ play the field, to explore other people, and grow into an ubderstanding of what ultimately would determine who a person would want to settle down with
            Even Arias’s more daring, less conventional sexual behaviour is in alignment with the idea that she is a modern woman, more liberal and acceptant of divergent and less traditional choices. She was able to integrate and accept the notions of being intimate with men who were not soley interested in her.

          • amy

            Also, this acceptance of the less traditional, and evidence of her great interest in spirituality is on her website page which lists thenumeroous books, mostly spiritual that she has read.
            Many of those books espouse a liberal philosophy that emphasizes that all people and all of life is inextricably interlated to each other. These books emphasize an advocacy of the ‘we’ over the ‘ I ‘.
            Many of the books she has read are quite erudite in their philosophy and understanding of human nature.
            I f you examine the subject matter contained in these books, and if you examine the lists of interests Arias professes to have, you will likely see that Arias is not of a traditional, narrow minded conservative nature, but is quite liberal, quite open minded and sophisticated, quite interexted in understanding the depths and dymamics of human nature.

          • amy

            Also, Arias’s interest in visual art points to qualities of sensitivity, appreciation of what is ( the more you appreciate reality by beholding it and becoming attuned to it, the deeper you know reality, and the deeper one’s self awareness becomes.
            It is not a matter of simply drawing pretty pictures.
            Another thing noteworthy of interest, is that Arias’s art work contains no violence, no angryness, no depictions of rage, brutality, destruction, mockery or belittlement, no portrayals of nor subject matter that focuses on opposition to something, problematic gender issues, anger with men etc,___ they all point to a person of a gentle, sensitive, open, refined nature.

          • amy

            My emphasizing her artistic expressions and her interests is not irrelevant. Such things reveal a lot about a person.
            How oftentimes do we hear news accounts of drawings, photographs, illustrations, carttoons, caricstues created by a violent criminal, and finf books, computer evidence, cd’s, etc. that obviously indicate a violent, rageful, revenge- seeking, malicious, disturbed, pathological nature.
            None of that is the case with Arias; it is quite the contrary.

          • amy

            Getting back to the notion of premeditation and the caricaturization of Arias’s stabbing as ‘ heinous, wicked, and cruel’, it is my belief that wickedness and premeditation is far more often found in scenarios that result in death where the physical evidence shows the handiwork of a person who acts in a very efficient, uncomplicated, more’ clean and neat’ way than the nature of the wounds Arias inflicted.
            Killings that appear neater, cleaner, simpler and less heinous than the death caused by Arias’s knife wounds, ___ are far, far more often due to the nature of people who are cold, calculating, insensitive, unselfaware, and psychologically armored against feeling.
            Such people are not bothered by killing. It is no big deal to them. They are as cool as a cucumber. Killing is easy for them ; it is no more significant or emotion laden to them than buying an hamburger at the drive through.
            It is these kind of neat and clean killings that are far likelier the indicators of true premeditation.
            How often have we seen on t.v. crime show documentaries etc., the many many murder cases involving premeditation where the motive was money? The killings were most often done in clean and neat ways, with less evidence of complication, chaos , and extremity , and turmoil present.
            Although such deaths appear less horrific, and done by people who are not easily called evil, my understanding of life is that true evil and the perpetrators of it, are far less banal, and far less indicative of being emotionbased.
            True banality is quite emotionless; life is less significant to them. killing is no big deal.
            Look at the killings mob members commit, the drive by shootings of gang members_ those killings are far cleaner and neat. There is no indication of real feeling or passion at all, no real signs of the killing being committed by a person overwrought by fear, anguish, unleashed unconscious repression.
            Such killings appear less horrific because to the perpetrators they are ” just doing business”.
            T o me, true evil is banality.

          • amy

            I also want to say that as far as I understand it, Travis may have had a gun because in the state he lived, it was not required that one register a gun.( as far as I know).
            Also, in regard to thebloody hand print, the ” Jodi Arias is Innocent Site” claims to have evidence of documentation that NO bloody hand print ever existed. People can check their research.
            Also, since Travis’s dog remained in his home for FIVE days before Travis’s body was found, is it not quite peculiar that Travis’s dog did not express many indications of distress. A dog has a far, far keener sense of smell than humans, and as pet owners know, pets don’ t enjoy being separated from their owner, and they whimper and groan, are despondent and gloomy, not to mention that they will inevitably look for their owner and try to find their owner, especially if they sense he is in the house, and quite possibly, the animal’s keen sense of smell permits this.

          • amy

            In closing I want to say that while I truly feel bad for Travis, his family, and the feelings and sincere intentions of his supporters, I must speak up for a woman who I believe truly acted in self- defense.
            In truth Arias is quite helpless and defenseless, and powerless.
            People accuse her of having too much power and being manipulative, but the woman was in jail for five years before she went to trial. She had no means of making bail.
            Also it is against the principles of our constitution and the belief in innocence until proven guilty to keep someone imprisoned for five years before they even went to trial an were convicted.
            She has no choice but to try to defend herself and try to get the word out that she acted in self defense. If she doesn’t try to help herself, who will?
            It is not the fault of Arias that the cost of her defense is high; that is part of the way the legal system operates.
            The prosecutor Martinez unjustly made it a capital case because even if he lost, upping the ante, would better ensure that Arias would get a more severe penalty than otherwise. This is no different than a transaction of haggling between a buyer and a seller where the seeler states a higher price with the realization that he is more able to get what he wants if he gives the illusion that he is compromising with the buyer.

          • amy

            Tons of news stories on the internet report the high cost of her defense, and many fault her for the high cost of the defense yet Martinez__ who is a member of the legal establishment__ and has far more resources, power and money at his disposal than Arias does.
            MARTINEZ REFUSES TO DISCLOSE HOW MUCH THE PROSECUTION HAS SPENT.
            Not onlyis this unethical and possibly ilegal( bur Martinez can get a round the issue by citing a rationalization which creates a signifcant enough technicality to hide ,behind)

          • amy

            I believe justice means the truth, not revenge. I think that the death penalty is wrong and nothing more than killing itself which is rationalized and explained away by sanitized theories which serve to disguise its true nature.
            Even if Arias is guilty, I do not believe Travis would want Jodi killed.

            I am not as informed about the abundant details and minutiae and evidence at the case. I am inno way an expert on subjects that would shed light on the case, and I certainly am not well equipped to debate( but debate too often is a contest and less often conducive to a sincere cooperation of opposing sides to resolve something).

            I just can not sit back and not speak up for a defenceless woman who I believe is innocent because she acted out of self defense.
            Many people are afraid to speak up for this woman.

          • amy

            The outpouring of hatred toward her in all types of media is tremendous and daunting, and I myself have certainly felt intimidated by it, but I know in my heart I need to speak out for this woman.
            I would hope that someone would speak out for me if I was innocent, defenseless, and wrongly convicted.
            Dissenting voices deterred by powerful forces like an enormous part of society castigating and labeling anyone who speaks up for her is a tremedous deterrent indeed, and the best way of conquering is by enforcing silence as a weapon.
            So I am trying to muster the courage to speak up.
            Perhaps many will consider my postings as too lengthy and too numerous, but I am simply trying to do what I think a human being should do.

          • amy

            P.S.!: I forgot to mention the trauma/ memory issue. A tremendous amount of scholarship is available on this subject, and it is verified by science.
            During an horrific, traumatic event, certain capacities and functions of the mind can increase or decrease.
            After a traumatic a event a person may still be able to think and perform logically and rational while at the same time be so flooded and overwhelmed by fear, anxiety, etc., that even though certain parts of the brain can operate as a person with access to all of their normal facultirs woul, still, simultaneously they are hardly aware of what is going on.
            Perhaps these are poor and insufficiently related, examples, but think of how a sleep walker might be able to cook himself bacon and eggs, go back to bed and remember nothing when he wakes up.
            Think of how often while one is driving, although one is all the while thinking, making the necessary decisions, performing adequately, consider how often it is the case that the driver remembers nothing at all of what he had seen along the way, even though his eyes were open.
            Think about how a person sitting extremely high up in a stadium while watching a concert, is so beset by anxiety, that while fully aware of what is happening during the concert, can barely remember what happened afterward.u

            After a traumatic event, even though a person may be able to think and act logically for awhile, after time the forces of the psyche which need to protect the person, ( a person can only bear so much),
            will begin to do their work by eliminating from conscious memoray what is too horrible to recall. Through defense mechanisms like repression, displacement, splitting, compartmentalizing, and often fragmentation, the psyche will do what has to be done to protect the person from knowledge they can not bear.
            So, it certainly is true that a person can lose memory in part or completely of events that happened at a particular time.
            A person may be able to recall some things, but not others, because what she can recall is not as laden with emotion and not as trauma- inducing.
            Consider the mundane, night after night occurence of dreams. In large parts dreams consists of symbolic images which allow the psyche to ‘ vent’ and release, somehow ‘ reflect upon, and integrate material that can not be processed in waking hours, sometimes due to the person’ s defense mechanisms that allow only certain perceptions of reality to enter into them.
            T o a large extent, people dream because for various reasons they are unable to consciously be aware of or assimilate certain facts.
            In large part this is why dreams appear so weird and hard to decipher. They work by creating a unique symbolic language that, while able to express what might not be able to be consciously known , is, because the contents are disguised, able to get their message across despite censoring mechanisms of the higher consciousness. If a person starts to become too aware of the actual meaning of the necessarily disguised dream contents, the person will suddenly wake up because the psyche knows the person can not consciously bear and integrate the unconscious knowledge.
            Consider also, how easily dreams escape memory, how elusive they are to memory, and vanish so quickly upon waking, even though all the while while we were sleeping and dreaming some aspect of us was conscious of what was going on, and some aspect of us was performing actions, albeit in an unreal world.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Oh my goodness, Amy…stop doin’ Meth. Your rant is ridiculous.!!

          • takawalk

            She lost me on the first post, congrats for being able to read thru it all.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Actually, I got so bored, I kinda cheated a little. I am quite tired, but will pick up here tomorrow, with my morning coffee and toast. I just let the Meatballs know there is ‘fresh meat’ to be had. They will make quick work of these minions. Good to see you, my friend. G’night. Wolf

          • justifiedx3

            Another example of a brain on drugs. Ignorance feels extremely blissful.

          • Chiron

            Smoke dope… it’s you’re only hope. And it involves far less typing.

          • amy

            (I meant the truly wicked killers…..the perpetrators of it, are far MORE banal)
            I might not have adequately expressed the association of banality with true wickedness. I am referring to Hannah Arendt’s quote on the banality of evil.

          • Chiron

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          • TrialJunky

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          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            You’re really out of good arguments, are you?
            If you know you’re wrong, just admit it!
            You were obviously proven dead wrong by Amy!

          • wolfsden6lynn

            OMG!!! Talk about a METH RAVE!!!

          • Aristocles

            Bath salts? Nitrous oxide?

          • takawalk

            If I took the time to read all of it maybe there is logic in it, my guess is NOT.

          • Ramona ThePest

            WHAT THE ACTUAL…

          • wolfsden6lynn

            The first stabs came when she had him sit on the floor of the shower.
            She NEVER expected him to LEAVE the shower, or fight so hard to save his won life. That’s the reason this PREmeditated murder was not ‘neat and tidy’.

          • Aristocles

            Tell me more, please…

          • Aristocles

            This is too much and flag-worthy spam.

            Just write it all out honey and send it to the amazon.com self-publishing people.

          • Ramona ThePest

            Are you alone? Is it meth? What? I give up.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            LMAO!!!

          • amy

            Because I have so many problems with my cursor, and I can’ t edit, I need to poni out that I confused who and what I was referencing.
            Where is says ” On the contray, if a deceased body has far less wounds, it would prove that not only was the attacker at a FAR GREATER aDVaNTADGE THAN ARIAS etc…..
            There are some mistakes I made in the paragraph by putting in qualifiers like not, more, less, grezter, etc,, because I forgot who and what I was referencing because I can not scroll up and down to check what I wrote.
            Again, every statement, aspect of it, and qualifier in it is meant to completly support my view that Arias was acting in self defense, and was at a disadvantage in every way.
            I’m so annoyed and dismayed that I put in the wrong attributions that came off as if I was arguing against Arias. ALL OF the attributions and stztements were meznt to be written as indicating Arias was innocent, and Arias was at a disadvantage. Since I can’t edit because of my cursor, mabe later when I have time, I’ll entirely rewrite that section the way I meant to write it. ( Sorry to be annoying or long- winded; trust me, it annoys me more.)

          • Ramona ThePest

            Do I need to order you a pizza, or the ambulance, perhaps?

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Look…since WHEN does stab wounds to the BACK constitute ‘self defense’? And she didn’t slash his throat UNTIL he had made it ALL the way down the hall, and collapsed. The evidence PROVES THIS!! Remember that photo of the HUGE pool of blood, and all her bloody footprints on the carpet?? This ALONE, makes any SENSIBLE person want to PUKE!! She is a deranged demon!!
            And do you think she was ‘quiet’ during TA’s last moments on this earth? NOPE! I’m sure she was kicking him (likes to do that), and screaming obscenities and vulgarities. NICE GIRL?!?!?
            N*O*P*E.!!! NOT EVEN.!!!!

          • amy

            In at least a few posts on this forum, I explained why I believe the back wounds indicated self defense.

          • Aristocles

            Are you snorting bath salts?

          • Ramona ThePest

            “I’m going off the rails on a crazy train,
            I’m going off the rails on a crazy train…”

          • Ramona ThePest

            IS THIS A FILIBUSTER?

            DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS?

          • amy

            I could easily check by looking it up on the internet, but off the top of my head, I’ ll say that is has something to do with a polician stalling, or coming up with some pretext for interfering with and/ or trying to prevent a bill from being passed. Something like that, I think.

          • amy

            ( I’m referring to the sweat- lodge deaths.)

          • Aristocles

            To the third power. It must be something good.

      • Aristocles

        No, really, what are you on?

        • takawalk

          That is a good question, but whatever it is I don’t want any.

    • keepsitrealx10

      Jodi used sex to get Travis. Never did she say no let’s not go there and funny how Travis told his friends the only interest she has is sex. None stop sex! She would even do things like kiss his neck inappropriately while he was in a group talking to friends. Sort of like a buck marking his territory she was marking her property.

  • Chiron

    Well to all those concerned Amys’, and it appears that there is an entire herd of them clip-clopping through the comments section here today. The entire matter could be settled quickly by tossing Hodi into a nice deep pond. If she floats she’s guilty and will be pulled ashore and hung, if she sinks she’s guilty and she drowns. It all the same to me as justice will finally be done.

  • Ramblin2

    Chiron, I must say you have the patience of Job. I skipped all of Amy’s posts. When I saw the first lengthy one and it kept going, I knew it was trouble. Anyone posting that much in one fell swoop tells me there’s something amiss about the person. But thank God we there is freedom of speech. Not so crazy about someone so desperately hawking their ware but I can ignore the insanity and hope they get good mental health.

    • Chiron

      I couldn’t sleep last night so I thought I take in some light comedy. Didn’t help.

  • keepsitrealx10

    Forget about it!!! Sorry Amy but not interested in reading pages and pages of your thoughts, makes me think several things. Is she a wanna B professor, or still in school practicing for a paper, a Doc wanna be with no patients, or just simply hoping to get an audience and recognition? Not sure as again not reading your mini book here. But from the first few lines I can tell you Jodi said her childhood was ideal until she needed it to be otherwise. Let’s just say it wasn’t that is no excuse for murder. This is the blame it on someone else society as Jodi has certainly done, but she made choices, choices that have consequences.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Keep!! Hiya! Skip ‘Amy’s thread’…so much Meth induced BS.!! There are MORE down there! ;)

      • keepsitrealx10

        Truth is we don’t need to complicate things to cover up the truth or to paint the truth as something other than what it is. Jodi wanted Travis used sex to get him but didn’t realize what is the norm through the centuries relationships that last are not built on possessuviness nor sex. She is a sociopath that saw him as her property. He told her he was dating other women, wanted to end the relationship, and was going to Cancun with another woman. This woman Jodi clearly thought was the woman he would marry as per the police interviews. She was visablly surprised to discover they were just friends. She planned it, she murdered him and two years later called it self defense. That simple. Regardless of how she plays the system or the supporters that want a different truth she will pay for her crime and it just is not Travis’ fault nor her patents fault. She made the choice.

        • wolfsden6lynn

          Yes she did make the choice. To slaughter an Innocent man.
          NOTE TO JODI’S MINIONS: (and yes, you are brainless)…..
          Out of her THREE ..LIES re TA’s death, she did NOT decide on the Self Defense ‘defense’ until Aug. 16, 2011. WHY? Because to get her FORGED ‘pedo’ letters admitted…she HAD to DUMP the ‘ninja’ lie.
          She worked SO very hard on those letters..and saw THEM as her ‘key to freedom’.
          DO you minions READ??..COMPREHEND??..have ANY CLUE at ALL?
          Here is a link….read it and WEEP: Read it ALL…a/h’s.!! Wolf
          http://www.docstoc.com/docs/109828551/Jodi-Arias-Court-Documents

          • wolfsden6lynn

            P.S: You little brainless minions…if you don’t know HOW to navigate Court Documents…just ask…we will SHOW you HOW!!
            READ ALL 40 PAGES!! Wolf

      • Ramona ThePest

        It’s a filibuster for crying out loud.

