The Grand Bazaar


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  • GidonBelmaker

    First!

    • TapestryMood

      Unfair head start;-)
      Nice place ya have here!

      • Unlisted2u

        Hey Taps — come look in this corner.. a mini keg fridge..! :D

        • TapestryMood

          Any mini-lemonade or iced tea;-)

          • Unlisted2u

            <– poking around under semi-stacked merch..
            O.M.G. One of each..! And a fully stocked 2nd bar too..!!

          • TapestryMood

            Ahhhhh..such great hosts….and, such a wonderful tracker you are, too;-) See Linds finally checked in and all can breathe again…nice!!
            Have a good day..xoxo…

        • JasmineStarlight

          :) you found that fast!! spot all the good stuff pool and refreshments.

          • Unlisted2u

            Pure luck..
            I just walked over to tie this loose tent flap
            and there it was..! ;)

    • Unlisted2u

      Cheat..! ;o)

    • Feisty

      Glad it’s not the Grand Bizarre!!

      • chezmoi

        Fear not, it soon will be!

    • AskandTell

      Thank you Gidon!

    • gmb007

      Gidon, you know all the BEST places! Thank you! : )

    • chezmoi

      Merci, Gidon! How thoughtful to set up a new house whenever we fill up the old one with our accumulations. I truly don’t think Disqus is prepared for loooong threads like ours, so we must get used to a nomadic life. Maybe teepees, igloos, yurts, and Berber tents are the life for us. (Or Mercedes vans and mobile homes, like the gens de voyage here in France…) Meanwhile, keep after D to shore up their servers – even on their own site, they couldn’t handle the traffic on the ‘changes’ thread.

  • Cynthia W.

    Nice !!!

    • Unlisted2u

      Heyyy — didya see the size of this pool over here..?

      • Cynthia W.

        So much to look at. S&S would love that pool.

        • Unlisted2u

          I know.. Why I mentioned.. :D

  • Feisty

    Is this the place I can exchange my flying broom for a flying carpet?

    • Unlisted2u

      I suggest selling it at Brooms Unlimited first..
      They do great cash deals here.. :D

      • Feisty

        I think I’ll list it on Hag’s List.

        • Unlisted2u

          Ahhhh… Good thinking.. :)

    • JasmineStarlight

      LOL!! Hi Fiesty…..that would be nice and convenient ones own flying carpet, no gas needed. Fun too!

    • OneOtherPerson

      So you decided against the Dyson ?

      • Feisty

        Pretty sure I’ll hit the wrong switch!

  • JasmineStarlight

    I love to shop the market places–so diverse. Another good idea Gidon -Thanks for the hospitality! My Armenia friend told me how beautiful this place is—ahhh one day travel :)

    Istanbul, a universal beauty where poet and archeologist, diplomat and merchant, princess and sailor, northerner and westerner screams with same admiration. The whole world thinks that this city is the most beautiful place on earth.
    Edmondo De Amicis

    • Feisty

      Hello Ms Starlight! This might be the first room where there will be very few who speak the native language – just guessing.

      • JasmineStarlight

        I’ll be surprised if that isn’t true. World travelers here now :)

      • JasmineStarlight

        Feisty we should christen it with a song :)
        perhaps belly dancers by the pool.
        Oh I better get back to work—need money to travel.

        • Feisty

          I posted relaxing music – I think we could still kinda belly dance to it.

    • Unlisted2u

      Woahhhh..
      That’s a +1 for sure! :)

      • JasmineStarlight

        :) I can dream!

        • Unlisted2u

          Nice Dreams..
          O, wait! That movie title’s already been used.. ;o)

          • JasmineStarlight

            Reruns are OK…..especially when it comes to dreams :)

          • Unlisted2u

            Especially when Cheech & Chong dreams.. ;o)

          • JasmineStarlight

            :) I think they may forget their dreams after a few dubies or they get bigger dreams—chill

          • Unlisted2u

            Earache, My Eye.. ;o)

  • Unlisted2u

    Gidon & crew: Thanks so much for opening up a fresh space for us!!
    Words cannot express….. wellll, guess they’re gonna have to express.. our gratitude..! :D

    • Feisty

      Turkish Delight!!!

      • Unlisted2u

        Absolutely! :)

  • OneOtherPerson

    Moving every week, always one step ahead of the trolls.
    I feel like I’m on the lam.
    Mmmm, lamb kabobs.
    BRB

    • JasmineStarlight

      getting me hungry for lamb kabobs :)

    • eyelashviper

      Maybe we are all in witness protection….

      • Feisty

        Witless protection?

        • eyelashviper

          guilty….

        • Unlisted2u

          You didn’t know..?
          We testified..! :D

          • Feisty

            Snitches!! I look terrible in jumpsuit orange!!

          • Unlisted2u

            We testified about Arianinny & her cohorts..

  • Feisty

    This seems like good background music

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S95rakdZJGg

    • JasmineStarlight

      Their culture is great in many ways! I dated an Armenian for years, so easy to fall in love with. I hate the hookah bars though.

      • Feisty

        I dated a second generation Armenian for seven years. He had lost a lot of the culture – was a California boy. His dad was very fond of the homeland though.

        • JasmineStarlight

          The same here he was 2nd generation here—-he was inspiring to me, I shall never forget him. He came from humble beginnings and made his fortune —so bright. We were the mismatch for sure, but, I felt like I knew him a thousand years—so comfortable with him from the get go.
          sorry rambling on here, memories flood back with this place.
          I got it in check again…..ahhh miss him<3

  • geezer 56

    Nice digs! I could use some retail therapy, come to think of it. And caviar! Thanks, Gidon et al.!