    • amy

      I can’t blame you if you don’ t feellike reading my long posts. They are long because that ishow long it requires for me to say what I want to say.

      • takawalk

        It amazes me that this was such a long trail and that some can still jump through all the loops necessary to make a effort to defend “stabbys” actions. It was over for me when the simple logistics of the crime were revealed. How dead does someone have to be? This was way beyond self defense.
        If the roles were reversed and Travis had done this to Jodi, would you be defending Travis? I think many will understand this statement. It is not what you go through in life that you are responsible for, it is how you react to it.

  • keepsitrealx10

    Attention the conversation starts after the Amy posts just keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling down you will find it!

    • wolfsden6lynn

      ROFLMAO!! I LOVE the way you open up a ‘can of whoop ass’!!
      Makes my day!! Wolf

      • keepsitrealx10

        We are the Meatballs and this is how we roll!

        • wolfsden6lynn

          Minions? When you hit ‘um with ‘facts and evidence’…..
          they kinda go all ‘limp’. They are NO MATCH for us! ;)

        • Ramona ThePest

          I am the tofu meatball. Hear me roar.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Te-ha-ha-ha! Works for me!! Luv ya! ;)

    • amy

      ( Yes, I apologize for being so lengthy, butu everyone wouldn’ t still be dis ussing it if there wasn’t a lottosay about it.)

      • Ramona ThePest

        Is that word spacing the literary equivalent of stuttering? Just wondering if you were maybe getting tired yet.

        • amy

          I’m not sure what you mean by ‘ word spacing’, but I write on a Nook where not only is the key board so small that when I type ,when I press letters by fingers accidently touch the keys next to it.
          I have a lot of books on my memory card and I have so many open that I think that fact is what causes me problems writing on Disqus.
          I assume that is why it slows down my typing ( plus this key board is so sensitive to the touch thst spaces will be created that I don ‘t want there.
          Also, because the open stuff on my memory card makes it hard for me to scroll up and down, or evn getthe cursor back to or where it needs to go, not only canI not go bak and edit , even when I press the edit button, but too often, the cursor will go in the wrong place and even cause me to loose alot of what I’ve wriite, and when I try to go back to where zi want zi can’t and the cursor puts words in places that interrupt what I already wrote.
          Since I can ‘t scroll up and down easily, and the sensitive key board lessons my control over my intentions, I often don’t things up into paragraphs.
          So not only do I have a lot of typs and spelling mistakes, but most importantly I have learned that I am better of posting, thenadding replies to my own posts, so that I don ‘t lose what I sped time writing, which is beyond maddening, so I prefer to at least post something full of mistakes, rather than lose all I wrote.
          Hopefully I’ll learn how to solve the problem; it is probably easy to solve but right now I don’ t know how.
          ( you can se all the mistakes I made here_ but it is usually impossible for me to go back and fix it because I can’ t scroll up and down.

  • wolfsden6lynn

    Remember, if you appreciate the fact that ZACH, himself, is keeping up on the info for this case….click that little ‘Favorite’ star thingy. Wolf

    • keepsitrealx10

      Found it and clicked it. Whoop! Whoop!

  • keepsitrealx10

    Amy I noticed you ended your dissertation on dreams, what comfort do you have for Travis’ brother and the nightmares he now has thanks to Princess Jodi? If we become a society that blames everyone for what we do and claims Mom or Dad or both were mean to us we will become a lawless society. I also see that popping a child with a spoon to teach them right from wrong is now considered abuse. We have become a society that believes disciplining a child is abuse, so a child is never held accountable and never learns right from wrong. When Jodi patents busted her for the pot she started to hate them and left. She behaved as a spoiled child that would not accept authority or accountability for her actions. It continues today. So blame the parents for her adult choices. Blame the parents for a child caught stealing and nothing is done about it and the child grows up to be a thief.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Well, she was an adult when she committed this slaughter. PREmeditaded this slaughter. Her parents certainly taught her the difference between ‘right and wrong’.
      She CHOSE to IGNORE this.
      Ended up a LIAR…a CHEAT…and a THIEF, for starters.
      Remember the wedding ring TA bought (for someone else) that was stolen? His HANDwritten journals..were STOLEN.
      THEN, on top of being (by choice) a LIAR, CHEAT and THIEF…she decides to become a REMORSELESS, SLAUGHTERING, BLOODTHIRSTY MURDERESS…by CHOICE.

      • amy

        Obviously you have a right to form your conclusions. I believed she acted in self defense, and although that act obviously looked like horrific slaughter, I believe it looked that waybecause that degree of ‘ attack ‘ was what was required to defend herself.
        Again, I am not against Travis, and I feelbad for his family. I do notthink Travis was a bad person; in fact part of the reason I focused on the parent issue was actually to DEFEND Travis, by declaring that he was not a bad person, but was unavoidably acting out of harmful, repressed incidents in his child hood. An his parents, although they were dysfunctional, likwise must have experienced similar dysfuntion and their parents, back intime.
        I only focused on parents because most oftenthey have the most influence on a child.

        • wolfsden6lynn

          Listen to me. I was both sexually AND physically abused by my own father…THEN brutally abused by several Step-dads. My mom not only allowed this..but ENCOURAGED it! Of COURSE I, in turn, married an abuser. We had a business together, property, assets, and two infants. Jodi had NO ties to Travis! NONE! Did I stay? NO! Did I kill him? NO! I walked the eff away! Jodi could have done the same.

          • amy

            I am sorry that you endured such horrible abuse, neglect, betrayal, and suffering.
            Of course it makes sense that you married someone who was abusive. For you it aparently was the best alternative to walk away, and you did it despite major factors and ties that made it difficult to walk away.
            I think Jodi, and many like her, on the surface seem to have no ties, especially the kind of ties that you have, however she and many others, I believe, have profound, deep rooted, psychological issues, needs and dynamics that truly do make such people really unable to leave the person. The obstacles may not seem to exist on that outside, but internally, a person’s need for the other person may be such an enormous psychological need that the person feels such a strong bond__ and because of profound unconscious teasons she truly actually NEEDS that bond.
            Not only does she or people like her, so much need that bond, even extreme abuse will not be enough of a deterrent to walk away. They will want to stay no matter what; but just because they have no desire to leave does not mean they are not abused, nor does it mean that their lives are not in danger.
            Their need for a true bond is so fundamental to their psyche, that even threats to their life, even various degrees of attempts to nearly kill them, will still not cause them to want to leave_ they need that bond so much.
            I will cite two examples for you. I detest Dr. Phil, however his show was often interesting. One time he had a female guest, who after she was literally stabbed( I would have to research to find out for sure; she was either or both stabbed, and blinded in one eyeI might be wrong about the eye, but the attack against her was so, so extreme, yet she wanted to stay with her partner.
            Yes, it can likely be said that there is something deeply wrong with these people__ for certain there is something in their nature that is unhealthy, pathological.
            The second example I will give you is actually from my own life.
            My parents are no longer alive, but when they were first married, my father beat my mother severely, tied her up, put her in a bathtub, and filled it with water so he could drown her. For whatever reason, he changed his mind.
            When he had her in the bathtub, it might have been the case that she was pregnant with me and my twin sister. If she was, my father certainly was aware of it.

          • amy

            My mother never reported my father to the police. She never left him, and stayed married to him until she died in her mid- fifties.
            Also, when my mother was first married, when she was seven or eight months pregnant, my father pushed my mother down the basement steps.
            Due to the fall, my mother’s water broke, and my sister and I were born prematurely, weighing around three pounds apiece. My sister and I spent the first one or two months of our life in an incubator.
            My father was such a pathologically narcissistic person, that although i don’t know absolutely, I can pretty much assume he and my mother almost never visited us when we were in the incubator. My father only cared about himself, totally dominated my mother, and resented anything that was not about him.
            Of course my mother was mentally unheathy, even pathologically so. She never had my father arrested for pushing her down the steps while she was pregnant.
            It was a different era, and no hospital members even thought to question anything.
            I assure you that the reason my mother stayed with my father was NOT because she had children or a house with him, nor was it because she was worried about the financial and other difficulies that would beset a single mother.
            I assure you, I know it is one hundred percent the case, that my mother stayed with my father because she had such a profound need to continue to keep a deep bond with him; her psyche, her psychological needs and dynamics were inextricably bound with his.

          • amy

            Of course, that bond could never be construed as an healthy, fulfilling respectful bond with my mother; it was a deeply pathological bond.
            People may argue that she, or other people could simply need and choose another person who would love them care for them and bond with them, but my mother and people like her were/ are, incapable of that. For whatever reason, they have a deep – seated, psychological need to not only have a bond with any person__ for unconscious, pathological reasons, they NEED a bond with a person who is pathological, abusive, cruel, even life- threatening individual.
            Such people are not psychologically healthy enough, often from being so profoundly neglected, rejected, and unbonded with their parents, that later in life they so vitally need that bond they never had, that

            they literally are not capable of choosing nor not choosing to leave.
            They have so little autonomy because they were never able to fully exist.

          • amy

            Again, I want to emphasize that such people need a pathological bond.
            My mother never documented any of the abuse my father perpetrated on her over the years.
            I am sure my mother never told her family, who had psychological issues themselves and would never have been nourishing or comforting to my mother anyway.
            My mother only had a couple of aquaintances in life, and she never told them.
            She told my sister and I practically nothing, not because she wanted to protect us, nor because she didn’ t want us to think badly of our father, but because she was so psychologically unhealthy andso fundamentally lacking the inner resources made possible by having adequate bonds, connection, and nourishing in her infant years.
            Whatever the reasons for, I belive Jodi Arias had a pathological need for a pathological bond.
            I am not blaming anyone; there is so much suffering, so much cruelty, and so many people who have unmet needs that some people are incapable of walking away.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I am sorry you went through that.
            There is one thing that ALL abused women share…and that is ‘SHAME’. Jodi had NONE, NONE, NONE of that.

          • amy

            Thank you.

          • amy

            I am not saying that Jodi had no shame, but I’ m offerring the theory that if a person acts as if they have no shame, even acts in an outrageously shameless way, it could be because they are trying to distance themselves from the enormous shame they unconsciously feel.
            It might be because they are trying to compensate for the enormous shame they have repressed because they can’ t bear to be consciously aware of it.

        • wolfsden6lynn

          And P.S: Have I EVER laid a hand on either one of my children?
          NOPE…maybe just a quick swat on the butt, with my hand, when they were little, to get their attention. That’s ALL.

        • Ramblin2

          After the 4th or 5th stab wound (never mind the 27ht!) or the gun shot to his head, how much defense did she really need?

          • amy

            Arias had said Travis choked her( I believe until she was unconscious, but I might be wrong.)
            She said he lunged after her, briefly tackled her, and ran after her. Since she said she had been choked by him in thepast, she naturally feared it would happen again, so in an effort to protect herself ( he could easily over power her if she tried tun to the house exit where she would have to pause long enough to open the door)

          • amy

            She ran to get Travis’s gun to try to get him to stop. She said he lunged at her, trying to tackle her. She said the gun actually went off accidentally.
            From what I have read, the gun entered his sinus cavity, and did NOT penetrate the brain.
            I read that if he was incapacitated, it was only very briefly, if he was incapacitated at all.
            Jodi would not have tried to escape, because the dynamic of the situation change, and because she loved Travis she was concerned about whet

          • amy

            about whether he was o.k..
            Jodi did not anticipate what would happen next. Travis, even though hi life was not in danger, would naturally have been so overwheled by the gun shot, albeit accidental, and the fact that he wasnearly killed, would have been flooded with so much emotion, fesr, rage, and unconscious long repressed emotions that unconsciously brought to the fore numerous memories of being beaten, etc. ( Also, extreme rage is a way of processing fear) __ that he would be so much further enraged than prior to the gun shot, that he would entirely lose control over himself( growing up he had no control over the bad things that happened to him), so he would be blinded by hisneed to react and process what happened, and so much at the mercy of such powerful forces, he would be in a psychologically diminished capacity to control himself and lashed out at Arias by attempting to kill her. He was taken over by irrational forces.
            I do not believe the stabbing, nor the gun shot, ever took place in the shower.
            The short answer to your question, ” how much defense did she really need?” is as much as it takes to defend oneself from being killed__ and a slight, diminutive woman, inexperienced at fighting, and certainly nowhere near as strong as Travis, woul, if anything, HAVE TO MAKE MANY MORE ATTEMPTS to try to kill an attacker, than say, a strong man who was experienced at fighting.
            Since Travis described himself as a tri- athlete with some experience in wrestling, kick- boxing, and was a weight lifter, had Arias truly premeditated killing Travis, surely she would know she had no chance of winning by going at him with a knife, since he was so much more powerful than her. T o me, this lends credence to the fact that the gunshot came first.
            The widely reported information stating that there were 27 stab wounds is imprecise and inaccurate.
            Actually, on the back, quite a bit of what the media calls wouns are actually a series of closely spaced slashings, deeper than scratches, but not wounds. Then, on another area on the back, there exists a constellation of closely spaced stab wounds, which even the medical examiner describes as ‘ shallow’ . None of the cutting on the back caused by the knife was deep or severe enough to be lethal.
            In great contrast, the wounds on the front of the body became increasingly severe and more lethal, with the slash across the throat.
            There were slash marks on his head, hands and arms.

          • amy

            A woman who isn’ t very strong or adept at fighting, should she intend premeditated murder, would not only know her best chace of success would be surprising someone by stabbing him from behind, she would know that the first stab mustbe made with the most powerful, deepest thrust possible, because not only is that what will most likely enable her to kill the victim, if that initial stab is not successful, the victim, now on high alert, empowered with adrenaline, and a person much stronger and experienced at fighting, would certainly try to wrestle the knife feom the less powerful assailent, and he would probably kill her.
            It is important to note that none of the slashes and wounds on the back are even close to being deep enough to be lethal.
            One of the primary reasons I believe Arias acted in self defence is because of the way the severity of the knife attack begins with a series of, for lack of a better word), slashes, not wounds. This indicates to me that because she loved Travis she did not want to kill hi ; she wanted him to not kill her.
            WhenArias sees that Travis is unrelenting, she knows further force and speed is required; this is evident in theconstellation of SHALLOW wounds on the back. “Shallow” is the way the medical examiner characterized the wounds.

          • amy

            Because the wounds progress in severity in the front of the body, this leads me to believe that a likely scenario was that Travis was trying to choke her. Arias would have had to try to , while face to face with him, or with Travis directly on top of her, to save herself Arias woul have to wrap her arms around his back and stab him in the back in an attempt to get Travis to relent. If one looks at the marks on the back, one can see how plausible this scenario is.
            The much more severe lethal stab marks on the front of Travis in

          • amy

            indicate that Travis was likely leaning back so that he could extend both arms straight to gain a better position and more power to strangle her.
            The frantic, severe wounds and throat slashing on the front of Travis’s body indicate that Jodi knew she must escalate her attacks unless she wanted to die.

          • amy

            There are many documented cases of people who were stabbed many times and still lived.
            A strong, experienced fighter would be far less likely to make several slashes and wounds than a petite, physically weaker person like Arias would, because a more proficient attacker simply WOULD NOT NEED TO USE THE KNIFE MUCH in order to save himself or kill.
            If anyone has not read the article about combative knife fighting found at the web site ” Herrspeightsventures”, please read it.
            The article explains why a peite woman like Arias would, of necessity, need to use the knife

            Many times.
            Again, I apologize for the lengthiness, but in order to make the case for Arias acting in self defense, I have to lay out my argument in detail. many times.

          • escapepa

            So, by your “logic”, Travis is choking Stabby in the bathroom, even though she never testified to that. Then she pulls a knife out of her a** and stabs him in the back? Clearly you know nothing about injuries/medicine. Here’s what happened. She got him naked in the shower and vulnerable. While he’s sitting on the shower floor, she stabs him in the right side of the chest in the vena cava, he stumbles to the sink, blood filling his chest, spits into the sink, she stabs him in the back. He turns to defend himself, thus his defensive wounds, keeps stabbing him down the hall, gets him on all fours, slashes his throat to near decapitation, dragz him into the bathroom and shoots him in the face. Puts him in the shower, washes him and her off, takes the sheets and towels and camera, puts them in the washer and heads out to grind on Ryan Burns. There is no other evidence to support any other story. Are we done here? Perhaps you, journee, joyce, Boston George and Susan can form an I love Stabby fan club. Just don’t do it around us meatballs. We know better.

          • amy

            My opinions, views and actions are solely my own; I can only speak for my self. Please don’ t assume that I necessarily agree or disagree with the opinions of any other person or group.
            I commented on this particular site which is a newspaper article giving very general, neutral information against the case.
            This particular site is a ‘ neutral zone’; it is not aspecific site for Travis supporters only.
            I have nothing against Travis supporte sites, nor against Travis supporters. I have nothing against Travis nor his family.
            I am never intending to personally offend anyone by anything I write.
            Even if one day I find out I was wrong, I am only trying to do what I believe is right now.
            ( referring to the article; I said ‘ against’ when I meant ‘ about’.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I must agree with Takawalk..you have remained ‘respectful’.. while others..who share your views..have NOT. They have even gone so far as to say sh*tty things about our family members. Last June, at hp, a friend of ours lost her little Nephew in a car accident. Bostontru2u posted, ‘Gee. It’s like a morgue around here. Bad things happen to you vultures’.
            She posted that TO ME, after I shared my condolences with Pinx, and that my son was killed the same way. Yes..they were/are disgusting specimens!!…the Jodi supporters we are used to dealing with.
            Thanks. Wolf

          • Chiron

            Throughout history all evil witches have had their minion’s. Some people call them Covens.

            Hodi’s minion’s claim to be named ‘Joyce’ or ‘Bostontru2u’ or ‘James Dean’, etc., etc.. They all revile in the fact that creatures like Hodi can go on stealing oxygen and taking up space on this planet whilst continuing to slime their prey and they’re prey’s family.

            Of course, like the character Gregory Bate of Stephen King’s novels, ‘they are known by other names in other places’.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            You are wise, my dear Chiron. Wolf

          • Chiron

            Wise or drunk. You can’t be both and you can’t be neither.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            But…either way…one can STILL be CORRECT! ;)

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Agreed, pepa! (with everything).
            I believe, between the strengths of each and every Meatball, we have this trial covered with a MAGNIFYING GLASS…down to EVERY detail.
            And THAT’s how we roll.!! ;)

          • escapepa

            Oh, Wolfie, these pea brains are no match for our collective wit and wisdom. No way, no how. They are, however, as annoying as a gang of gnats. Thanks for all your love and support this last week. I know you know that pain and it’s excruciating. But, like a try meatball, you put your arms around me and helped me through despite what feelings were stirred in you. So, here is my gihugic {{{{{{{{{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}}}}}} back to you.. Much love

          • wolfsden6lynn

            And much comfort back to you, Pepa!!
            I consider our group a ‘repository’ of information..each bringing their own strengths together, to form a ‘synergistic’ whole.
            I hope they all feel the same.
            ‘ONE for ALL, and ALL for ONE’!! Wolf

          • wolfsden6lynn

            If somebody shoots you in the face, and by some MIRACLE you find yourself still ALIVE…you’re gonna get the hell outa there!…and go get help.
            She ONLY came up with the ‘linebacker’ crap because she HAD to!!
            She shot TA in the bathroom, (hence ejected shell) POSTMORTEM. She had to have some/any explanation for the DOWNWARD trajectory of the bullet wound.

          • Chiron

            He was a dead man three times over. The shot to the forehead, the deep stab wound to his heart and the final slitting of his throat.

            … and of course she has killed him over and over again every day ever since.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            True…and she LOVED every minute of putting his name and reputation through the mud.
            Did you notice how when the autopsy photos of TA were being shown, she ‘hid’ behind her hair..but NEVER missed looking at the photos?
            Also, she got busted with 18 photos that were considered ‘contraband’. I’d bet they were crime scene photos.

          • Chiron

            Of course she really couldn’t confess because of all that ‘fog, smoke and mirrors’ but I believe that she was screaming out hate and venom with every stab, shot and slash. I’m sure he went out hearing over and over how he had ‘betrayed her’ and how ‘he deserved’ what she was dishing out. Justice Hodi style.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I’m absolutely sure you are correct. I’m sure she was screaming obscenities the whole time! Plus kicking him as he staggered down the hall..and after he fell.
            If she’d kick her own dog..and her mom..you can bet she kicked TA.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Yep. SAD. She is NO stranger to ‘vulgar’ language. Quite conversant, I suspect. And to think..she TRIED to convince the jury SHE deemed TA ‘not husband material’, because he had called her/said the f-word?? Damn, Chi. I guess she ‘forgot’ about her ‘nasty’ texts, emails, and her phone recording..dated May 10. I guess things start to SUCK when you loose track of your lies..because there are SO many.

          • Chiron

            She was suppressing laughter and her self-satisfied smirks all through the trail. Alternating with scribbling and staring at her traced out art, especially when DeMarte was on the stand.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Part of those smirks are what’s known as ‘Duper’s Delight’. It is done when one believes their lies are being believed. They are ‘delighted’. She had a LOT of those while on the stand.

          • TrialJunky

            She was squirming the most when DeMarte testified. You could tell that she was raging because there was a woman in the room “more beautiful” than her. I’m surprised her face didn’t turn green with envy. That’s all Jodi cares about. Having all attention focused on her all the time. She doesn’t care if it’s positive or negative attention, just as long as it’s all about her. I’ve known many narcissistic people, but she really takes the cake.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            By some miracle? All the people who survived gunshots to the head would beg to differ, and there are quite a few such people
            And don’t forget that the gunshot did not penetrate the brain. Horns report said so. Also from the bullet path it is pretty clear that it didn’t have to pass through the brain to travel from his forehead to his left cheek.
            And I think Travis did indeed got really worried about the wound hence his trip to the bathroom where he was surveying the damage in the mirror (the blood spatter pattern on the sink supports it). Then he got really furious and attacked her again. It could have been the fact that the concussion gave him brain damage so he didn’t know what he was doing.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I’m going to assume you are a male. Have you ever been punched, real hard, in the face? So hard, maybe, that it broke your nose..or jaw.. or knocked out some teeth? Can you IMAGINE what being shot in the FACE would feel like? Physically? Let alone, shot in the face by someone you were just intimate with? A ‘rage’. Probably not. More like shock and dis-belief. ‘Rage’? Nope.

          • escapepa

            Ugh, with you people and all this nonsense. You certainly have consumed an awful lot of space on this thread to rehash all of Stabby McEinstien’s lies and manipulations. But, that’s what a good psychopath does, gets you to believe their lies. The people on this thread have followed every second of this trial and know every detail. You have nothing new to bring to the table on this one. Stabby is a convicted premeditated first degree murderer. Nothing can change that fact. I will not dismantle your talking points individually. We have learned over the last year that trying to get people like you to see the actual facts of this case is a moot point. We know whol and what Stabby is. Someday, when you learn to deal in the real world you’ll know it too. WE ARE THE MEATBALLS AND THIS IS HOW WE ROLL!!!

          • amy

            r I know that it is pretty much the case with everything in life, that no one can really convince anyone of anything, and I know I am not telling anyone anything new here, but maybe someone will come across a fact they had not hesrd of.
            I am mainly writing these posts with the idea in minn

          • amy

            idea in mind that someone just casually reading comments from forums, will for whatever reason take aninterest in this case and decide to learn more.
            I believe it’ important to show support for Arias so people know there are people who believe her.

          • keepsitrealx10

            Whoop!!! Whoop!!! So hard to stand down when claims are made opposite the evidence. But you are spot on!

          • Ramblin2

            You’re not answering my question. After the gun shot to his head or even the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th…..knife stab to his body/head/arms/legs/foot, just how much of a threat was he to her after he’d already received all those wounds?

            He choked her, she fell unconscious, he lunged after her are all based on her words and she’s deemed a profound and consummate liar. Yet you believe her? Okay. To each his/her own. But seriously, after a few (not 27 or more) stab wounds and a gun shot to the head, how much of a threat would he have been to her? To me, it throws the “self defense” claim out the window. All those knife wounds and the gun shot to the head seems more like rage. No matter what you call it, it doesn’t change that she killed an unarmed naked man in the shower. I hope she gets LWOP.

          • amy

            I don’t believe the gun shot or knife attack happened in the shower. I DO NOT believe he was affected enough by the gunshot wound to be rendered unable to fight back. There is much evidence to show that not only did the bullet penetrate the sinus cavity where it did no lethal harm, also there is evidence that the bullet never penetrated his brain.
            So there is evidence that shows that if he was incapacitated at all, it would have only been briefly.
            Also, he very much WAS CAPABLE OF ATTACKING OR FIGHTING BACK

            As to your supposition that he would be weakened by even four or five wounds on the back and incapable of fighting, that is not true. There are a series of slashmarks on the back. I argued that they came first since Arias did not want to kill the man she loved ; she just wanted him to relent sohe could live.

          • amy

            As to the severe lethal wounds on the front, it shows that ARIAS HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO INCREASE HER ATTACK BECAUSE TRAVIS WAS
            NOT WEAKENED ENOUGH?
            If anything, adrenaline, and the
            rage inspiring him to kill, along with his desire for self preservation, would empower him so much he likely woudn’t be as distressed as one might think, since the attacks on his backs are shallow; theymight hurt, but they were not deep enough to weaken him.

          • amy

            As to your bringing up the subject of lying, many people would lie if they were in a situation where everything in her life is at stake. And truly_ if she really did act in self defense, she would have just as much reason to lie because she would not be able to trust that anyone would believe her.
            Also, the lying ‘ theme ‘ was an effective, manipulative tactic on Martinez’s part to cause the jury to not believe her by repeatedlytrying to reduce her whole being, and her essence as nothing but a liar.
            Again this was a tactic in a lawyer’s bag of tricks.
            Ironically, if You research Michael Kiefer’s articles in ( I think it is called” The Arizonian”, this investigative reporter gives a good deal of evidence that showed MARTINEZ LIED ABOUT CRUCIAL EVIDENCE IN THE ARIAS CASE; this is not speculation, it is proven and documented.
            Martinez lied and said, for a very long time, that he had no emails, nor texts of conversation between Arias and Travis. Shortly befor the trial, it was found out that he had been withholding evidence, and the defence only received the evidence of concersation right before trial, thus giving them in sufficient time to prepare.
            Reporter Michael Kiefer in an 2013 article, relates how for years Martinez declared that the gun shot came first, then drastically reversed his contention, and claimed

          • amy

            Arias shot Travis last, after he was already dead. ( a rather absurd notion, however you look at it).
            If you research articles by Amanda Chen and Rob Roman, ( on wordpress, I think) , you will find extensive research describing much unsrupulous behaviour, much what could be deemed prosecutorial misconduct, much disapproval by the legal community itself, about the way Martinez goes beyond the boundaries of what is ethical legally.
            Articles by Sandra Webber on her ” Inconvenient Truths” blog, and her twitter account, ” inconvenient truthstv” also report on Martinez’s unscrupulousness.
            So Martinez’s unscrupulous behaviour__ which again is well documented__ casts him as a person who is the last one who should fault Arias for lying.

          • keepsitrealx10

            So he leans on the bathroom sink with his back to her bleeding and she keeps attacking him .

          • JasmineStarlight

            Keeps, boy does she avoid that question, la-la-la, skips right over it.
            scary people out there, no common sense :(

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Why would TA go into a ‘rage’ for her ‘dropping’ a camera a little ways to the ground (after FIRST bouncing on the bath mat) WHEN he didn’t even get p/o’d that she stupidly destroyed the transmission on the BMW?

          • keepsitrealx10

            Amy if he was shot in the head first he would have bled and he did not. Additionally imagine the Kevel of cruelty to shot a man in the head and then attack him with a knife and to sever his throat so bad as yo almost decapitate him. The shot was last per forensics and that was a final take this moment. If you watched the police interviews regarding the woman going to Cancun you would have heard Jodi say she was the woman Travis planned to marry. You have have Aldo seen her surprise to find out they were just friends. If it was self defense and she is locked up why would she need the ninja story and not come firth right away? To save Travis rep…. She did all she could to butcher that in court with claims that had no evidence to support. Face it she has you snowed.

          • keepsitrealx10

            Sorry for the errors spell ck has a mind of it’s own!

          • wolfsden6lynn

            What these people haven’t thought of re the ‘gun shot came first’, is the amount of blood that would have been flowing down into that eye. It would have blinded him!! And instead of getting himself help, after being shot in the face, they think he kept coming? Sheesh!

          • JasmineStarlight

            The shock alone of being hit in the face with a bullet, the pain too….would bring shock. It’s all mute anyway, she shot him at the end of her butcher, just to make sure….he couldn’t talk. Stay away from jury duty.

          • TrialJunky

            Arias also said two masked strangers killed Travis. How anyone with half a brain can take anything Arias “says” as evidence is beyond me. She is a proven liar with NOTHING to back up HER claims of abuse. Amy, find me some evidence that Travis was an abuser that did NOT come from the unsubstantiated words of Arias.

          • keepsitrealx10

            It is too much! She is not the first woman to kill in a jealous rage but she is one of the best liars I have seen. The evidence backs the truth that she planned this murder executed her plan and then thought she could lie her way through it. The clean up was a failure as it left so much evidence. The bullet on top of the blood, Travis being attacked at the sink while both hands were leaning on the sink and that bloody hand print. That is just a few points. She thought she could get away with it stating no jury would ever convict her, but she left a trail of evidence that said otherwise.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I can see her with a huge smile as she drops his camera into the washing machine.

          • amy

            Again, please note that I am not saying that Travis was a bad person. Men who are abusive pretty much always come from a background where munch abuse, violence and neglect,.is perpetrated upon them.
            One of the reasons I and many other women have have been victims of abuse, tend to believe Arias, because we know from experience ( we meaning ‘us’ who actually were abused by violent men) __ we know from experience that there was no’ evidence’ for the world to see, because among many possible reasons: we never called the police, never had him arrested, never told people, never’ documented’ it, never took pictures etc..
            And I am not talking about minimal level abuse; I am also talking about extreme, dangerous abuse.
            Many abused women who love their partner do not want to leave the partner no matter how extreme the abuse is ( even if her own life is in danger), and many women will do everything to protect their partners, and that includes not reporting them to the police, and not wanting to tell anyone because she does not want to ruin her partner’s reputation.
            Also, I and other women have many times had the experience of not being believed at all.
            We have also had the experience of being with men who to everyone else in the world, never acted abusively, violent or agressive__ yet, behind closed doors, where there is no one else to see, we experienced them being tremendously abusive, agressive, and violent towards us and only us.
            It is absolutely the case that some men will only be abusive to one person, and no one else at all.
            This fact makes kind, smart, likeable, intelligent

          • amy

            charrming men, who have indeed many good qualities, be the very last person in the world that anyone would ever believe would be abusive to others. And, truly, he woul never be abuse or meanto anyone EXCEPT one sole person who he has singled out to vent his pent- up violence and agression upon( behind closed doors).
            There are men who take a sadistic delight in knowing that they can abuse someone who will never be believed, because, among other reasons, he is so nice and kind to every one else.
            There is some kind of psychological dynamic at play that motives being abusive only to one person, and one person only; the first idea that comes to me, is that the aggressor experiences a feeling of increased power and delight in knowing that the victim is even more helpless, and more at his mercy, because she will not be believed.
            As to Arias’s lying, just because she lied a little or a lot, it does not mean she is lying about the abuse.
            Her having lied about stuff might make people less likely to believe her, but that does not mean there is an exact correlation between every statement she makes.

          • amy

            There are some supporters of Arias ( NOT me), who truly believe there is something to the story that other people were there.
            I recently read one or more people’s essays positing the ‘ ninja’ thing had something to do with the possibility that her psyche conjured up that bizarre scenario as a way for her to deal with the incredible trauma of such an horrific occurence. ( I am not saying I believe this.)
            Although the whole ‘ ninja’ scenario is so absurd and preposterous, it does make me wonder why some as intelligent as Arias truly IS, why would she come up with such a stupid and unbelievable story?
            I need to do a lot of research on the ‘ ninja’ stuff. That she gave such an implausible story is verymystifying to me.

          • TrialJunky

            Amy, while I appreciate your compassion, and agree that there are many abused woman who go unnoticed/unreported, I must tell you that you are being quite naive in the case of Arias. She sought Travis out at every turn, not the other way around. An abuser would have wanted his victim in his sights all the time. He was happy when she moved 1000 miles away. He didn’t sneak into her house, watch her through her window, slash her tires, break into her email, threaten her male friends, ALL classic abuser behaviors. ALL done by Arias to Travis. NOT the other way around. I’m sorry Amy, you are barking up the wrong tree with this one. And please, not to be rude, but spare me the dissertation length response. I’m not interested, and you will NEVER convince me that Jodi is not a liar 100% of the time.