    • Unlisted2u

      Ohai..
      Stamp sez 20 min ago, but I swear this just showed up, Geez..

      • geezer 56

        Thanks! Thought I was being ignored (sniff).

        • Unlisted2u

          Nuh-uh..
          That’d be impossible to do anyhow, lol!! ;o)

    • Feisty

      Geezer!! I didn’t see you!! All the remodeling done?

      • geezer 56

        Good Lord no. We’re only on Day 4 of Monster Fan noise. Things aren’t drying out as quickly as they’d hoped. I think they may be bringing a big space heater today. Heaven knows when this will actually be all done…

        • Feisty

          Crank up the music and belly dance with us!! It will make everything all better!

    • JasmineStarlight

      Geezer you can celebrate your remodeling nightmare ending….retail therapy, like that one :)

  • Lindstr7

    So many memories of Istanbul. Great mix of the ancient and modern. An odd side note, there were so many homeless cats in Istanbul! many maimed. Wonder if its still like that.

    • Feisty

      Aww! Feral cats have a very difficult life.

      • Unlisted2u

        Cats..?
        Thot she was talking about jazz players.. ;o)

        • Feisty

          LOL!

          • Unlisted2u

            :D

        • Lindstr7

          Hah! vrrry fawny. No, the only “cat” of that type grabbed my friend’s butt cheeks in a dark alley, you never heard a shriek so loud. We learned very quickly you don’t go out at night without a chaperone. Maybe it’s more evolved now but somehow I doubt it.

  • Canukistani

    Well. This is bazaar.

    • Feisty

      Heya!! I beat you to that one – kinda!

      • Canukistani

        Just decided to look in for a moment and couldn’t resist.

        • Feisty

          How’s your Turkish?

          • Canukistani

            Umm, not delightful, I must admit.

          • Feisty

            Turkish with a Canadian flair eh?

          • Canukistani

            Something like that. Turkish coffee with rye is worth a try.

          • Feisty

            How’s Nell’s belly dancing skills?

          • Unlisted2u

            I was just inquiring about Nell the other day as well, Feisty.. ;o)

          • Feisty

            That Nell, always hanging around the railroad tracks . . .

          • Canukistani

            But always on the right side of them.

          • Feisty

            :) She’s a peach!

          • Unlisted2u

            It’s a good trick..
            Depending on the situation, ya can be from either side.. ;o)

          • Canukistani

            Interesting question. I don’t think I’ve seen her do that. Looking forward to it though! Hey, did we get a new bar too?

          • Feisty

            Play this for her – see how she does. It works for me.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laQ4U-1EGuc

            I am going to show my ignorance here – what do Turks drink? Looks like a bar to me, let’s go find out.

          • Canukistani

            This may be her in her early days working under an alias. I’ll have to ask her …

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YQM_zfYO7Q

          • Feisty

            Your sleuthing skills are top notch as per usual!! She how she dances as if she still has her wrists and ankles tied?

          • Canukistani

            Just like she could see the future. Amazing girl! Anyway, I gotta be outta here for awhile, but I did want to take a moment to celebrate our latest digs.

            Hmm, I wonder if maybe we should start using Commas to party since it’s been such a great party room the last few nights. I guess we can think about later.

            Anyway, I’m off for now. Don’t drink too much of the raki. I have no idea how strong it is.

          • Feisty

            See ya!! I have to go as well. I like your idea friend!

          • Unlisted2u

            At least two bars, as far as I’ve found so far..

          • Unlisted2u

            If you have “Whipped Cream And Other Turkish Delights” on first press American CD, you have yourself one rare $$$’d item..

          • Canukistani

            Just my luck, no, I don’t. That’s why I don’t buy lottery tickets.

          • Unlisted2u

            I forgot to yesterday..
            Some party in CA won my $400+ mil cos of it too.. :-/

          • Canukistani

            I’d be happy with that, although I’d give most of it away. That’s just too obscene an amount to imagine keeping to myself.

          • Unlisted2u

            I’d charity some of it..
            If I hit that much most would go to my kids & their kidlets..

          • JasmineStarlight

            Some lottery winners our killed for the loot… spouses or lovers have taken out a few lottery winners. Money sometimes brings the worse out in people. I wish I would a million or two though YEA!! Off to that bazaar I go. 400M such a big one, I hope some people who truly needed it won, doing some good things with it—after they’ve some fun.

          • Unlisted2u

            Oh.. well then — since I don’t want to live the rest of my life looking over my shoulder guess I’ll just have to spend it all immediately.. like so many other’s have before me.. ;o)

          • JasmineStarlight

            lol–There’s the solution….I’ll become your new pal too, help you get rid of it quickly :)

          • Unlisted2u

            I thank ya.. :D
            You and all my other newfound ‘friends’ — we’ll get rid of all that dirty ol’ munny in a hurry..! :)

          • geezer 56

            That’s the one with the pretty lady smoking a hookah in a mound of whipped cream, right? I used to have that…

          • Unlisted2u

            If you know the hookah, you know the rarity..
            Withdrawn immediately..

          • geezer 56

            Funny–I remember dancing around to that album like a nut when I was a kid. Now it seems it’s in every record collection that’s shown in a movie or on TV. Big Lebowski comes to mind, and there’s at least a few others.

          • phoebequeen

            Hey geezer. Love the Big Lebowski! Watched it with family Christmas night, what can I say, we are freaks. Had fun watching my 17 year old sons reaction to all the f-bombs. I think we counted 200+. Hope renovations are coming along without too much wanting to strangle the workers. Bad for Angie’s list.

          • geezer 56

            The workers are doing all they can for the moment. They seem like good people, fortunately.