          • amy

            Thank you. I appreciate your and other posters’ compassion for Travis. Maybe one day I will find out I was wrong all along, was naive, and was projecting my own personal experiences. However, right now, I do believe Arias acted inself defense.
            You say that an abuser always wants to keep their victim in sight and you mentioned that Ariasmoved so far away( and she moved of her own free will).
            I actually think that speaks in Arias’ behalf, because if she was a stalker, obsessive, and jealous and predatory, she would NOT move away; she would remain close.
            I disagree with your other contentions in the post, but to respond adequately would require a lengthy post, and I don’t want tobe lengthy any more.
            The truth is, I am not as fully and extensively informed about the enormous quantity ofdetail aboutthe case as many others are, so I wouldn’t be able to go point for point and argue certain details, and to my way of thinking, such things must be argued extensively, because there is no other way of trying to get at the truth, or obtain all of the relevant information.
            As I’ m sure you know, and I’m sure you are aware of, all points you bring up are discussed in extensive detail by other supporters of Arias.
            I do not mean to be rude either by imposing myself or boring people withmy lenghty posts.
            Prior to today, I felt that I had sufficiently laid out the entire gist of what i needed to say, so I believed I would never write a lengthy post again, but I did write a lengthy one again to day, because someone very much misunderstood what I said, so I felt I had no choice but to explain to the poster how she misinterpreted me.
            In thefuture if I post, I will try to keep what I have to say to a short length.
            It will likely be the case that I will probably not respond much or at all any longer, because if I see posts that misinterpret me, it will only necessitate that I respond again at length, and will just be a vicious circle.
            So if I see what I said misunderstood, etc., I’ ll just no longer respond because it will just be endless.
            I already extensively said the gist of my entire thought on what happened.
            Obviously in the future there will be people who write entire books on the subject,because such lengthy treatment will be the only way justice can be done to the subject. I will never be sufficiently aware of all the aspe ts of the case, so it certainly wouldn’ tbe me that would ever write a book.
            So, unfortunately, I guess I did land up giving you a long ” dissertation”, but that is the only way I could have a real discussion with you.
            I am no longer going to write any lenghty posts. I probably am not going to write any more posts at all.
            It is not out of an intention to ignore or disrespect people, but, like I said, I don’ t want to perpetuate a constant cycle of lengthy posts, which I feel I will not be able to avoid doing in order to give every aspect its due.
            So, in closing, I apologize for so many lenghty and likely boring posts.
            I did not want to impose upon anyone.
            While I do not agree with most people here, I certainly believe it is comendable that you all care enough to take the time and effort to do what you believe is right.
            Focusing on this trial is very emotionally draining.
            So, since I most likely won’ t be posting anymore, I wish you and every one else an happy spring.

          • keepsitrealx10

            There are a few holes in this theory. If he had tried to choke her in the past then why did she keep coming back? Why would she break into his house and hide I.e. behind the Christmas tree or be found sleeping on the couch, or baking cookies when he was out of town? Her story that he came out of the shower like a football player and attacked her to the floor knocking the wind out of her yet miraculously she jumps up runs to the closet climbs up a shelf not designed for such grabs a gun runs back the bathroom and all the while Travis in this supposed rage just hangs out and waits. Sorry but that lie has too many holes in it.

          • JasmineStarlight

            Do you ever PAUSE to think amy….you sound more intelligent to believe in that farce of a story by CMJA, with zero evidence supporting her lie. The jurors saw the evidence, heard her on the stand, listen to all the experts and came to the same conclusion we did here….Guilty of PREMEDIATED MURDER—with cruelty. Why defend the ugly, twist facts??

      • keepsitrealx10

        Hey remember it isn’t her fault oh no no no it is her parents fault, Travis’ fault, the prosecutor’s fault, the ninjas, and Nancy Grace’s fault. It is even the jury’s fault as they did not follow her orders. Truth does win and the truth is she did it admits to doing it but her excuses just don’t match up with the evidence. As the one juor asked with so many lies why should we believe you now?

    • TrialJunky

      This is SPOT ON. I think she was a difficult child, and her parents found it easier to indulge her than to try and deal with the tantrums that go along with teaching a child that they can not get their way all the time. She was spoiled rotten and never learned how to deal with not getting her way. As she hit puberty, I believe that she realized how much she could get just by using her sexuality. But she never learned how to be part of a two-way street. It had to be about HER all the time. That’s why every man she was with cheated on her (besides Darryl, who was all too happy to keep the young, hot chick around). She really lost it when sex was not enough to keep Travis interested in a long term relationship. And this was man she HAD TO HAVE. She killed him because not only could she not handle the rejection, she could not handle the thought of him being in a relationship with somebody else, and her leaving her behind. Sorry, she may have been disciplined as a young adult for her unacceptable behaviors, but come on, there was no abuse. My Mom spanked my ass when I was misbehaving, my husband was hit with spoons by his mom, and whipped with belts by his dad. I know of very few people who never had a hand laid on them as a disciplinary action. We all turned in perfectly civilized adults.

      • wolfsden6lynn

        Yep, TrialJunky. Just because you are ‘abused’ as a child, and I’m not saying the occasional spanking is ‘abuse’….but ‘horribly abused’, THAT doesn’t even mean you will turn into an ‘abuser’ yourself.
        Agreed…they just ‘gave in’ to her ‘manipulation’, and when THAT didn’t work on Travis…she went into a psychotic rage!

    • amy

      My reference to dreams was to emphasis how unconscious factors influence all of us, and how we rarely gain access to their contents, because the memory of perhaps disturbing knowledge is very quickly lost.
      I do feel bad for Travis’s family.
      I was not meaning to focus blame on parents in general. I was just addressing the subject from one engle; in truth it can and mustbe addressed from endless angles.
      Parents have a tremendous task. I know parents are easy targets for having fingers pointed at them.
      I was not singling out either Jodi’s parents, nor Travis’s. I even tried to emphasize that even if a child wasn’ t raised by nurturing parents, in fact it is NOT at all a simplistic matter of blame; like I said they probably had harmful experiences with their parents, and theirs with theirs stretched back into time, ad infinitum.
      My point was to stress that is not about blame, because life is inextricably interwoven in endless contexts that have endless ramifications, adinfinitum.
      I can see how it would have seen that I was putting undue blame or excessive influence upon parents, but I was only trying to address the topic from one angle. Like I said, it can be addressed from endless perspectives.
      My main point is that no person, nor their life is ever, nor could it ever be explainable.
      Endless factors create and influence everything, so really absolutely nothing can be explained or explained way. It is not possible to give a definitive, exhaustive, comprehensive expaination for anything.
      Not only does it take a lifetime of increasing experience which leands depth and understanding, even after an entire lifetime, everything is as also just as unexplainable and mysterious as when life began.
      It is only a case of trying to understand; maybe all isnothing more than conjecture.
      As to the subject of resonsibility, responsibility has two primary definitions.
      The seemingly most widely accepted notion of responsibility is ‘ accountability’.
      A second definition of responsibility, which I consider to be a more illuminating one, is the definition of responsibility as ” capacity to respond”.
      Everyone does not have tha same capacity to respond, and endless factors alsocontribute to determining one’s capacity to respond.
      Not everyone has the same degree of awareness, perceptiveness, sensitivity, empathy, energy, internal and external resources, etc., to be as responsive according to the ideal degree, or sometimes any degree.
      Of course, to be able to function as a society, and guarantee at least a minimum of safety, civility, and efficiency so society can prosper, of course laws need to be in place and enforced otherwise many of us would be endangered by people who are less aware. T o me, even if a person does something bad, not that they are not worthy of blame and should not atone for their wrong, they are not as an aware enough person as they should be, otherwise they would not do bad things in the first place.
      I deplore, regret and am saddened by any kind of war in this world, but I think that some people don’t think the issue through to its logical conclusion. There too, on a global scale, law and ‘ policing’ as enforcing boundaries and maintaing constant levels of preparedness for defense, is an absolute must.
      We would like a peaceful world free of violence and wrong doing but not everyone is of such a level of awzreness that they have no inclination to harm others. Not everyone is capable of adequate of responding adequately or rightly, that is not to say that they should not be held responsible_ they must be held responsible, but nothing is going to get beter unless that person becomes more self aware, and of necessity institutions like correctional institutions will need to try to help such people grow in awareness and capacity for empathy, otherwise nothing will change for the better, and the person will be no more capable of responding adequately or ethically as before.
      So again, I am not faulting parents in general. Their sacrifice and effort and generosity is enormous. I was just looking at things from one angle, out of endless angles.

      • Aristocles

        What are you ON???????

        • Chiron

          As long as what ever she’s on does not include a jury she’ll be fine.

      • JasmineStarlight

        “Endless factors create and influence everything, so really absolutely nothing can be explained or explained way. It is not possible to give a definitive, exhaustive, comprehensive expaination for anything”
        True conclusions can be formed, with more scenarios then not. Why should some be rehabilitated anyway, with sociopaths it’s not possible—-they play along to get their way or out of trouble. Sometimes a river is just a river….nothing more.

        • keepsitrealx10

          Whoop! Whoop!

          • JasmineStarlight

            Hiya Keeps- Unbelievable. CMJA is Innocent the absurd makes perfect sense—evidence holds no real weight.

        • amy

          Your perspective is just as valid and true; it’s nearly impossible to live life without making conclusions. Often the conclusions will be just tentative or approximate, but, yes some conclusions are absolutely definitive.

    • JasmineStarlight

      So true Keeps!! excellent! Jodie suffered no horrible abuse as a child. Plus, Travis did –he suffered true neglect & abandonment, which is abuse too. Travis’ earlier years having to endure a drug addicted mother, homeless at times….before his kind/loving grandmother took him in. Travis turned his life around, he didn’t go around killing people he thought dissed him. Jodie is for herself and will stop at nothing….not even murder, a revengeful ugly soul she possesses.
      I remember her telling the detective, “if I killed Travis, I would want to die” “I could never do that” and the best ridiculous lie to date ” I own many pairs of gloves, I would wear a pair if I did it” She’s been lying to people for a long time! Soon she will pay for her HORRENDOUS crime. Justice for Travis <3

      • keepsitrealx10

        So true. Travis lived in hell. Went hungry lived in a roach infested environment and even in a car, but instead if being angry he turned his life around and inspired others to do the same. He helped the needy and believed in the good in people even Jodi. She was the worst thing to happen to him and the last thing. But his inspiration lives on. He never saw her coming only because he did not live in a world that centered around one word…”me”.

        • JasmineStarlight

          Beautifully stated Keeps, as usual!

        • Chiron

          I wonder which Hell was worse? If he actually survived Hodi and was still on this planet – my money would be Hodi. And for the time period before she surprised and attacked him.

      • amy

        Travis certainly did experience horrible abuse, neglect, and abandonment.
        While it may not seem like Jodi did not experience horrible abuse, it very well be the case that she did experience horrible abuse and repressed it or blocked it out; we can not know for certain because we did not live her life. ( And if she did block out experiences, they may have been related to a total stranger, and not a family member, etc..)

        • JasmineStarlight

          She is a sociopath, cares only for herself…committed a BRUTAL CRIME.
          Didn’t care about the pain she was inflicting on Travis, who’s end was horrific….didn’t care he had a family who loved him. Revenge, pure and simple—she deserves to spend the rest of her years locked away.

        • JasmineStarlight

          It seems you think she had a valid reason and was more then justified in committing that horrendous murder of Travis, stabbing him 30x–slitting his throat–shooting him in the face…..following him down the hallway stabbing him repeatedly and most likely taunting him too. You try to justify this away by…. HEY, maybe she repressed some former abuse ——-She’s a sneaky evil chick—over and out. I think you would feel more at home at her Jodie-isinnocent web-site if it’s still up and running :(—-go buy one of bracelets help support her appeal (that will never happen)
          Justice for Travis <3

          • amy

            You are misunderstanding and misinterpreting what I wrote.
            1.: No one ever is justified in killing anyone unless it is self defense. If your scenario of what happened is true then what Jodi did is true and can be rightly condemned as a wicked murderess.
            What I am saying is that I don’t think yourversionof how events transpired is correct_ I think your version, your ideas about what actually happened_ I think what happened did not happen the way you suppose.
            I never said the possibility that she had repressed certain experiences in life caused her to kill Travis, and I never said that any sort of repression that Jodi had I never said that any repression Jodi might have had justified her killing Travis.
            Actually, I never said that any repression Jodi might have had, had anything whatsoever to do with the cause of Travis’ death.
            My meaning was that if Jodi had repressed certain experiences in her life, it would explain why she would engage in, and continue to engage in, a relationship that she considered abusive, and repression would explain why her psyche influenced her to play out sado- masochistic sexual fantasies, etc..
            Also, when I refered to the possibility of repression in Jodi, I was saying that while some may see her acting shamelessly, and seemingly feeling no shame, I suggested the possibility that Jodi may have been compensating for actually feeling profound shame, albeit unconsciously for much of her life__ and because she wanted to distance herself from that unconscious shame by ‘ going to the opposite end of the spectrum’ by apparently having a sex life that was very kinky and explorative. As far as repression of shame goes, I was solely refering to her sex life, and in no way whatsoever was I refering to the death or killing of Travis, nor to any attitude Jodi had about Travis’ death or killing.
            The primary, most important role of any repression relates to the topic of whether Jodi repressed__ blocked out most of the memory of the killing, which was an horrific trauma.
            I truly believe she did lose her memory of a lot of what happened; I explained in other posts why I believe that, and my posts are alrezdy so lengthy, I don’t want to make them lengthier.
            I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT TRAVIS DESERVED TO DIE. I am sorry he died. I believe he died because Jodi was acting out of self defense, and trying to prevent being killed by Travis.
            Because Travis grew up enduring so much abuse, neglect abandonment, and trauma, I believe his psyche repressed__ and to an enormous degree__ all of the horrible experiences that happened to him in life.
            So when the events that transpired on the day he died_ _ events transpired in such a way that because Travis had for mostly his entire life been supressing ( unconsciously) an enormous powder keg of rage and fear__ and rage is a normal response to fear, and even a conversion of fear__ Travis could not contain the repressed unconscious forces any longer, and he exploded in rage, attacked Jodi, and tried to kill her.
            With the upbringing Travis had, it is undeniable that he repressed a lot of things in his unconscious; that is the only way he could have coped and thrived at all. ( That is the only way any person could have coped and thrived).
            So when I say that Travis exploded, attacked, and tried to kill Jodi, please see that I am actually defending Travis, because he had such a traumatic upbringing, that he could not have done other wise but one day explode in a likely lethal way.
            And I stated many times that I do NOT think Travis was a bad person, and even if, as I truly believe, Travis attacked and tried to kill Jodi, I AM STILL SAYING THAT TRAVIS WAS NOT A BAD PERSON; I am saying that Travis’ pent up unconscious repression made him act in a way that he could not avoid acting.
            Had the outcome that day been different__ had it been that Travis had killed Jodi, his defense lawyers would have argued’ diminished capacity’ ( and they would have been justified) and Travis would probably only have received a minimal sentence __ and that too would have been justified, because he acted out of a life time of pent up repressionthat eventually had to unleash it self in anexplosive way inwhich he truly had no control over himself.
            I am actually defending Travis.
            I don’t want to write lengthy posts, but that is the only way I can possibly do justice to the subject and respond to your question accurately.
            And I felt I had no choice but to make it a lengthy post, because I wanted to explain to you how and inwhat ways you misunderstood and misinterpreted me.

            I really do not want to write lengthy posts, and if I post anything at all I will do my best to keep it short, but in many ways justice can not be done to this subject unless it is discussed at length; otherwise so much that is necessary to include will be left out.

          • JasmineStarlight

            You refuse to look at the evidence….and base things on ‘what you BELIEVE HAPPENED’….the only person in a rage was Jodie, as she taunted him and knifed him to death. a very painful way to die too. What kind of person can commit a crime like that—-EVIL people, soulless people….a sociopath, she has no feelings for others, something terrible wrong within her.
            You can write a thousand pages—no one believes or is buying your delusions. BTW, I don’t even believe you’re buying your own version…. keep trying to sell it, is useless. Over and out, no more for me, on these ridiculous versions you give.

  • OneOtherPerson

    If anyone ever wondered what the collapse (dash) button next to the flag was for, see Amy’s novel below.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Wow!! Thanks!! ;)

    • Ramblin2

      Yeah, it seems she’s also writing a book on her Nook with all the comments she makes here. “Novels,” indeed! And thanks so much for the tip!

    • JasmineStarlight

      :) that’s a handy tool!

  • Ramblin2

    Hee, hee, hee! I see someone’s talking to themselves. Sheesh!

    Coffee’s worn off so I’m off to bed. G’night.

  • amy

    At least I learned what the dash means.

  • JasmineStarlight

    CMJA picture above is so scary….. I can only imagine that face holding the gun and knife.
    I feel so sorry for Travis’ family, I would want to tear her apart. How could anyone do such a monstrous – cruel murder. A black soul murderess.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      It’s hard to miss the fact that she has open contempt for Travis’ family.
      She can barely hide the smirk.

      • keepsitrealx10

        Ain’t Carma a b-iotch

        • wolfsden6lynn

          LMBO!! YEP!!

      • JasmineStarlight

        Hiya WolfLynn, her pictures always make me shutter :(

        • wolfsden6lynn

          Yes, me too. They are just DRIPPING with Hate..and Loathing. Can you imagine the face Travis saw as she was slaughtering him? She can BARELY contain her EVIL in the Courtroom! A REAL demon!…straight from the pit of Hell, she is!!

          • JasmineStarlight

            Pretty soon Juan is going to finish her off….she probably fantasizes about killing him too. One scary demon is right wolflynn!

          • wolfsden6lynn

            That picture tells a whole LOT! I think she fantasizes about killing a whole LOT of people! I believe Cassandra Collins when she said CMja wants Juan dead.!!
            She ENJOYED killing TA..hence the triple over-kill. Let’s face it, if you’re NOT enjoying something..you QUIT..right? There is NO GREATER power that the Power of ‘life and death’. She is a power hungry, control freak. A serial killer was born that day! imho

          • Chiron

            Like Dick Nixon (before he dicks you) she has an enemy list. Unlike Nixon she started to dispose of her enemies. Close up and personal!

      • TrialJunky

        Isn’t that just so demented? As if THEY have wronged HER instead of the other way around. Jodi Arias is truly evil. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    • Chiron

      I bet that when she was in the actual process of killing him her face would look a lot like Ted Bundy’s the time he really lost it in court at one of his trails. Utter rage not suppressed.

      She seems very Bundy like including changing her appearance frequently and at will.

      • JasmineStarlight

        I didn’t see the Bundy creeps trial, horrible ‘human’ being too. What a waste of life, so sick. You know I saw a poster on The Grand bazaar thread, that knew him—he was in a band, and had some connection with him—–how creepy is that, well, they said Ted Bundy could be very charming and likable. The guy was even called to testified, I think. It’s a small world sometimes.

        • Chiron

          I didn’t see his trial, it was not televised and the facts just too awful. I did read Ann Rule’s excellent biography on Bundy which I believe she titled ‘The Deliberate Stranger’. At the end he was trading bodies for time. By this, I mean the specific locations where he disposed of his victims was exchanged for more time alive and on this planet for himself.

          • JasmineStarlight

            I saw a movie based on him, one disgusting ‘person’. How strange they never want to die, but have no problem killing others. Hope he’s burning in hell. Sometimes you have to take a break from these stories. Goodnite Chiron–Peace<3

      • TrialJunky

        I’d bet that she was screaming at him while stabbing him to death. Something along the lines of “This is all your fault Travis. Why couldn’t you just be with me. Why wasn’t I enough”??? She’s a sick, twisted, vengeful animal.

  • keepsitrealx10

    If Jodi had shot Travis first would he not have been facing her standing up? Then why did the bullet travel down instead of straight through? Why was there no blood? Also (thanks to snothger blog site for this insight) getting shot in the head does slow a person down if not stop them in their tracks. So why did she not leave but went on to attack him? When he was meaning on the sink with his back to her why not leave then? Why after he was stabbed in the heart cut his throat almost decapitating him? If it was self defense why not call for help? If it was self defense why the clean up effort, ditch the weapons and go to Utah and try to have sex with another man? If just going through a self defense truama why agree to go camping with some guys and buy a gun just in case you need to defend yourself from those guys? Jodi supporters sorry but her story just doesn’t add up and the forensics don’t jive with her story.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      The downward path of the bullet…that’s WHY she came up with the ‘linebacker pose’ line of crap. He was shot, postmortem, on the bathroom floor. Hence the bullet casing found on TOP of a pool of blood.
      Facts and Evidence don’t lie…..Jodi DOES!

      • Chiron

        Whatever the reason you have to admit that Martinez, with just that one question, was able to both make Hodi look like the utterly pathetic creature she in fact is and provide most people watching the trial with a cherished memory. Ridiculous and pathetic Hodi – two for the price of one!

    • Chiron

      For the same reason Napoleon said: ‘when you set out to take Vienna, you take Vienna’. Hodi had decided he was a now just a ‘dead man walking’ in May 2008 so she made certain that he was in fact dead, dead, dead, in early June 2008.

    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      I think he lunged at her linebacker-style. That would mean that he had to bend over at the waist and therefore his head would be just at the right position for the bullet to travel the way it did.
      As I mentioned the bullet didn’t exactly penetrate the brain so it did not knock him unconscious. He was aware. And Jodi must have been paralyzed with fear at that time and couldn’t react quickly enough! She could have even asked Travis if he was OK after he went to the bathroom to cjeck his wound. I’m sure she suffered a huge psychological trauma which resulted in a memory loss.

      • JasmineStarlight

        You’re sooooo full of …….

  • Chiron

    I could tolerate any business meeting. For days I could sit there and
    listen to them go on and on with a big smile on my face. They’d say, ‘How can
    you stand it?’ I’d say, ‘Cause I’ve been with Amy at the Epoch Times. I can
    take anything.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      WAY funny!! ;)

    • amy

      Thank you.
      Glad to have been of help.
      Sincerely,
      Amy

      • justifiedx3

        Any acknowledgement makes you happy. So sorry you are that lonely and need any form of human contact.

        • amy

          If you think that my comment above to Chiron where I jokingly say, ” Glad to be of help”, you misread my meaning.
          I was never seeking acknowledgement.
          Since Chiron made a good- natured comment referring to the length and boring nature of my posts, I responded back with the sole intent of being light hearted and friendly. I meant nothing more than that; I certainly didn’t mean any disrespect.

  • keepsitrealx10

    The part of Jodi’s story that raises a big question is what was Travis doing when she was running to fetch the gun? If he was chasing her and had not been shot or stabbed at this point he would have caught her since as she claimed he was so furious. But instead she has time to go to the closet and time to find away to c!imb up shelves that were flimsey to grab this gun. Then come back and shoot him. The closet was not disturbed the contents on the shelves nest and orderly. It is a lie that makes zero sense. When he was leaning on the bathroom sink with both hands and his back to her why did she continue to attack him? She could have left easily and called the police and reported she was attacked. No she wanted him dead as was her plan firmed back in May when she stole the gun.

    • Chiron

      As you know from watching the entire trial all of her actions are completely consistent with a rather nasty piece of work who planned, put in motion and executed 1st Degree, premeditated Murder with Special Circumstances (i.e. like almost all of us here watched online, without the talking heads explaining things).

      The other side of the coin is that all of Hodi’s actions in committing this horrid crime were utterly consistent with the actions of someone who deliberately kills another human being in the midst of absolute jealous rage and than attempts to cover their tracks.

      All of this was proven **in spades** in front of a jury of 12 of Hodi’s peers who ultimately convicted her of exactly that. The only remaining question is whether this creature should be penned for ~ 12 years before the state disposes of her, or cages her in a small cramped cell until in 50 years or so when they finally take out the trash. Either way she will be six feet closer at some point to her ultimate destination.

      Irony is Stabby Ann Arias’ using her vaunted intellect to become the 1st person in US history to provide the state with a photographic record of her crime.

      • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

        You’re a very dumb and vengeful person.

        • JasmineStarlight

          hehehee Chiron would you leave in the intellectual dust, you wouldn’t have a chance debating him. People like you resort to nasty name calling when they’ve nothing… no truth, no facts on their side.

    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      She actually locked herself up in the closet so he could not enter. He was banging on the door while she was looking for the gun. She grabbed the gun, opened the door to confront him and that’s when the gun went off. She didn’t mean to shoot him, she wanted to scare him away so she could make her way out of the apartment.
      .
      WHy didn’t he catch her? Simple: his feet were wet because he had been taking a shower and didn’t have enough traction. It wouldn’t surprise me if he slipped and fell while chasing her – this could have bought her enough time to hide in the closet,

      • JasmineStarlight

        that’s say is beyond RIDUCULOUS…..you must be a troll critter, banging the drums of absurdity….who backs a heartless murderer.

      • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

        Um, no. There were no locks on the closet door. Did you even watch the trial?

        • Chiron

          I suspect that he hasn’t mastered using the remote.

      • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

        Also, according to HER, she entered the closet through the opposite door near the bedroom. The other entrance to the closet was right next to the shower in the bathroom. If she had that much of a head start over him, he could have seen her entering the closet from his vantage point in the bathroom, and taken her out right there in the closet. You know, in his “rage” to attack her.
        Additionally, according to HER, he also came in through the entrance off the bedroom. She did not open the door for him. And the gun didn’t “go off” in the closet. Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the floorplan of his master suite, not to mention what stabby herself said on the stand. You’re obviously just making stuff up as you go along.

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          That’s the point – rage narrows your perception, it has a way of making you blind, irrational, unaware of your surroundings.
          I believe Travis was halfway through the hallway, he had ho have doubled back and headed to the opposite door, but in his rage he DIDN”T see that option, instead he continued chasing her as she was closing the door behind her! He started banging on the door in his rage!

        • wolfsden6lynn

          CMja’s lies defy logic. The jury saw this. Say, she DID head out the bathroom, down the hall, toward the BR?…he would have cut straight through the closet to head her off. She NEVER would have made it to the closet..period.!
          And the casing, landed in the pool of blood, where it was EJECTED from the semi-auto..right on TOP of an EXISTING pool of blood…NOT ‘kicked there in the scuffle’ as so many of her minions want to believe. If it had indeed ‘been kicked there’, it would show blood SMEAR marks. No. It was PRISTINE…as ejected…and landed ON TOP.
          Hiya Q!! *vigorously waving* :)

          • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

            And she thought she was so clever and convincing on the stand telling her tales of woe. The linebacker pose (although I don’t think they actually got to see that–can’t recall now) was especially entertaining. Funny how so much of that day was a blur to her, but her hippocampus made sure to record the exact position Travis was in, right down to the head slightly turned so as to explain away the gunshot.
            Big waves back Lynn!! :)

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Yeah, they were ‘treated’ to it. Here is a link. Of note, pause at the 0:55 and 1:10 marks. If what she says were TRUE, she would have had to hold the gun up around her face, and shoot downwards. There was NO stippling marks on TA, which indicates the shot came from greater than 2.5 feet.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPu3nLwEjAo

        • wolfsden6lynn

          Please forgive my aging memory, Quag. It appears that Jodi changed her story re where the gun ‘went off’. She told Alyse LaV..she shot him ‘in the closet’. After a court recess, and a testimony ‘tune-up’, LaV came back and said she ‘mis-spoke’.. so her testimony would match what Jodi was gonna say (to match the evidence of the shell in the bathroom. Jodi just CAN’T seem to remember what LIE she tells to WHOM.!!

          • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

            Your aging memory is better than my aging memory. lol
            You’re right, she did tell Alyse in Wonderland that the gun went off in the closet. I forgot about that. One needs a flow chart to keep track of all the stories she told! ;)

      • TrialJunky

        That’s correct. His feet WERE wet, which is why he would have been unable to, as she claims (insert eye roll here) “lunge at her like a linebacker and choke her”. He got out of the shower after the 1st couple of stab wounds to try to get away. Really, I’m sure you watched the trial. The closet story was 100% proven to be completely made up by the liar Arias. Again, nice try.

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          No, you couldn’t be further from the truth,
          Martinez yelled a lot at Jodi, used his proven intimidation tactics on her and his yelling could mislead an average viewer, but Martinez did not prove a thing! Jodi was not proven a liar on the stand because her story sounded consistent and believable and there was not a shred of evidence to contradict it.
          >
          By the time he lunged at her linebacker style, his feet were no longer wet (the water rubbed off on the floor/carpeting). try it yourself: if you walk out of the shower stall, your feet will be really wet only for the first few steps, then most of the water will be gone.
          >
          BTW, if Jodi had a gun, why did she use a knife first?
          If she wanted to stab him ,why was she standing there with a camera, snapping pictures? Where was the knife (it usually takes two hands to use such a large camera)?
          Why didn’t she stab him in his sleep, why in he shower?
          Those questions belie your theory of premeditation/knife first.
          It’s obvious the gunshot was first. Even the bleeding from his ears indicates that he must have been shot first.
          And Martinez’s first theory was based on the gunshot being first, but on the eve of the trial he changed it, apparently to use it as an aggravation factor (cruelty)

      • Kim David

        You are mentally on another planet.
        She shot him 1 min after the shower door was open.
        Look that the shower photos. 5:30:30
        Shower door was opened for 50 seconds then bam.

    • Chiron

      She never ran anywhere to fetch a gun or knife. Like all well prepared premeditated
      murderer’s she brought her knife and gun with her and concealed them from her
      unsuspecting victim. Most likely in a vanity drawer in the bathroom placed
      there by her before her prey went in there to shower off the ‘essence of Hodi’. Essence of Hodi is like sheep dip, foul, and long lasting. All the cattlemen in Arizona want to be upwind of her on a hot day.

      She’s been lying since she was first capable of speaking. She eats, sleeps and lives her lies all with the absolute certainty that ‘everyone believes her’. She’s utterly incapable of understanding this and will undoubtedly continue thinking this until the day she does the world a favor and finally goes extinct. All at the hands of the state.

    • Kim David

      Jodi attacked Travis within the 1st minute that the shower door was opened. In all of those shower photos, the shower door was closed. She’s lying about Travis wanting her to take nude pics of him. OMG That is the last thing he would let her get her hands on… Nude Pics of him. After she tried to blackmail him, etc. Ask yourself that question! & I bet you are not involved with a church like TA was. The photo: 5:30:30 She shot him & he’s down/injured inside the shower. The gun jammed.

  • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

    Everybody is so eager to condemn Jodi, but nobody has bothered to try to get to know her and understand why she did what she did.
    I see her as a victim, her relationship with Travis was tumultious and abusive, Travis being a dominant figure, abused Jodi. Finally it came to a head on June 4, 2008 – Jodi simply defended herself with a gun. It’s that simple.
    Martinez’s premeditation bull just doesn’t stand up to scrutity, so many holes that he didn’t even bother to fill in.

    • JasmineStarlight

      It’s the EVIL WITCH Avi—-yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Nothing like idolizing a CONVICTED murderer—1st degree PREMEDIATED murder, with extreme CRUELTY. Are you her pen pal…buying her trace art work, a awful rendition of Snow White with a black eye. (she’s the one who punched her )

      • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

        So much evil in you!
        You just haven’t been in an abusive relationship.
        Jodi has suffered at the hands of that monster mormon pedophile Travis!
        Travis is pure evil! And he looks creepy with that smile, like he’s into young boys!

        • Kim David

          Jodi was the abuser. She ambushed him in his own shower.
          No Excuse for what she did. You should be abused. Maybe somebody can knock some sense into you.!

      • Chiron

        Never teach a pig to sing. It’ll never happen and it annoys the pig!

    • TrialJunky

      James Dean, I don’t even believe that YOU believe this nonsense. Seriously, the more you post, the more convinced I am that you are just trying to get a rise out of those of us who want to see justice served. In this case, the DP for an evil, demented, cruel, self-centered, jealous, insecure, narcissistic, spoiled rotten murderess. But you do keep me entertained.

      • Chiron

        I’ve invoked my policy of not feeding the troll’s here. It only encourages people like James Dean to bring along Sal Mineo and then we’ll have two dead trolls to laugh at.

        • TrialJunky

          I wish I had your restraint. James Dean just makes it too difficult.

      • Kim David

        Amazing how stupid humans can be.

      • Kim David

        ARIAS DUG HER OWN GRAVE… AND SHE’S STILL DIGGING.
        More Lies for the new jury.

    • TrialJunky

      Except that it obviously DID stand up to scrutiny, as the jury found her GUILTY of premeditation. Sorry dude. Or did Juan “pay off” the jurors like you allege he did Dr. DeMarte? Haha, your conspiracy theories are always amusing.

    • Kim David

      Jodi dug her own grave when she had the audacity to lie on tv interviews.
      She kept lying. Once she realized her bs did not fly, she would change the story.
      She’s still lying. Pathetic, uneducated people like her because they are the same.

  • Susan Baldwin

    Absolutely THIS is a crime committed for SELF PRESERVATION…both are damaged people and it took both TDOGG and JODI ARIAS to end in TDOGG ultimately dying..BUT in SELF PRESERVATION, JODI ARIAS admits to the killing and JODI ARIAS was ABUSED from TDOGG’s emails..Sky and Chris Hughes knew TDOGG WAS an ABUSER from their emails…they allowed haven in their home for TDOGG to commit the sexual acts..this is an act of SELF PRESERVATION…this crime at most is a political act by MARTINEZ, who always requests DEATH penalty .. NO DEATH PENALTY AND APPEALS MUST FOLLOW FOR A RELEASE FROM THIS POLITICAL SHAM …

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Pardon my naivety, but what does ‘TDOGG’ stand for?
      I am not up on ‘social media’ abbreviations. Please advise.

      • Kim David

        Nickname for Travis. His friends called him that.

      • Chiron

        It’s a nickname for T. Alexander and unrelated to social media. I had two girls and no boys, so by default daughter no. 2 got a boyish nickname. About 12 years hence It became also known (aka) as the name that cannot be mentioned by me out loud outside of my immediate family. She’s been keeping a tote when I slip for, er, future reference.

  • jcbolow

    Remember it takes “Two” to Tango!

    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      Exactly!
      Travis was NOT a “victim”!
      He did indeed abuse Jodi! There’s no question about it! The tapes, his abusive derogatory language when talking to Jodi, teh broken finger – all these things considered together paint the picture of an abusive relationship where Travis was a dominant male and Jodi – his obedient sex slave.
      Did Jodi want to be his slave – yes and no. She did cling to him because she was unable to say no to him, like all battered women, she could not make a clean break and dump him. She liked the kind Travis but she hated the evil Travis and Travis switched from kind to evil and back in the blink of an eye, just to get what he wanted from Jodi. He was taming her through abuse! He was a disgusting manipulator and Jodi was his victim.