            I think I have the Big Lebowski nearly memorized. I swear I’ve watched it at least fifty times. ;) “Hey, careful, man! There’s a beverage here!”

          • Unlisted2u

            It isn’t a/the hookah..
            Can’t recall if there’s really even one in the shot..
            It’s bugging me a bit.. cos I can’t remember off the top of my head what makes that CD (complete package) soooo rare & valuable since we don’t do CDs.. But rare and valuable it is.. I’ll find out in a bit..

          • geezer 56

            I was kidding about the hookah (since you added “Turkish” to the title.) I had it on vinyl, BTW–what on earth would make the CD version so valuable?

          • Unlisted2u

            I kinda thot U were..
            Which is why I had to straighten out my add-on..
            And also figgered U had it on vinyl too, of which there’s several million copies of just the 1st pressing alone..
            As noted, I really cannot recall what/why at the moment.. I will find out though..
            Another CD that’s worth some decent $$s is the BMG Music Club issuance of Hendrix doing all acoustic blues tunes. White insert with just a pix of him sitting on a stool looking downward & playing an acoustic guitar..

    • Unlisted2u

      Ba da BIM! ;)

    • OneOtherPerson

      We thought we ditched you.
      Did the security deposit cover all the damage to the HOC?

      • Canukistani

        Don’t worry. We know where to send the bill.

        • OneOtherPerson

          Better hurry up, we’ll be outta here in a week.

          • Canukistani

            No kidding! You guys are always one step ahead of the law. Well, except for me, anyway.

          • OneOtherPerson

            Always keep one suitcase packed and the passport on me at all times.

          • Unlisted2u

            Go bag always at the ready..

          • Canukistani

            Ah. A career criminal, used to life on the run. This might be harder than I though. I’ll put Nell on this one.

          • OneOtherPerson

            Not Nell!!
            Will you take a check?
            Just don’t cash it till next Tuesday.

          • Canukistani

            I thought that might bring you around. She can be tough!

  • eyelashviper

    Music to shop by in this lovely bazaar…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3lWwBslWqg

    • Feisty

      Won’t work :( . Seems we need some belly dancing music!!

      • eyelashviper

        couldn’t copy and paste due to computer revolt, so did it by hand, it’s now fixed..

    • Lindstr7

      Heya Lash! Nice to see you! Great weather here eh? I’m inside right now so maybe its hot out but i’m loving it.

      • eyelashviper

        Hooray, you made it, just in time for heat and sunshine….
        Hopefully we are over the cold dreary days…
        have you been exploring?
        There are lots of out of the way beaches off St. Pete and further south, tho don’t know how many are dog friendly.

      • eyelashviper

        Just tried to reply to you, my computer not cooperating, think it’s haunted.
        Anyway, welcome, it is finally warm and sunny again, after many weeks of cold rainy days.
        Have you been out exploring yet? There are beaches in out of the way places, not sure if they are dog friendly or not. many in Floriduh are not.
        Enjoy!

  • Denni A

    nice digs.

    • Feisty

      Heya Denni!

  • Gin1234

    Wow. It’s only been open an hour and you guys have the place a wreck already. The shopping looks fantastic, though!

    • Unlisted2u

      It isn’t a wreck if ya know where everything is.. or was.. or where it goes back to.. or something like that.. mostly.. usually.. ;)

      • Gin1234

        But, I just left for a minute……. Do you have a map?

        • Unlisted2u

          A map..?
          Or THE map..?
          One is $4.95; the other..? Priceless..! ;o)

    • Feisty

      Heya Gin!! Great to see you!

      • Gin1234

        Hey Feisty!

        • Feisty

          How’s your belly dancing? Me and Jasmine are trying our hand (hips) at it – you gonna join us?

          • Gin1234

            My belly gets in the way, besides it’s hungry.

          • Feisty

            Lots of food here – stock up and join us!! We have veils . . .

          • Gin1234

            All I see from the door, is candy. That’s what’s making me hungry.

          • Cynthia W.

            Is it chocolate?

    • JasmineStarlight

      A wild bunch here true explorers.

      • Gin1234

        Don’t get too wild and knock over anything. It’s a little crowded!

        • JasmineStarlight

          I don’t think they’ll notice Gin and if they do….. I’ll point out 2U blame him

          • rg9rts

            Ask Taps about U2

          • Unlisted2u

            Heyyyy — I didn’t knock anything over..
            I just set it down kinda hard with one elbow.. ;o)

  • phoebequeen

    Ooooh, so pretty{as kitty tip toes between stalls}. Sniff, sniff, sniff, I smell spices and huka. Just finished watching Canada/US women’s hocky. Sorry we lost, good effort, but for the Love Of God, stop crying! We have to be strong!!!

    • JasmineStarlight

      Hiya phoebe….does kitty belly dance too! Don’t you just love the aroma of spices :)

      • phoebequeen

        HeyJasmin! Only if there is a mouse the size of a Buick on the end of a string! Spelled hookah wrong before. Nice they are so hospitable here. I must say, I was hoping for something in Tuscany. Maybe next one.

        • JasmineStarlight

          I always spell worng….hate the hookah, choke to death on it! kinda of sexy though —everyone sitting around smoking and laughing….just having a good time. Oh Tuscany would be nice–wish we could transport there. lol–mouse gives incentive—you’re to funny.

          • phoebequeen

            I be following you now. Just getting hang of format still.

          • rg9rts

            Psssssfftty

          • phoebequeen

            Here, let me scratch your chin. Care for some squirrel?

          • rg9rts

            Low ash kibble…..on a diet

          • phoebequeen

            Yep, happens a lot with cats and kidney function.

          • rg9rts

            Altered males mostly

          • Cynthia W.

            Has he had any problems, or is this preventative?