      • Kim David

        Travis only dated her a few months. Once he realized she was “not the one” he broke up with her. She was stalking him. Showing up uninvited. Moved close to his house. They were never committed, promised, living together, married & they never had children. Jodi Arias was a real FATAL ATTRACTION. She Hacked his email, passwords, phone, credit cards, etc. Abused Women Stay because they’ve no place to go. Ask Jodi why she kept going over to her alleged abusers home? She PREMEDITATED THE MURDER & SHE PREMEDITATED PERJURY. Everything Arias says is a lie.

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          No stalking was proven!
          All hearsay!
          Not a single instance of stalking behavior was proven!
          And what do you mean by “hacking”? Do you know what hacking implies? Travis and Jodi shared their passwords to re-establish trust – that’s NOT hacking! Once she used his phone and it was with HIS concent! There was NO hacking going on! You’re lying!
          .
          NO PREMEDITATION!
          SHE KILLED THE PEDOPHILE IN SELF DEFENCE!
          >
          JODI HAS NEVER LIED ON THE STAND!
          MARTINEZ HID EVIDENCE! he was disespectful to others!
          Martinez is the epitome of a liar and a boorish lout!

          • Kim David

            The SELF-PROCLAIMED ARTIST & PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHER… who never goes anywhere without her camera and not one photo of a bruise from that mean ole Travis? Over 80,000 emails/texts and not one word mentioning pedophilia or abuse.
            It’s quite the contrary James Dean.
            Many Witnesses about Arias Stalking Travis. Sneaking into his home, showing up uninvited, moving to Mesa after he broke up with her, she admitted hacking into his phones, emails, etc.
            No evidence about Travis abusing,hitting, kicking, Arias.
            No evidence about Travis being a Pedophile. It’s all Arias Lies. In fact the only one who claims this is Jodi Arias. The Convicted Killer, Fatal Attraction, Stalker, Professional Liar with detailed, graphic lies. She missed her calling. She should have been a writer.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Hah.!! You are right, Kim David.! She could rival the likes of Stephen King!! Only, while Stephen King only WRITES about creepy, unimaginable horrors…Jodi Arias actually puts pre-meditated cruelty into practice…and REVELS in the blood-lust. At the time…and NOW.
            Recall how in court, when the Autopsy photos were being shown, she TRIED to show HORROR…and HIDE behind her hair….but never ONCE did she NOT look at one of the photos! She was DIGGIN’ it!! Looking at her ‘handy work’.
            Had it of been ME?…I would have been puking ALL over myself.

          • Kim David

            Jodi Arias… The Real FATAL ATTRACTION & PSYCHO.
            It’s not a movie!

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            More lies out of your mouth!
            Keep on lying, noone believes you anyway!

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            No, Kim Davis is a INVETERATE LIAR!
            She’s been spreading lies on Twitter and on Facebook about Jodi because she’s a dumb hater!
            I just ignore all her lies! Haters are incapable of telling the truth!

          • Kim David

            lol – you are the biggest liar of all.
            I have witnesses & court documents to back me up.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            NO, SHE’S AN ACCOMPLISHED, ACCLAIMED, GIFTED ARTIST, her works of art were snapped up soon as they hit the shelves! And they were pricey too! Because you can’t appreciate art to save your life, it doesn’t mean that others are as unsophisticated as you are!

          • wolfsden6lynn

            NO abuse was proven….ALL hearsay!
            NO pedophilia was proven….ALL hearsay!
            Look! She said ON THE STAND, that Travis was NEVER affectionate to her in public!! HOW MANY photos do you NEED to PROVE OTHERWISE!!
            Passwords exchanged to ‘re-establish trust’….ALL hearsay!
            If the shoe was on the other foot, and YOU were Travis, would YOU want us ALL saying YOU had YOUR slaughter coming?…and SPIT on YOUR grave?….just because your EX needed to Cover Her A** to save her OWN skin? Hmmm? I THOUGHT NOT!
            And WHAT evidence did Juan ‘HIDE?’ The ONLY evidence that was NOT allowed, was evidence that could be deemed, by the jury, to be TOO PREJUDICIAL TO THE DEFENDANT!!
            As in ‘TO THE DEFENDANT’…..NOT the VICTIM.

          • Kim David

            HEARSAY FROM A CONVICTED LIAR.
            Arias even admits to lying after she got caught over & over again.
            She’s still lying & saying this time she is telling the truth. LOL JODI ARIAS UNDER OATH! PLEASE!

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            You can convict a ham sandwitch!
            Her lawyers were goldbricks, useless, deadweights!
            They did a halfassed job defending Jodi!
            Jodi didn’t get a chance to call the person who saw her bruises from Travis to the stand! That person could have testified to the fact that Jodi was abused but Jodi’s lawyers didn’t find him because they were lazy bums!
            .
            JODI IS WRONGFULLY CONVICTED!!!
            TRAVIS WAS AN ABUSER AND A PEDOPHILE!

          • wolfsden6lynn

            LMAO..dude! The person in question, would be Matt McCartney. He PROVED himself, at Deposition, to be just another weak, lying, minion…caught on tape! Do you REALLY think a relatively inexperienced liar, would actually sit on the stand, and be subject to a cross-examination by Juan Martinez??
            Not to mention her very OWN FAMILY! She thru them under the bus! If THEY say SHE lied…she is ready for Dr. Nick. (thanks Chi). If they say THEY are ‘abusers’..well then..THEY would have to LIE about THEMSELVES! Quite a conumdrom, don’t you think? ‘Tis BEST they keep off the stand.
            There is NO ONE who could stand up, and tell GOOD TRUTHS about JODI ARIAS. PERIOD.!!

          • Kim David

            I think she was blackmailing Matthew. Remember she told the court that he had illegal guns in his home? That was her way of showing him what she could to even though she was behind bars. SHE’S DANGEROUS & THAT’S WHY THEY NEED TO EXECUTE JODI ARIAS.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Agreed.!! The TRUTH is NOT in her!!

  • Susan Baldwin

    What is surprising to me as a previous DISCOVERY clerk for a DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE and have processed many many crime scene photos for in house CRIMINAL CASES used for prosecution is this…Travis was moved from the place of death to scrunched into a shower as shown from crime scene. First the body weight is much much greater..and to be STUFFED as PROSECUTION presented;Travis,though the body is now bloated and ROTTING,his body for the injuries is quite in tact.my issue is some body injuries have to be postmortem..common sense ..his body was relocated and trauma will occur…think ..move a dead body many feet and into a small room and into a small cubicle as the shower..something is just not right about the evidence…and remember Travis had been dead for a very long time in 100 degrees+ and roommates had been in and out of house and never smelled the NOW DEAD body in heat that was extreme weather for a body to decompose…this DEATH for Travis was simply an act of SELF PRESERVATION for JODI ARIAS…it is just common sense..

    • Kim David

      What’s your point? Jodi admitted to killing him. 27+ Stab Wounds, Bullet in the face & she almost cut his head off. She premeditated the murder, tried to lie so many times then premeditated perjury. Everything she said is lies.

      • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

        No, she did NOT admit to premeditating it
        She admitted that the slimeball attacked her in a rage induced fit of anger and tried to kill her!
        Jodi defended herself!

        • Ramblin2

          Are you dead to the fact she is a consummate liar? How nice of her to try and clean up the scene of her crime. There is no reasonable explanation for her to steal her grandparents’ gun, renting a car and driving from Northern California to Mesa to killing her victim. Self defense only according to her lying nature.

          • Kim David

            Ramblin2-James Dean is brain dead.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            I know you are.

          • Kim David

            You are so childish. I know you are but what am I?
            Please don’t respond.
            Don’t bother me again.

          • Ramblin2

            Yeah, I agree. I see his true colors came through. But honestly, there has been no reasonable or sensible explanation for the convicted murderer’s actions (grandparents’ gun being stolen, rental car in a different town, dying her hair brunette/brown and driving all the way to Mesa to see a man she claims abused her). Nope. I believe the CM plotted the whole killing of Travis.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            No, she doesn’t lie all the time.
            She told the truth on the stand!
            And everybody has lied at some point in their lives! Only Jesus was always truthful.

  • wolfsden6lynn

    Well, as long as we’re waiting..and waiting..and waiting for the sentencing phase…we might as well have a good time..RIGHT?? Pause at the 0:57 mark…THAT’s when Wilmott realizes they are SUNK!! Enjoy.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bux27f49T5U

    • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

      Thanks for the chuckle, Lynn! The look on her face is priceless!

      • wolfsden6lynn

        Also of comical note, pause at the, say, 0:28 mark. Take a GOOD look at the height of Jodi’s chair! They kept it WAY LOW to make her seem ‘petite’, and more ‘sympathetic’ to the jury. Pa-leeze!

        • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

          Wasn’t that a joke?! They had to resort to cheap tricks like that since they knew their defense strategy was so lame!

    • Chiron

      Wilma looked as startled as a deer in the headlights at night pretty much throughout the whole trial. Why? Like most deer in the same situation she knew she was screwed.

      Hodi the ‘Linebacker’ just before that is also a hoot!

    • TrialJunky

      Oh my fellow Meatball…THANK YOU for posting this link. I haven’t laughed so hard in a long time. HILARIOUS!!! And I love that song, only I would have to disagree with the lyric “you’ll probably go to heaven”. It’ll be a cold day in hell before that POS Arias goes to heaven!!

      • wolfsden6lynn

        *giggling* I’m sure she THINKS she’s goin’ to heaven..but you kinda, sorta have to have a Soul, first..from what I hear. I BET she views herself as a modern day Joan of Arc…a ‘slayer of evil’…to be ‘martyred’. P*ss on her psychotic ego!

  • Yankergang

    I have been reading a great number of the posts that indicate Jodi acted in self defense. I am in awe of the reasoning behind this belief. The entire altercation was within an approximately two minute time span. I read an awful lot about Travis attacking in a rage. Why, if that is true that Jodi needed to use such brutal force to “save her life” was there ZERO discussion on the stand regarding ANY wounds that Travis inflicted on Jodi? If she was fearing for her life, why stand behind Travis at the sink while his “defenses” were down and continue to attack? If she was so frightened of him, that would have been her opportunity to flee the residence. However, she stood behind him and continued to stab him. In listening to her direct testimony, she indicates that he came after her, forcing her to run to the closet, climb the shelf and retrieve his gun, if she then shot him at that point as the supporters indicate, has the weapon at her disposal, pointed at the man she so fears, in my opinion, if it were myself in that position, I would keep shooting until my “attacker” was incapacitated, not take one shot, relinquish the weapon in favor of a knife, using it to “make little slashes, not wounds” as one poster so eloquently called them. If it truly were a self defense situation, why would she not have fled the residence at the very FIRST opportunity following Travis no longer being a “threat” to her well-being? People who are simply defending their person do NOT stick around to do the laundry, shower the victim, dispose of the evidence and THEN leave….they just LEAVE! Jodi certainly went out of her way to convince all those in her life that she was only behaving “innocently”. Why the rental car, the gas cans, the “dead cell phone”? She is AFRAID of this man so much so that she travels a very LONG distance to go to see her abuser ( right before he is to leave on a trip with another woman). NONE of these arguments make any sense whatsoever to me, yet they are discussed by people who have suffered abuse themselves. Keep in mind, this was a very short-lived relationship. Abusers always begin with their “best foot forward” and slowly become abusive after they are completely comfortable with the person they are manipulating. Yet Jodi describes that he was manipulative and cruel right from the start. Unless she is a total idiot, no woman would seek to continue in a brand new relationship that was bad from the very start. Although I agree that women who have been abused over a long period of time tend to lose their sense of self worth and esteem and are convinced that they are the problem. However, if he was abusive and she “escaped” by moving as far from him as she could get, why would she go out of her way to drive all that way to spend the day with the “monster” whom she escaped, when she had the “wonderful guy” in Utah to go and sleep with? She just stopped off on the way to seeing her new boyfriend for one last beating? Where is there ANY reality in this argument? I have also noticed that ANY facts that do not support the “self defense” claim are simply ignored. In discussing a case, ALL of the FACTS are pertinent and cannot be ignored simply because they do not fit the belief. Juan Martinez is a passionate prosecutor, doing his job. His job is not to hand hold, or present a compassionate picture for the defendant. His job was to get to the FACTS of the case, which is difficult when yoiu are dealing with a defendant who changes her story repeatedly. She is a narcissist, that fact is clear based on her behavior AFTER the killing took place. There is nothing about this case whatsoever that would ever convince me that she acted out of fear. I lived through an extremely abusive relationship, and it took me a very long time to escape it. However, once I removed myself from the relationship, I took GREAT pains to avoid EVER putting myself back in that position again. What she did is not in keeping with a woman who left a bad relationship. The FACT was, he left her…and she was a woman scorned. In retrospect, none of this argument truly matters…as she was CONVICTED by a jury of her peers and all that remains to be discussed is her sentence.

    • TrialJunky

      You are very well spoken Yankergang, and absolutely right about Jodi. There is NOTHING (besides Travis coming back from the dead and saying he abused her) that will EVER convince me that Jodi acted in self-defense. That murder was premeditated 100%. The trolls will try to convince you, however, that the “broken” finger is proof of Travis’ abuse. You know, the one that she changed her story about several times, and couldn’t even manage to keep “crooked looking” throughout the trial, although I give her credit for trying. I like the way you think, but be prepared for a barrage of CMJA supporters to spew their nonsensical theories your way.

      • Yankergang

        Trial Junky…let us “assume” that the broken finger was reality..she herself indicated that it was broken in January, which still does not support my statement, where are ANY wounds that were inflicted on Jodi?

        • wolfsden6lynn

          No wounds inflicted upon Jodi from Travis. None. Zero. She had two cuts to her weetle fingers that were ‘self inflicted’…either by knife slippage, or her own frenzy. She realized she was bleeding..had to get HER blood/DNA off him..hence the long drag back to the shower..to get rid of that evidence.
          It must have been REAL hard getting him all that way back there..further enraging her. He was QUITE dead, at this point, with his head hanging loose..she SAW this..and shot him in the face, postmortem, out of further anger. Un-holy creature that she is.

          • TrialJunky

            I also believe that she kicked him several times post-mortem out of rage. She’s a demented, dangerous animal.

          • Kim David

            I think she also told him stuff like, look at you now, screaming like a girl! She told the Det that he was screaming but not like a girl or anything. She often uses part of the truth & mixes it with a lie.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            No, she’s a battered woman!
            Travis was a demented dangerous beast! Thank God he was stopped dead in his tracks!
            Travis won’t subject others to so much abuse any more!
            .
            I mean, he DROVE a normal woman to MURDER! It’s unheard of! He must have gone to town on her!

          • Kim David

            She’s a Fatal Attraction & compulsive liar. A Fraud. Impostor.

          • Kim David

            If the gun don’t jam, no bloody crime scene, no prints, no hair, No Photos. She was going to steal that $1,600 camera. That was like drugs to a junkie to her. HER WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN WAS TO UNLOAD THE GUN ON HIM INSIDE THE SHOWER & LEAVE WITHOUT A TRACE OF EVIDENCE!

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            the simpler and right explanation is that the gun accidentally went off as Travis lounged at her, trying to knock her down and beat her up, like he used to do!
            And Jodi didn’t need Travis’s used camera, she had her own.
            And how could Travis afford to buy that camera? He was into hock! He even borrowed money from Jodi! Must have cajoled it from one of his girlfriends in exchange for a light of lovin’>
            Travis was like a gigolo!
            .
            He definitely was abusive scum and his “luck” ran out on him when he tried to pull that stunt on Jodi! Travis = scum

          • Kim David

            Yea Right. The gun accidentally went off! ahahah
            She shot him before he got out of the shower! Duh! within 50 seconds after the shower door opened he was wounded!
            JODI HAD TO BORROW GAS MONEY TO DRIVE TO MESA.
            She was a fraud. A Self-Proclaimed Artist & Professional Photographer who was a part-time waitress & couldn’t keep a job.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            I bet Travis left a lot of bruises on her after her bodyslammed her and started pounding the living daylights out of her!
            .
            Trust me, bruises don’t leave scars, only bad memories.
            .
            You think she did what she did because of “jealousy”???? Please!
            She was young and pretty, why would she be fixated on this douche! He invited her into his apartment, they had sex then she dropped his camera and all hell broke loose – he jumped out of the shower at her, she slipped away, grabbed his gun and it went off.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            This is pretty serious to folks, on BOTH sides of the fence. It is OBVIOUS, from your comment, that this is some kind of JOKE to you. It would behoove you NOT to reply to me again. Wolf

          • wolfsden6lynn

            You didn’t watch the trial, or see any of her pre-trial interviews.
            Go to youtube to catch up.
            Start with her 48 Hours interview, and In Session.
            THEN tell me, she is NOT a TOTAL LIAR.
            While you are watching these, you MUST REPEATEDLY keep in mind, that EVERY word out of her mouth is a COMPLETE LIE. It is hard to fathom that ANY ONE can LIE that WELL.

        • Kim David

          How else would her blood get in the crime scene & mixed with his?

          • TrialJunky

            She sliced herself with the knife during the crime. Then couldn’t decide whether to claim the finger had been broken in an altercation with Travis or sliced by a broken margarita glass at work (that she never reported). Her lies never cease, and there are so many that she constantly trips herself up.