          • JasmineStarlight

            Oh, I luv phoebe the cat, big on personality, a smart kitty—-like many here :)
            I’ll be following you too—always forget to click on Avi to follow…..always find everyone here anyway :) have a great day—off and running now.

          • Lindstr7

            Ohhhh now I want to be in Tuscany! I’ve always dreamed of a vacation there like that movie…something in April…something something. (nice to see you Jasmine!)

          • JasmineStarlight

            Hi Lin…So nice to you have you back in the fray here……sounds nice in Fla. sun and water….relaxing. At least you’re doing a little traveling now—some adventures

        • Feisty

          We travel A LOT around here Phoebe!! We fill these room up pretty quickly and they are very gracious to give us a new place to light!!

          Gonna belly dance with me and Jasmine? We have lots of veils . . . .

          • rg9rts

            Can I watch and be careful Pheobe has a thing about hanging bras on people.

          • Feisty

            You better watch . . Phoebe does that? Well, she really needs to dance with us then!!! :)

          • rg9rts

            True story. Let her tell it

          • phoebequeen

            What? What? {unhooks bra, scratches, flings it on top on tv.} Ok, what were we saying now?

          • rg9rts

            Your dancing story from the other night??

          • phoebequeen

            Haven’t told son that tid bit about mommy yet. He’s 17 and so far, he’s on the straight and narrow. I think when he turns 28, we can tell each other all the really, fun {drunk} stuff we did. Had a friend who did that with her daughter. They realized they had more in common that just a nose.

          • rg9rts

            They compared wrap sheets

          • rg9rts

            Wanted to put it on someone’s head??

          • phoebequeen

            Yes, I’ve been known to do silly things before. Somebody has to do it right?

          • phoebequeen

            I know. They are very cool with us free loaders! Ooh, I want a purple one; brings out my eyes!!! Oooh, we can get henna tats too!

          • Feisty

            Certainly!! We need lots of beads and sparkly things too!

          • rg9rts

            Like the tassels in The Graduate???

        • Lindstr7

          Tuscany is a great choice! Always dreamed of going to a cooking school there…….

          • phoebequeen

            It’s so pretty there. Want to go back and paint!

          • Lindstr7

            You’ve been there!? argh…jealous face. What’s the other region there…Umbria…that’s another one I’d love.

          • phoebequeen

            Yep. Went a few years ago. I could live there. I loved Rome too. So much history.

          • phoebequeen

            Oh, forgot to add, I’ve never seen so many beautiful men in my whole life! Even the priests were gorgeous! And, they really do love women, love to look at her like art. My husband was getting a little pissed because I was being checked out so much. Loved it!!

          • rg9rts

            Did he have his sidearm?

          • phoebequeen

            No, but he was pissed. It was so funny. The guys weren’t gross about it and didn’t do it like when you walk in front of construction site. It was classy. It started on the flight, in airport, and by the time we got on shuttle bus, he turned to ask me, ” What the hell is going on?” I told him to calm down and I think it’s just because they have so much art there, admiring women, is like a past time.

          • rg9rts

            And he bought that BS story?? LOL

          • phoebequeen

            Well, I’ve never had guys pay that much attention to me before, and I’m blonde and lived in Asia. They just love the ladies and I’m good with that.

          • rg9rts

            I’ll bet he’s in no rush to go back LOL

          • phoebequeen

            No, I think he would. He just had to laugh too after awhile. I think it might have been a little different if we had a daughter with us.

          • rg9rts

            Good.

          • Lindstr7

            Lol! love it. Hey, Italy is for Lovers. Mi amore! My favorite grafitti in Florence was “fack you” spray painted on the wall lol. Now thats art!

          • phoebequeen

            LOL!

  • BornOkayTheFirstTime
    • Unlisted2u

      Ha!
      Good choice.. :)

  • Lindstr7

    I remember going through the underground bazaar (Grand Bazaar) and the shop owners would say “Miss miss, please come in, have some tea, miss, please” as you walked by trying to sell a carpet or their wares. Everything was so ridiculously inexpensive (but being a student, had no money anyway). I wanted to say “wow that’s so cheap!” and pay them what they asked, but my more saavy travel partner would warn me, “they don’t respect you if you don’t negotiate, they’ll think you’re a fool.” So from then on I learned to negotiate the price.

    • rg9rts

      Lets make a deal! or is it Such a deal!!

      • Lindstr7

        So funny, the tv here just went on the show “lets make a deal.” (And yes I loved that you could in the end walk out making a good deal if they liked you!)

        • Feisty

          Is it a law in Florida that you HAVE to watch Let’s Make a Deal?

          • Lindstr7

            LOL! It could be,….could thing it came on or I might get cited by the golf cart patrol!

          • rg9rts

            Maybe that explains Scott and Rubio

  • rg9rts

    Where is the cheese section??

    • phoebequeen

      Hey rg, right this way. I’ve found some lovely mice and varmint section. Just careful of the humans, they don’t sees us.

      • rg9rts

        Don’t worry I’m armed

        • Lindstr7

          My dog got a haircut yesterday. He’s all skinny now. Now my parents like him more because he reminds them of their bichon frise lol.

          • rg9rts

            As long as you don’t cut him like a lion

          • phoebequeen

            No, let him do it than we can sit and corner and laugh at him and throw beans at him.

          • Lindstr7

            I can tell you right now Paolo will not be intimidated by a bunch of felines! harrumph!

          • rg9rts

            Some day I”ll tell you the story of how MONSTA got his name.

          • Lindstr7

            Okay, but that’s not really a picture of your actual cat is it?

          • rg9rts

            Very close. 16 pound red oriental tabby

          • phoebequeen

            Tabbies can be, um, big boned if you will. Had one that got to be 19 pounds!