          • Kim David

            1. She told Det.Flores, Cat Scratched her Finger.
            2. She cut it at work. Margaritaville. (no such place existed)
            3. She cut it on a Margarita Glass.
            4. She cut it on a Margarita Dishwasher, burned it.
            5. Travis broke my finger! Kicked me in the stomach again.
            6. She finally admits to Juan on the stand that she sustained the cut on her finger on June 4.
            HOW ELSE WOULD HER BLOOD GET IN THE CRIME SCENE?

          • Kim David
          • Yankergang

            The wounds were self inflicted due to her frantic handling of the knife in her hand. She never made any claims that Travis did anything to her to draw blood

          • Kim David

            She wore gloves too. Just like OJ. She cut her finger stabbing the one she loved. Narcissistic people can’t handle jealousy & rejection.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      There was NEVER ANY indication that Travis was a violent man. The ‘Self Defense’ defense was needed by Jodi..to get her ‘pedophile letters’ introduced in court.
      She was arrested in July of ’08..said she was NOT in Mesa, and hadn’t seen TA since she moved back to CA in April. Flores told her about the hair and bloody palm print evidence..hence the ‘two Ninja’ lie was born. She stuck to that for two years.
      During this time, she was busted with two contraband pens, in her cell, THREE times. (once hidden under the sink, once hidden under her bunk, once hidden in an empty shampoo bottle).
      With these pens, she was working on the HANDWRITTEN ‘pedo letters’, which she saw as her key to freedom…had to give the Ninjas some kind of ‘motive’ to kill TA!!
      She tried to have ‘copies’ introduced as evidence in June, 2010. The court said NO, except in cases of Suicide, Accident or Self Defense. And WHA-LAA!…the SD was born!! She worked HARD on these letters! Dated Nov. 27, 2006 to May 27, 2008. (please note the DATES..in regards to their ‘relationship’)
      TA’s private, handwritten journals were stolen around the time Jodi moved from Mesa, back to CA. (the move, imho, was necessary because she was basically un-employable, could NOT support herself, and TA would NOT let her move in with him)

      • wolfsden6lynn

        Sorry, see above.

      • Yankergang

        In some fashion, I sometimes wish that those forged letters had made it into the court documentation. They would have put to rest much of the trashing of Travis Alexander’s name that continues to go on. Without that proof that she wrote them herself, it allows for continued speculation of his character. However, I have a suspicion that those who support the self defense belief will never admit to them selves that Jodi lied about 99 percent of the time she was on the stand. Those who believed in her during trial were paid “experts” ( I use that term loosely ). If she were of great character, there should have been at least a few people who knew her well that would have come forward to indicate that she was truly a good person. The string of lies she told and stood by in the media were simply an invitation to everyone to pass a certain judgment upon her. When the “I wasn’t there” didn’t work…and the “ninja folks” didn’t fly…what was left? Oh yes! The victim was REALLY the perpetrator!

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Sorry, hit the ‘post’! See below for ‘part one’. Picking up where I left off, SOMEONE has those journals! ANYTHING a person gives to an Attorney, to give to his Client, is Privileged, and vice-versa…Like copies of TA’s handwriting..which she utilized to forge the letters she sent to her mom to sell to the National Enquier..AFTER they were deemed FORGERIES by a handwriting expert..and NOT admitted into evidence.
      Here is the link to the court documents..and Juan’s response. Start at Doc 11/40.
      Pay CLOSE attention to Page 17/40..this will prove just HOW DESPERATE Jodi was/is to get those letters into court..one way or the other! I believe she STILL will TRY!..in the upcoming Sentencing Phase. Again, she worked HARD on those letters..considers them ‘masterpieces’..and will NOT let them go..imho.
      http://www.docstock.com/docs/109828551/Jodi-Arias-Court-Documents

      • Yankergang

        Wolf…not to mention the confiscated magazine that she tried to get past the guards as her only “credible” witness was NOT telling the correct lies that she believed she had set him up for. Her audacity simply appalls me! For a woman who claims that she attacked in “self defense” she certainly has gone WAY out of her way throughout to mask the TRUTH! If you are defending yourself, you have NOTHING to manufacture!

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Eff. Try…..
      http://www.docstoc.com/docs/109828551/Jodi-Arias-Court-Documents

      Below, I added a ‘k’ to docstoc…will try again. Please forgive. Wolf

    • Kim David

      She attacked him before he got out of the shower.
      If you review the shower photos (taken by Arias) You can see the pic when he sees her for the first time. All of the photos were taken with the shower door closed until 5:30:30. He down/injured inside the shower. The debate about what came first gun/knife does not matter. She inflicted everyone of the injuries. Withing 50 seconds after the shower door opened Jodi Ambushed Travis. She’s lying about him asking her to take nude pics of him in the shower. Not even a sinner would let an ex get her hands on nude photos of them…. especially after she tried to blackmail him.

      • Yankergang

        I totally agree with you Kim! I was just playing “the devil’s advocate” in trying to even remotely understand how anyone could view this case as a self defense claim. I always try to be open-minded, as if this were myself on trial I would want fairness. However the facts of this case just do not present themselves in any other fashion. I fail to see in any of the claims how the thought process was arrived at in the end. I think MANY people can attest to a “bad childhood”, terrible parents, bad relationships…etc. But it takes a special breed to commit such heinous acts and then smile in the faces of the family suffering the loss of a loved one

        • Kim David

          Concerning Jodi Arias’ Childhood? I think the Parents got screwed on that deal. They got Rosemary’s Baby.
          They were abused by Jodi.

    • Chiron

      I believe that the last self-defense ‘story’ has been litigated at a little hearing they called a 1st Degree Murder Trial. Hodi spent a couple of weeks on the stand lying her way into conviction.

      Sadly, for Hodi, the state wants to plant her 6 feet deep. They are just in process now of determining the timing of her ‘lie now die later plan.

      • Yankergang

        Chiron, I believe it is just a matter of “how much later”

        • Chiron

          If we decide to start a winner take all pool, I get 1st dibs on exactly 12.5 years from the last day of her Penalty Phase II Trial.

          Although I’m also considering the day after she initially meets some of ladies waiting for ‘new meat’ in the DP Cell Block at Perryville.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            You couldn’t be more wrong!
            On death row she won’t have contact with other inmates period! No one will be able to hurt her at all, She will have a private cell with no inmates!
            .
            If she gets 25 to life, she will spend at least 2-3 years in a private cell too! Then they’ll consider laxing her security level!
            .
            So NOONE will be able to harm Jodi in prison! You ghouls are all DEAD WRONG!

  • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

    The truth of the matter is:
    Jodi was wrongfully convicted!
    Travis was an abuser!
    There’s a plethora of evidence that supports abuse and NO evidence (beside hearsay from Jodi’s haters) that proves stalking!
    It was a SHOWTRIAL! Jodi was convicted in the media even before the trial began!

    • TrialJunky

      And who exactly PUT Jodi’s ugly mug in the media in the first place??????????????? SHE DID!!! I would have never even heard about or had any interest in this case had I not seen her cocky, “smile and say cheese” attitude on 48 Hours. She put herself and her lies out there thinking she could fool the masses, including a potential jury pool with her baby voice and big words. Too bad the only people she fooled were trolls like you. And you’ve got it all wrong, the hearsay came from Jodi, regarding the abuse and pedophilia. PLEASE, where is this “plethora of evidence” of which you speak? Again, NOT hearsay from the CM. I know, I know…stop feeding the trolls. It’s just so damn difficult.

      • Kim David

        Arias had the audacity to tell all of her lies to the media. Some of her quotes:
        “I was not in Mesa! 2 Ninja’s Killed my friend, I’m the Hero, I tried to save Travis. Ok I did it but it was self-defense. If I had to answer to God for such a heinous crime like this I would be shaking in my boots. I would have worn gloves. They put the gun to my head & pulled the trigger but the gun jammed! Travis invited me, Travis kicked me, Travis knocked the wind out of me, Travis strangled me, Travis body slammed me, Why did you keep going to his house? You never were in a committed relationship, engaged, living together, married or had children. JODI ARIAS IS A FATAL ATTRACTION!

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          She didn’t lie on the stand!
          When she took an oath to tell the truth, she told everything – Travis was a pedophile, an abuser and nothing redeeming about him, except for his pretty face which every woman falls for, including you.
          .
          And as for lying to the police, the police are criminals themselves! They have the blue code of silence and lie for each other!
          And why did Dr Horn lie on the stand ? Why did he change his story? His report read that the brain was INTACT!

          • Kim David

            Arias kept calling the detectives wanting…. to help find the killer. Her calls were recorded by Detectives. The recording has Arias telling them that “TRAVIS DID NOT OWN A GUN.” Then she changed the story again saying the gun belonged to Travis.

      • Yankergang

        TrialJunky…I could have not said it better myself! I was thinking the very same thing in reference to the SHOWTRIAL comment…SHE invited the media to be part of the entire trial..SHE appeared on 48 hours and told horrendous lies PRIOR to the trial even beginning. If she was “wrongfully convicted”, perhaps she should have considered telling the truth in the first place. Travis an abuser and pedophile?? According to whom? The forged letters that she tried to get admitted into evidence? It was proven that Travis did not write any of those things. As I said before…ignore the facts that do not support the self defense belief, because the TRUTH is not important. Make the statement that there is no evidence that supports stalking? Explain the rental car with the gas cans in the trunk that was supposed to be used “locally” when rented? Explain her cryptic magazine entries to the witness who was about to tell the TRUTH which did not match Jodi’s latest “version” of events…or do we just IGNORE those facts?

      • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

        Haha, you’re jealous of her good looks because your mug must be really ugly.
        Jelly jelly!

        • TrialJunky

          Hmmm, Way to avoid the question JD. Whether I’m jealous of Queen Snaggle Teeth or not does not change the fact that she invited the media attention. Wanted it. Now she cries that she can’t get a fair trial because of it. Soooo, where’s that plethora of evidence you have that proves her self defense. You might want to send it to her attorneys.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            WHO first contacted HER?
            It was the media!
            They want a STORY that sells! They wheedled an interview out of her!!
            It was all THEIR fault!

          • TrialJunky

            Whether or not the media contacted her first really doesn’t matter. The fact is, she had the opportunity at that time to tell the self defense story if it had been true. Unfortunately for her she believed that her ninja story would work. It wasn’t until years later, when her lies came crashing down that she made up the self defense theory in order to try to save her own ass from the death penalty. If you tell the truth from the start, you never have to worry about keeping the story straight. Boy was she convinced that her lies would set her free. GOSH Jodi, you should have been less worried about your makeup and more concerned with telling the truth.

          • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

            Queen Snaggle Teeth…LOL! And those demonic eyes. Yeah, that’s the look every woman wants! ;)

  • Kim David

    Good thing Jodi did not want to de-edify Travis. lol
    Karma is in Arizona. She’s caged 23 hrs a day & chained when she leaves to shower.

    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      Wait till her appeals get her a re-trial!
      Then we will see who will have the last laugh!
      Obviously this trial was a sham!
      She was tried in a kangaroo court! Judge Pickles did nothing to take that out of control douche Martinez down a peg!

      • Kim David

        She will never win an appeal. She claims she never got a fair trial when she lied so much to everyone & she’s still lying! ahahaha She’s a fool & so are you.

      • TrialJunky

        Well here’s ONE thing we agree on James…Judge Pickles (as you call her) had NO control over that courtroom. However, if you recall, it was Jodi and her defense witnesses who needed to be taken down a peg. Such disrespect and evasion of questions should be admonished immediately and punished by being held in contempt of court. Several members of Jodi’s peanut gallery should have been removed from the courtroom for laughing at the antics of the fool LaViolette. And Jodi’s mitigator (haha, as if) should have been sent home on day one and told not to return until she learns how to dress appropriately for court. Wilma should have been told once or twice “NO” when asked to approach in order to distract the jury. Judge “Softy” Stephens (as I call her) was and is totally inept as a murder trial judge. But Martinez should be given a medal for maintaining his professionalism in a courtroom where nobody else seemed to know the meaning of the word.

  • Kim David

    WATCH JODI PERFORM FOR THE JURY!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3gSfq4EetY

    • Yankergang

      Kim, I do have to say that I liked the “line-backer pose”. If it were not all so horrendous and pathetic it would be amusing.

      • Kim David

        Her favorite position & she blamed that on Travis too.
        The truth was… He was staggering like a linebacker trying to get away from her & she kept stabbing him all the way. He wouldn’t die. Then she slashed his throat. That Killed Him. No doubt in my mind that the gun jammed. Her well thought out plan was to unload the gun on him in the shower & leave without a trace of evidence.

  • Kim David
    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      Quit your spamming!
      Noone beliebes you!
      Stop making up stories!

      • Kim David

        U R THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.

  • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

    Kim Davis is a liar!
    Jodi is innocent!
    You’d better look at how Travis was talking tp Jodi, how abusive and rude he was to her, calling her nasty names!
    Travis HAD IT COMING! He broke her finger, he abused her and HE LIED to his so called mormon friends about her, and they in turn exaggerated his fables to further harm Jodi’s case>
    They are a bunch of Mormon douches!

    • Ramblin2

      Wrong. Convicted murderer Jodi Arias is a liar. Even a jury found her guilty. One day, you might may wake up to reality but then again, you may choose to continue to live in a fantasy. Your choice. A jury DID find her guilty so you saying she’s innocent makes YOU a LIAR.

      • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

        WRONG!
        Jodi is mostly truthful! And she lied to the cops because she’s distrustful of them, and she has a right to be! I don’t trust cops either! They LIE themselves! Martinez LIED, Horn LIED and Florez LIED on the stand!
        WHY DID HORN CHANGE HIS TESTIMONY ON THE STAND??? His report read “no brain trauma, duram mater intact”. Then on the stand Horn FLIP-FLOPS and tells a very different story! HE LIED!!!

        A jury is made up of people who couldn’t come up with a decent excuse to ditch jury duty!
        Please!
        I have very little trust in their intellectual power !
        >

        • Ramblin2

          Well, no James Dean (I take it you’re more of the pork sausage variety). You said she was innocent, which is wrong because a jury found her guilty of premeditated murder. “Mostly truthful” only when it benefits her. Why did/does she distrust the cops? She growing pot on the rooftop again? Martinez, Horn and Flores all lied? You’d think they’d be in trouble for doing it but I see they’re not behind bars. You better go tell someone who cares. Gosh you make so many excuses to say your convicted murderer is innocent and been shanghaied but the fact is she killed an innocent man, was tried and found guilty by a jury. Ultimately, they’re the ones whose decision matters most. So no matter how much you proclaim a killer’s innocence, she’s been deemed guilty as sin.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            Why is Martinez not in trouble for suborning perjury from Horn?
            .
            Let me tell you a little story: a prosecutor (by the name of Ken Anderson) purposefully hid exculpatory evidence, committed misconduct, which led to the conviction of a TOTALLY innocent man! The poor guy spent 25 years (!!!) of his productive life in a unrine-soaked cell in prison for the crime he HAD NOTHING TO DO with!
            .
            The prosecutor, who later got promoted to a judge (no less) was caught 25 years later (!!!) (a big thanks to the Innocence project) and what do you think they did to him? Gave him 10 DAYS in jail! Wow, what a punishment! And you know, it’s an unprecedented event, because usually prosecutors are NEVER disciplined (let alone prosecuted and convicted) for gross misconduct! Because they have IMMUNITY!
            .
            Martinez has immunity! Even if you build an AIR TIGHT CASE against him, he will NEVER be prosecuted because of immunity! And trust me, Martinez has a propencity for misconduct! He has a reputation for being unruly in a courtroom, for not comporting himself in a way befitting a court official!
            .
            But Martinez will GET AWAY with his crimes in the Jodi case, EVEN if they overturn her conviction (which I hope will happen, because her case is fraught with misconduct). That’s sad that because of Martinez Jodi has to serve time for something she DID NOT do!

          • Ramblin2

            Nah, I can’t really trust you JD. Arias isn’t innocent. She’s guilty. She DID kill an innocent man. There is no question she killed someone and lied about it for years. So you can talk about Martinez misbehaving or whatever but it doesn’t have anything to do with her killing Travis. CMja has a propensity to lie for her own benefit and has a reputation for fake crying and telling even more lies that’s not becoming of someone to be believed. She’s serving time (cough, cough) for something she did and was found guilty by a jury. You can twist that all you want but it doesn’t change the fact she killed someone with premeditation and cruelty, she was found guilty by a jury. Now she needs to be sentence for the crime she was found guilty of doing. Those are the facts.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            I am really trying to be ‘delicate’ with you. I AM. No JOKE.
            But Ram is right! How can you possibly BLAME Juan for the ‘blood lust slaughter’ that Jodi Arias reveled in?
            She showered herself, STANDING OVER the hacked up, dead body of TA, to remove the evidence of HER blood..ALL over him..from her cut fingers…AND all the ‘cast off’ blood she was covered with.!
            He was ALREADY in the shower, thus removing ANY trace of ‘sexual DNA’. But HER blood, necessitated the LONG DRAG BACK to the shower. She NEVER anticipated him leaving the enclosure of the shower..let alone cutting herself.!
            There was NO ‘FOG’. There were NO ‘ninjas’. There was NO, ‘I haven’t seen Travis since April…when I was forced, financially. to move back to the support of my family’.
            Reality check! Your ‘delicate flower’ STOOD over/on the corpse of a man, she professed to LOVE, and SHOWERED herself…and himself CLEAN…of ALL evidence of her being there.
            How much MORE evidence do you need of PRE-meditation?
            Jodi was TOTALLY in control…and did her UTMOST to hide her involvement in this grizzly murder.

          • QuaglinosPlaceOrMabels

            And remember that plastic glass they found on the shower floor next to his body? I’m sure she used that to wash down any blood spatter on the shower walls.

      • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

        And I don’t find Mormons believable!
        remember – they used to practice POLYGAMY (and some still DO)!!
        Mormons also practice ATONEMENT BY BLOOD!!!
        Some believe that Travis was killed by mormons as part of the atonement by blood ritual! They killed him and blamed Jodi for it! So that Ninja story could be right! REMEMBER: there WAS an unknown BLOODY shoe print found at the scene – could belong to a mormon assassin!!!

        • Ramblin2

          Are you related to the book peddler?

          • wolfsden6lynn

            LMBO!!!!!!!!! Good one, Ram.!!!!! ;)

          • Chiron

            Commissioned Agent actually. Currently starving on no income and grasping for straws.

        • wolfsden6lynn

          *heavy sigh* ‘Blood Atonement ritual’?…..Nope.
          The Mormon community Loved and Respected Travis! ALL of them, from MANY states around. WHY would they want to ‘contract’ hired assassins to murder him?
          And the ‘unknown, bloody shoe print’?…..Pssst…..that was Jodi’s.
          Remember, when she came out of her ‘fog’, she had NO shoes on? Yes, she disposed of those, too, along with everything else.
          There MUST have been a whole BUNCH of bloody stuff she disposed of, seeing how she even needed to get rid of the floor mats to the rental car. Can you imagine?…loading your car with SO MUCH blood dripping sh*t, that you would need to dispose of ALL FOUR floor mats?

    • Yankergang

      James, had she simply shot Travis and left the scene, I may be compelled to believe your theory of self-defense. However Jodi EXECUTED Travis by slitting his throat from ear to ear. If you find this action to be justified because he was rude to her, then I fear for you, or would possibly be afraid OF you. During all of Jodi’s interviews she displayed heartfelt tears and a sweet demeanor…ALL of them. The problem is, she was lying during most of her interrogations and media interviews, she herself told us all that. One who can cry while lying is someone who has some deep seated problems. While I can appreciate your differing viewpoint than others, I cannot find it in myself to agree that her behavior during this crime was one of someone simply defending their person. She always had the financial and psychological means to leave that relationship if what she attested to was true. We know this because she moved 1000 miles away, never lived with him and had her own job. This is not in keeping with a battered woman who is wholly dependent upon their spouse or partner, which makes it difficult at best to get out of the relationship. I cannot agree with you that this man deserved to die.

  • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

    You people have NO RIGHT to judge Jodi – she has done nothing wrong to you!
    And you don’t know how big of a MONSTER Travis was!
    You haven’t talked to Travis! And Travis was a a duplicitous DOUCHE! He used Jodi and abused her!

    • Yankergang

      I believe that they used each other. He used her for sex that he obviously was not going to get within his faith, and she used him for the sex as well as the car, the job opportunity and the chance to become “Mrs. Alexander” and escape the dead end life she was leading prior to having met this man. Unfortunately for BOTH of them, marriage was not in his plans with her and she was unwilling to give him up and simply move on.

    • wolfsden6lynn

      And yet, here you sit, judging TA, who, by ALL testimony, has done NO wrong, and NO harm to ANY ONE.!! EVER.
      Remember…from the Interrogation videos (ALL available at youtube), she kicked the family dog SO hard that it left and never returned…tried to strangle her OWN cat…and kicked her OWN Mother…on MORE than one occasion.
      The ONLY person who says TA was a ‘duplicitous douche’ was the actress who was trying to save her OWN skin. Her OWN family refused to testify on her behalf.!
      What, exactly, does THAT say about HER?????? Hmmmm?

      • wolfsden6lynn

        P.S: On the Interrogation videos, she claims all those SCARS from her cat were ‘from him PLAYING rough’. As a cat lover..I call bull sh*t.!
        But….NO matter what I say,,,,,, her OWN BROTHER posted the fact that she strangled her cat on HIS web page! He ain’t gonna LIE for her!!

  • justifiedx3

    DNR to trolls. They can’t get or keep a job so they spend their days jumping from one website to another, changing their names, trying to get ANY response to their rantings, which they don’t believe any more than the rest of us, just to make themselves feel significant. When asked to back up their ludicrous statements, they either change the subject, attack the poster, or go silent. They are the true “Rebels Without a Cause”!

    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      pleeease!
      Unlike the TV James Dean, I have a cause, that is to free an innocent woman, Jodi Ann Arias!
      She deserves a second chance!

      • Ramblin2

        Why?

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          Because:
          1) premeditaton was not proven. Too many unanswered questions: like Why did she take the gun with her but intentionally left the camera behind? Why did she have to do it while he was watching her, when she could have done it while he was asleep? Why use the knife at all when she had a firearm? Why not wear gloves? Why not procure some poison (women usually kill with poison, not with knives)
          .
          2) Abuse did indeed take place in their turbulent relationship, Jodi was abused (which is evident from the phone conversations taped by Jodi & her broken finger)
          .
          If you want her to do some serious prison time, then it’s murder II (15 to 25) (heat of the moment), given the fact that if she had premeditated it, she wouldn’t have made such a mess.
          Murder I is completely unjustified!

          • Yankergang

            1) Based on the evidence, she did not feel that she was “leaving evidence behind” in that she threw the camera into the was with the bloody items and believed it would be destroyed. Obviously, she felt the gun and knife would not be destroyed through laundering them. How do you know that they “slept”? All I heard about in testimony was they spent the day having sex and then Travis went to the shower. You would have to ask Jodi why she felt the need to use a knife to carve him up and slit his throat from ear to ear, we ALL wonder about that question. Perhaps grandma and grandpa did not have poison to steal. Given that this was her first murder, perhaps she missed the prospect of wearing gloves, or felt that the murder was only going to take place in the shower, so no gloves needed when you can just hose off the evidence. I do not believe she planned on Travis living past the shower, hence the “mess” that she was faced with in the aftermath was certainly unplanned. Keep in mind, he did not live there alone…so obviously she could not clean at her leisure and leave.

            2) I would have agreement that there was mutual emotional abuse going n in their relationship. However, if Travis did the physical things she claimed, her defense team could have very easily had x-rays taken of Jodi’s body to determine any past fractures, as what she described would have had to accompany those. Why did this not happen? In “taping” phone conversations, it is easy to eliminate parts of conversation you do not wish to be heard on your own behalf. Why were the letters that were indicated Travis was to have written admitted into evidence? ( Because they were determined to be forgeries.)

            3) Her sentence is not up to the media, or the general public. Whatever transpires in the courtroom is up to a jury and the judge. I fear that if she were “freed” as you support, she would follow through with her vigilante personality. Remember the camping trip she was going to attend with a bunch of males after the murder took place? She purchased a 9mm handgun to take along “just in case”. My first response to that is…if she is indeed an abused woman, why would she even entertain attending a camping trip where she was the only female? And my second question is, why bring a gun to a CAMPING trip? It is not at all that anyone WISHES someone to be guilty…I wish she had not murdered him in the first place.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            1) Why destroy the gun? That makes no sense. The whole point of taking the gun with her would have been to prevent CSI from lifting fingerprints off of it!!! I see no other reason for that. But following that line of thought, why leave the camera and why not wear gloves to begin with? Even toddlers know that criminals wear gloves and masks! I don’t think Jodi was that dumb to have overlooked that detail! Especially if you believe what Martinez said about her “staging the burglary of her Grandma’s house to pilfer the gun “!
            .
            And why take pictures of him? What is the point of that if she was going to kill him? And her destroying the camera means that she didn’t need the pictures!
            .
            She had arrived at 4 am (there’s proof, like she said that Travis was watching youtube and computer experts later corroborated that) so they had plenty of time together, a huge window of opportunity to AMBUSH him and pump him full of led! Why do it in the shower, he was looking at her so she had no element of surprise – he would have seen it coming!

          • Chiron

            Get a life Pamela, you reason you don’t understand how a cold, brutal P O S is convicted by a jury of 12 and not you is they are all much more qualified than YOU.

            Toss: Here’s a shiny quarter, Oz is to the North, you can find the Wizard there and request a functioning brain.

            PS: Give Joyce, Boston and the rest of the old HP Gang currently there, my best regards!!

            “Go North till the men speak Italian and continue until they speak something else where the people speak Italian, then keep going until they speak something else”

            Ta,Ta!

          • Ramblin2

            1) The jury disagrees with you. They found premeditation. As for the “too many unanswered questions” how can her answers be believed when she’s proven to be such a consummate liar?

            2) I think Travis was the one abused since he ended up paying his life for it. No proof he broke her finger and as for the phone conversation taped by her, it was sneaky of her to do it, if not illegal.

            And why talk about charging her for M2 when she was already charged and found guilty of M1? You can’t rewrite the past, no matter how often you choose to misrepresent it.

          • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

            Well, the jury was misled by Martinez’s rhetorics! It’s so easy to be deceived by Martinez because he flaps his jaws like nobody’s business!
            .
            He’s like a broken record – he is droning on and on about the same silly irrelevant point until the jury begins to think that it is of much bigger importance than it really is! Like that silly gas cans point – it was completely irrelevant!
            .
            Thank God the judge didn’t let Martinez blow the alleged “animal abuse” out of all proportion! I bet he would have dedicated a week to it, concluding with comparing Jodi to Hitler. Martinez is scum! I don’t believe a word out of his lying mouth! And he suborned perjury from Dr Horn and Det. Florez!

          • Ramblin2

            LMAO! Well, they weren’t “mislead” completely because they weren’t able to decide on which punishment to give someone they considered a murderer. As for the rest of your rant, it doesn’t change the fact your beloved is guilty of M1. I bet Martinez, Horn and Florez are still free and doing their jobs. Your beloved is still in jail awaiting her fate. I hope she gets sent to prison for the rest of her life without a chance of parole.

      • Kim David

        She’s not innocent & she’s not a woman.
        She’s a guilty monster.
        Rosemary’s Baby

      • wolfsden6lynn

        Second chance to what?…kill AGAIN?
        She was planning to go on an ‘all male’ camping trip…and WHAT does she do?
        Buys a 9mm handgun…just in case she needed to kill again!
        She has NO QUALMS about inserting herself into situations where ‘killing another human being’ MIGHT be an OPTION.!!
        Truly the signs of a thoroughly DERANGED individual.

  • Kim David

    ARIAS SLIPS – ADMITS SHE INJURED HER FINGER ON JUNE 4 – WATCH HER LIE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_TCy2_816Y (GO TO FRAME 55:28 if you can’t watch the whole thing) The Best of Juan Martinez!

    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      No, she doesn’t
      You’re seeing things that simply aren’t there!
      Because you WANT her to be guilty. It’s called “confirmation bias”. You will take EVERYTHING she says as her admission of guilt.

      • TrialJunky

        And aren’t YOU taking everything she says as proof of her innocence? Really JD, you are silly. How does her crooked finger sometimes appear straight. Because she “forgets” to bend it sometimes. Good thing her victim act didn’t fool the jury.

      • Kim David

        How did her blood in the crime scene?
        Mr.Einstein….

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          Because Travis assaulted her!
          He wanted to kill her!
          And it doesn’t take an Einstein to realize that Travis was an ABUSIVE JERK and a MENACE!

          • Ramblin2

            All this because a convicted liar said so? You actually have no proof of what you just stated above. She also considered herself to be of Einstein’s intelligence. lol Of course, she doesn’t know chit either except how to lie badly. Only you are foolish enough to believe what she spews. Certainly, it doesn’t take an Einstein to know you can’t believe what a proven liar says. Einstein, you are not. Pork sausage fits though.

          • Kim David

            https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203482870900594&set=gm.684344224944958&type=1&theater

            Arias admitted that the only injury she sustained on that June 4th were to her left ring finger.

            If he assaulted her, where was her bleeding injury?

            PS: She told detectives that Travis did not own a gun.

            PPS She shot him within 50 seconds after the shower door was opened. All of the shower pics she took had the shower door closed until 5:30:30.

          • TrialJunky

            Yes, Travis assaulted her because she was a “stupid idiot” who dropped a camera on the floor. And I just saw a pig flying outside my window.

      • TrialJunky

        Actually, JD, she does admit it was her ONLY injury sustained during her slaughter of Travis. I just watched the segment on youtube myself. Besides, if there were ANY truth to her claim that her finger had been injured by Travis during a DV altercation on an earlier date, there is NO DOUBT that CMJA and her attorneys would have moved heaven and earth to have that finger xrayed to use as evidence in her self-defense lie.

        • Chiron

          Her finger was most either damaged:

          When some chicken ‘betrayed her’… just before she strangled it whilst still working for the Kentucky Col.

          She cut her own tendon while letting Alexander know that he had ‘betrayed her for the last time’.

          I’m going to go with no. 2 above.

          • wolfsden6lynn

            Forget her tendon. She is probably ‘double jointed’.
            A cut so deep as to slice a tendon, probably would have required at least a stitch or two.
            I’ll go with No. 1 above…it was a chicken…fighting for it’s life. ;)

          • Chiron

            I don’t think we know how deep her non-existent ‘restaurant glass’ actually cut her as neither side thought it worthy of the time to present to the jury. Nurmi was mostly asleep and Wilma was too busy biting her tongue.

          • TrialJunky

            What?? You mean to tell me you don’t believe it was injured while she was being body slammed? Kicked? Choked out? Oops, I mean cut on a glass at Margaritaville? Oh, you mean there is no Margaritaville in that area? Ummm, I meant to say a Margarita GLASS at Casa Ramos. Yeah, that’s it. That’s the ticket. She’s such a fool.

          • Chiron

            The longer she lies, and insists that she is smarter than a 5th grader, the shortly it’ll be until she gets to meet her last doctor. Dr. Nick.

          • Chiron

            Slinging overpriced tequila, with cheap triple-sec, genuine-fake lime and Jimmy Buffet playing loudly on cheap speakers is the closet to Margaritaville Hodi’s ever been, and most likely not even that is actually not really true especially if she actually said it.

      • wolfsden6lynn

        ‘Confirmation bias’ works BOTH ways! EXCEPT, you Jodi supporters take everything out of her mouth as the ‘gospel truth’…when she is an ADMITTED…and PROVEN pathological LIAR! Even the jury saw this!
        On the OTHER hand, there is NO evidence to support her claims..NONE of them! Was TA an abuser? Nope. A pedophile? Nope.
        She said, several times, that TA NEVER showed her affection in public! I have seen more than 75 photos that prove OTHERWISE! Plus videos!
        Face it…if her lips are movin’ there is a LIE comin’ out her mouth.!!!

        • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

          When Martinez liez his posterior off, you take it as par for the course! Remember the time when he changed his story from gunshot first to gunshot last, no doubt to make a bid for the death penalty? Or have you forgotten how D Horn blatantly lied on the stand about some “error” in his report! C’mon, how can he know more about Travis’s brain trauma NOW than he did 5 years ago when he wrote the report? That sounds suspect to me! And how can Horn “not remember” talking to Flores? Yet you expect Jodi to remember what store she went to, to return the gas cans, and on what day! Or maybe you forgot the time when Martinez withheld evidence, lying that “he didn’t have any”, only to later release it. Was he sanctioned? No, because of immunity.
          .
          I guess the prosecution can lie but if the defendant lied 5 years ago when she was arrested (and undoubtedly still shell-shocked after the incident) that immediately makes her guilty! Acccording to you!

    • wolfsden6lynn

      Very profound segment, Thank you. Wolf

  • Kim David
    • http://www.AboutJodi.com James Dean

      1. Your link doesn’t work
      2. You’re known for being extremely biased against Jodi, and for creating bizzare, libelous “caricatures” on Twitter.
      Why don’t you quit BS’ing? Your “caricatures” are in bad taste, have little to do with the truth, and overall of bad quality,

      • Kim David

        You are known for being a fool!
        Arias dug her own grave by lying & she’s still lying.
        Travis was old enough to be my son, you fool. All you can do is call him names that untrue. Everything we say about Jodi Arias is the truth & we have evidence to back it up.
        You’re the biggest loser on this site!
        Everyone agrees with me!

      • TrialJunky

        LOL, you’re such a hoot! It is YOU dreaming about the 3 hole wonder in YOUR bed. Me thinks thou dost protest too much.

        • Chiron

          I suspect his bed, desk, bent over a car hood along a busy highway and in the Drawing Room with Col. Mustard. Everywhere and anywhere… except a shower.

  • Kim David

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