          • Lindstr7

            lol, very delicately put madam.

          • phoebequeen

            Well, sure cause, you don’t want to tick off big kitties.

          • rg9rts

            Mainecoon males weigh in at 25

          • Cynthia W.

            One of my tabbies is a mini. She’s still about 5 lbs, and is fully grown. She is so cute, and I know that I annoy her because I constantly pick her up and hug and kiss her. My other tabby is over 15 lbs, and is a love bug as well, but can’t tote her around as much.

          • rg9rts

            48 right now and Goldberg is lying again

          • Cynthia W.

            48 here too. This is weird. It seems to be the same every time we check it.

          • rg9rts

            Completely overcast and I saw a stupid effin robin today

          • Cynthia W.

            I heard a cardinal. Must be a hangout around here.

          • rg9rts

            They are year round Spring will be here when the buzzards arrive

          • rg9rts

            That was Ex #1′s excuse.

          • Lindstr7

            Time for the kitty treadmill rg.

          • phoebequeen

            That would be funny to watch.

          • phoebequeen

            Not being mean, just playful. Nice, nice, doggie {pat, pat, pat.} Just when he looks away, we steal his bone though! Can’t help it. It’s who we are.

          • rg9rts

            Mean streak I see

          • phoebequeen

            No, but when people groom their dogs to look like freaks, I’m offended.

          • rg9rts

            I tell the dog as I’m passing that he looks like Bert Lahr

        • phoebequeen

          You might want to holster that there piece cowboy. Might cause an international event!

      • geezer 56

        (Varmint section! Love it!)

        • Lindstr7

          Geeze! I said hi earlier but don’t think it went through. My phone died and I’m “tethering” my internet connection to my iPhone (are you impressed with my tech savvy-ness?) hows things? the back?

          • geezer 56

            The back is great now–thanks for asking! That only lasted a few days. Yes, I’m very impressed–I wouldn’t know how to use an iPhone, never mind tether it to the Internet.

  • Gin1234

    Thunder storms with lightening in February with a foot of snow on the ground. That’s just not right.

    • Lindstr7

      Armageddon! Arma gettin outta here!

      • Gin1234

        I’m gonna stay and face the dragons.

        • rg9rts

          Are you from Pern too???

          • Gin1234

            Penn? Yep.

          • Lindstr7

            Where in Penske? I’m from Pittsboig! and various other locales that a navy brat might be planted.

          • Gin1234

            Erie in the corner.

          • Lindstr7

            Omg. You are a brave one. Do you get hit hard from the lake or does the lake tame the weather in that corner?

          • Gin1234

            A lot of it isn’t lake effect this winter, but lake effect snow is bad. Once the Lake is frozen it is supposed to cut down on it, but this year the Noreasters are what have been worse. It’s been worse for you, too, hasn’t it. I don’t envy you on all those hills in the Pitts area. They are mighty steep.

          • Lindstr7

            Ah, worry not mein Gin. I’ve not lived in PA since 1978 lol. Am presently in FL (okay you can hate me now). And the weather is sublime (for now).

          • Gin1234

            Dang. I thought I had someone to cry with me. I don’t want to hear about sublime weather, right now. Thanks anyway.

          • phoebequeen

            Hey, I’m up here north of Syracuse in Lake Effect Capital of USA! Good thing we like snow, but after March, it gets old.

          • Gin1234

            I don’t like snow. It tortures me. Buffalo?

          • phoebequeen

            No, just north of Syracuse. I can see Canada from my porch! Kidding, just had to get a dig in at whats her name.

          • rg9rts

            Our dear Sarah???

          • phoebequeen

            Yep, what’s she been up to lately I wonder. Not really, but I do miss picking on her over at hp. That was fun.

          • rg9rts

            I imagine that they have roasts at Raw Story

          • phoebequeen

            I’m starting to like it there. I like commenting on news articles mostly.

          • rg9rts

            Me too, a rougher crowd and a little vulgar but that might be a generational thing, like tats and piercings.

          • Gin1234

            Do you still get lake effect that far out? Or is that still on the edge of the lake.

          • phoebequeen

            Yep, we are close to the lake and we get monster snow in the whole region. There are many resturants and bars called Lake Effect here. People are used to it and we have the plows and salt to deal with it.

          • rg9rts

            You pray for an early freeze over.

          • phoebequeen

            No, I’m not from here originally and actually like it. I am always so amazed that my flowers come back after being under so much snow.

          • rg9rts

            Snow is a VERY good insulator. Think of igloos

          • phoebequeen

            I know it acts like a comfy blanke. It is just so weird to see all these beautiful things come up where just 2 months earlier, all was right. Mother Nature at her finest and then, the dogs pee on them. Sigh.

          • Cynthia W.

            Yes, my car is parked in one.

          • rg9rts

            As long as the antifreeze is up to snuff and son-in-law arrives

          • Cynthia W.

            Antifreeze is good. Son in law will have to wait until the weather permits car diagnosis/repair. Now, it’s up to me and daughter/grandkids to dig out.

          • Richard M

            At least you’re on flat ground. South of ‘Cuse it’s mighty hilly.

          • phoebequeen

            Yeppers. Spend time all over the area. Really pretty though, especially finger lakes.

          • rg9rts

            Hammondsport and all the wineries

          • Richard M

            I was there for work, not sightseeing. Used to load Kraft at North Lawrence, up on Hwy 11. Then down to Watertown and on south.

            Interesting stretch there ‘tween Watertown and ‘Cuse. Buffalo is as bad though.

            Worst Lake Effect I ever saw was east of Cleveland on I-90. Four hours to go eight miles.

          • rg9rts

            PennYan

          • Richard M

            There was an aviation pioneer that stayed there, testing sea planes.

          • rg9rts

            Glenn Curtis.there is a museum in Hammondsport, did some boat work and eventually joined with the Wrights ….Curtis Wright Co,

          • Cynthia W.

            I’ll cry with you. This is the first time I’ve seen mountains in a parking lot.

          • Gin1234

            :) What looks even funnier is when they are still there in April, when everything else has melted. Mountains with a lot of dirt on them.

          • phoebequeen

            We have that here till late May ! My dog loves finding the late bit in the yard to do his business on for some strange reason.

          • rg9rts

            Because it isn’t yellow yet

          • phoebequeen

            That must be it. Or, brown which gives a whole new meaning to mud season.

          • rg9rts

            Had a dachshund that hated the wet and in the winter would make her deposits on the shoveled path one dachsy length apart

          • phoebequeen

            LOL!

          • Cynthia W.

            What’s awful now is the narrowness of the streets, no parking spaces, and the mountains you have to navigate just to cross the street.

          • Gin1234

            What city do you live in? NJ right?

          • Cynthia W.

            Clifton NJ

          • Richard M

            What? I thought you said you lived in Central Jersey? …I got arrested in Clifton once. I told RG about it, but he prolly doesn’t remember.

          • rg9rts

            You mean when the witch set you up???

          • Richard M

            Yup. They arrested me in Clifton and took me to Jersey City in Hudson County. So I had to take a cab back.

          • rg9rts

            Should have put a c note in your license. Hudson county. You saw malta has returned?

          • Richard M

            Yes, I was just talking to Sammy.

          • Cynthia W.

            Then you must have been arrested by Hudson county. Clifton is in Passaic county

          • Richard M

            Nope. It was Clifton. Thank’s to my ex’s lies they sent eight cops from Hudson and Passaic both to grab me.

          • rg9rts

            Probably said you were pistol packin

          • Unlisted2u

            Do we even want to know what the lie was..?

          • rg9rts

            No its sort of a guy thing you understand

          • Richard M

            Ex put the kids in the car, then left her door open. Then just before driving off, she called 911 and said I was there with a gun, drunk and on meth and threatening to kill them.

            Cops rush over find empty house. Then they come looking for me. Since she helpfully told them what motel I was at.

          • Unlisted2u

            Ouch..
            Did they do anything to her about that.. or was it back long enough ago that it was just an oh well..?

          • Richard M

            Nope. I asked them to, after the court dismissed the charges against me. Cops said “Domestic affair. We don’t get involved”. Cops also told me if I tried something similar I would be charged for filing a false police report.

          • Cynthia W.

            No–I said just the other day that I’m about 14 miles away from NYC, which is like another planet to me.

          • Richard M

            Is there another poster here from Central Jersey? I’m sure I remember someone saying that’s where they were.

            I remember it cause no one lives in Central Jersey. You’re either in N Jersey or S Jersey, or else on Jersey Shore.

          • rg9rts

            Wasn’t U2 from up there?

          • Richard M

            U2 is in Florida.

          • Unlisted2u

            Orig from SW PA..

          • TapestryMood

            Magna Dave lived in Jersey at one time…several of you and Dave had a long conversation one night all about Jersey and parks and trails and roads:-)

          • Cynthia W.

            Although used rarely, there is a portion referred to as central. The shore is south Jersey.

          • Cynthia W.

            You must have misbehaved.

          • rg9rts

            Oh no He has the honors of being married to the ………

          • Richard M

            I was framed, I tell ya!

          • Gin1234

            Well, all we can count on is that the March sun is warmer, and a little later in March, snow melts fast on the roads. Lots of times, in March, it snows in the morning but the roads are clear again by the afternoon.

          • Cynthia W.

            Right. This is just a winter gone wild this year.

          • rg9rts

            The sun is peeking at 6 and sooo much stronger than a couple weeks ago

          • Cynthia W.

            I saw just a bit of sun today, then it clouded over again. After this “heat wave” we return to the polar vortex and more snow, according to Al Roker

          • rg9rts

            Lets enjoy the weekend……is disqus getting sluggish for you?

          • phoebequeen

            Uh, oh.

          • Cynthia W.

            Not yet. Yesterday was really bad, but the signal was weak as well.

          • rg9rts

            I hit reply and it takes its time coming up with the box.

          • Cynthia W.

            You are right (correct). The box came up but the cursor was delayed.

          • Unlisted2u

            I’m slowin’ down already too..
            But we’re already at about 350 comments..
            That’ll start doin’ it.. at least on this ol’ machine..

          • rg9rts

            Might also be the dinner crush on the disqus system

          • Cynthia W.

            It’s got to be Disqus. But the dinner rush? It’s the rush hour right now, and most should be on the road.

          • rg9rts

            Can you see the car yet??

          • Cynthia W.

            Just a bit now.

          • rg9rts

            It supposed to rain soon maybe that will help unless you are a CVS store.

          • Cynthia W.

            There’s a few collapsed buildings in NJ. So far, no one was killed.

          • rg9rts

            I wonder if anyone learned not to put up those flimsy aluminum awnings.

          • rg9rts

            From the ac house to the ac car to the ac store and back

          • Richard M

            Unless you’re a kid, in which case you hardly notice it!

          • rg9rts

            Mom was no kid and had the door opener so the car was in the garage and not on broil in the sun

          • Richard M

            Next week it will be sublemonlime.

          • rg9rts

            That is called Pennsyltucky

          • Gin1234

            Hey, speak for your own state. Where’s that again?

          • rg9rts

            Confusion

          • Gin1234

            I’ve never been there.

          • rg9rts

            No passport needed

          • Winky Cat

            Thank you Gin1234!

          • Unlisted2u

            What?
            You orig from Picksboig..?!??!
            Mannnn, there’s a ton of us..
            Hamlet & I just figgered out a couple weeks ago we grew up about 7 miles away from each other.. lol! :D

          • rg9rts

            Pern is a place that has dragons

          • Gin1234

            Well apparently Penn does too.

          • rg9rts

            Ask Taps she is a big McCaffrey fan too.

          • Gin1234

            Not football, silly. Just talking about PA.

          • rg9rts

            Sifi really

          • TapestryMood

            MONSTA woke me across the cyber….said you used my name in a good way this time..lol…you are learning;-)

          • rg9rts

            Most of the time. The pain acting up?? Might as well amuse yourself till exhaustion kicks in. What about hubs?

          • TapestryMood

            Hmmm..if you say so;-) Has been acting up for days…severity is erratic…Oh, he is being a real PITA…nothing new there..lol….his frustration level is realllllly low these last few days, so I just go with the flow. Have fun!!

          • Richard M

            RG meant p*rn.

          • Gin1234

            That occurred to me.

  • Feisty

    Oops, just ripped my veil. Better go – - – see all you lovelies later!!

    • Lindstr7

      Laters Feisty! Great to see you.

    • phoebequeen

      See ya.

    • JasmineStarlight

      Bye Fiesty–those damn veils

    • rg9rts

      Tease

    • Lindstr7

      THat reminds me of a story…… at my girlfriends wedding….her brother’s got so drunk they were all smoking pot or something and lit her veil on fire. Lesson, don’t drink, get drunk and use open flames when the bride is covered in tulle.

      • rg9rts

        Almost like the clowns that sprayed silly string on the lucky couple and a candle on the table ignited it

        • Lindstr7

          Really! that stuff is flammable eh? (files away for future reference)

          • rg9rts

            It was frightening, they were both enveloped in flame.

      • phoebequeen

        Yikes. Is that on youtube yet?

    • Richard M

      Will you be Belly Dancing when you return?

  • Cougar90210

    They Might Be Giants – Istanbul (not Constantinople)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo0X77OBJUg

    • rg9rts

      MORON is here!!!!!! do we play again??

      • Cougar90210

        Eh, gotta go right now to get some exercise before it cools off. I had a little fun today over on Raw Story with some “moron” posting on a Ted Nugent thread. This one was difficult, though. Just kept making comments and would never respond – a genuine TROLL through and through. See you later.

        • rg9rts

          Later was there too. use the new to your network section to locate me if I’m posting and you want help.

          • Cougar90210

            Thx.

  • Richard M

    The use of military force by Ukraine’s President Yanukovych is unjustified. Slaughtering civilians with tanks and machine guns was a Crime against Humanity when the Nazis did it in the 1940′s.

    It was a Crime in Tiananmen Square in 1989. It was a crime when Ceausescu did it in Romania, and it was a crime when USG did it at Waco. Yanukovych should stand trial for his crimes.

  • gmb007

    I just posted this to Gidon over at House of Commas –

    Let the Great Buffalo Migration begin once again!!! *snort*

    We’re loud and adorable and irresistible, right, Gidon? LOL : )

    …OMG…I just realized we’re a buffalo herd stampeding into a BAZAAR!!!!!!!!!

    • phoebequeen

      Run!!

      • Lindstr7

        Lol, Pamploma. Another one for the bucket list.

      • Winky Cat

        Where’s MONSTA? Maybe we can hitch a ride on his back!

        • rg9rts

          Psssssftty

          • Winky Cat

            Good, here you are, please help the little kitties so they don’t get trampled on!

          • rg9rts

            I’m baby sitter?

          • Winky Cat

            No, you’re just helping us smaller felines safely make it through the Bazaar! Like a big handsome brother would!

          • Cynthia W.

            Right. My little Bits is tiny. She’s fast, though.

          • Winky Cat

            Hi Cynthia! I had a little cat named Gizmo, who could move like the wind!

          • Cynthia W.

            And the smaller they are, the more they get into.

          • Winky Cat

            So true! He got into everything!

        • phoebequeen

          Hey, Wiky! Just now saw you and on my way out again! Hope you like the new place.

          • Winky Cat

            Hey PhoebeQ! Love it! Already claimed a nice rug over in the corner for napping. See ya later

    • Lindstr7

      I’m a little out of the loop. Am I right in assuming we’re being herded from one room to another when the comments get too full?

      • Gin1234

        Yep.

      • rg9rts

        Disqus get dopey when the bin get too full

        • Lindstr7

          Ahhh got ya. I’ve noticed that.

          • rg9rts

            It’s around 15000

      • phoebequeen

        Give me your paw doggie, I’ll help.

  • Greta42

    Did anyone see this in Salon today? Interesting, Z portraying himself as a victim again!

    THURSDAY, FEB 20, 2014 4:00 PM UTC

    Angry crowd runs George Zimmerman out of Miami

    Trayvon’s killer had been filming interviews before meeting an aggressive response on the beach in Miami

    NATASHA LENNARD

    http://www.salon.com/2014/02/20/angry_crowd_runs_george_zimmerman_out_of_miami/?source=newsletter

    • rg9rts

      We chewed him up on raw story today

      • Greta42

        Aha! Will check that out. Amazing how his loyal supporters show up for these stories. Guess the NRA has plenty of money to hire the trolls.

        • rg9rts

          I don’t think there were many of those

          • Greta42

            There were a bunch at Salon – I don’t post there because they ask for too much information, so I just observed.

          • rg9rts

            Scarecrow 57

    • geezer 56

      Evidently bullies cherish their delusions of victimhood. Like this low-life POS, for instance, who says at the end of the article, “I am the victim because I made a mistake.” http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/20/tenn-official-threatened-blacks-with-skin-trophy-he-saved-from-1896-lynching/

      • Greta42

        I just read that article Geezer – and your description of him is in fact generous. What a throw-back to another time – and the SCOTUS claims racism is not a problem anymore!

    • chuckwhite

      Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.

    • apogee2perogee

      Exactly what a pariah deserves.

  • AskandTell

    In a surprising move, Gap Inc. informed its employees on Wednesday that it would set $9 as the minimum hourly rate for its United States work force this year and then establish a minimum of $10 next year. Gap said this move would ultimately raise pay for 65,000 of its 90,000 American employees, including those at Banana Republic, Old Navy and other stores.

    Gap is making this move as many states consider raising their minimum wage, and as Republicans and Democrats debate a bill that includes a proposed increase in the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour by 2016. President Obama has endorsed the increase, and has campaigned for it at stops around the country.

    In explaining the wage increases, Mr. Murphy told employees: “We work for a company with a strong set of values, which can be directly linked to our founders, Doris and Don Fisher. They invented specialty apparel retail, but Don also challenged us to live up to our promise to ‘do more than sell clothes. ” NYT

    • Greta42

      It’s a good beginning and courageous of Gap to do so. But until we establish a wage that will allow a worker to work 40 hours a week and make enough to pay for housing and food, we will still face the same problems of homelessness and hunger.

      • AskandTell

        They’ll had some bad PR recently and probably are reading the tea leaves that the minimum wage will be increased. Whatever the reason, hope others begin to follow suit and adjust their budget forecasts according.

    • Lindstr7

      Being a cynic, I see this as a pre-emptive move by Gap to cap the minimum wage at $9.00. Could be a brilliant move. If other’s follow suit it could make the bill seem unnecessary especially with an eye on 2016 raising again to $10. Just a thought.

      • AskandTell

        Maybe..although they have stated publicly they will raise it to $10 next year. Their employees will turn on them if they go back on their promise.

        • OneOtherPerson

          but doesn’t the fed min wage seek to tie it to cost of living?
          And I could be mistaken.

          • AskandTell

            Yes, that would start 2017 after starting with a base of $10.10 in 2016..

    • gmb007

      Whatever their corporate motives, there’s nothing ‘courageous’ (as Greta below mentioned) about a
      retail giant paying a semi-living wage instead of a poverty wage.

      Simply doing what one should do doesn’t make a hero.

      GAP gets zero praise from me.

    • cal haughtly

      Where were the strong set of values last year? Raising the minimum wage is popular and I would not be surprised if this move brings in business. By the way, does GAP sell clothes made in America?

  • nancy/still hopeful

    well…does this mean we won’t be partying in the House of Canada? hmmm…love this new locale-time for a change of culture! shopping for days!!!

    • Cynthia W.

      We may return to the HOC for videos and dancing later I guess the majority decides where to be serious and where to play.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        that’s all good with me-I will check out the shops here and see you all later! ;-)

    • rambot02

      Howdy, nancy/still hopeful. A mutual friend said I might find you here; I’m so glad that turns out to be the case.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        hey!!! how lovely is this-great to see you rambot, has been ages!
        happy that you are here and please thank our mutual friend! great place to catch many of our friends from other sites-they have been so welcoming here and drama free!!!
        how has the winter gone for you-you must have gotten nailed when I remember your locale!

        • rambot02

          Tabby Cat prowls about in SoCal, perhaps the one part of North American that is having a milder than usual winter. We are, however, in the third year of a terrible drought, and this is the dryest winter yet. There’s talk of changing the state song from “California Here I Come” to “How Dry I Am”.

          Short term, it’s much easier to deal with sunny and dry weather than bitter cold and paralyzing snowfall, so I’m not asking for any sympathy from my friends up north or back east. But Californians will pay for this with a bad fire season. And expect produce prices to rise.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            heh, here I thought you were in NY state! well…we both have had our share of nonsense over the last few months! I think it’s all relative and if it’s not great for you-you have every right to vent…extremes in any area aren’t a good thing and the repercussions of this drought will be felt in many places!

          • rambot02

            I wouldn’t vent, but the drought is terrible for Rural CA. There is no grass, and because many ranchers can’t afford to feed their livestock hay animals are simply being culled.

            Gotta get back to work (I’m still on the clock) so I’m outta here, but I look forward to seeing you, Fiesty, filo, Chesapeake Pirate, etc.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            lol, great you found us after the abrupt departure from the other place! see you!

      • Blue Eyed Bull

        Hey Rambot. Good to see you here.

        • rambot02

          Vice versa, B.E.B. I was told a lot of the old gang had migrated to this watering hole. Looks like I wasn’t misinformed.

          • Blue Eyed Bull

            I have no idea where a lot of people went to. I’ve heard people say they have run into friends at Raw Story and Salon. This people is comfortable for me to hang my hat on.

          • rambot02

            Anyplace you hang your hat is home…

            I’m new here but I like what I see so far. Good chat rooms — old friends and hopefully new — and an interesting array of articles. Looking forward to bumping into you again soon.

  • Unlisted2u

    Out for now..
    Early sammich din-din & off to poker..

    L8rz g8rz.. :)

    • phoebequeen

      Later.

  • Shang Tseezy

    a new club?
    who shot up the old one?

    • BungeeCord

      I heard it was Dave. He just couldn’t control himself when he found out that the Canadian Curlers won the gold.

      • Shang Tseezy

        LOL.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        that’s funny Bungee!!!
        can’t wait to see him tonight!!! the posts should be hilarious!

      • Richard M

        I heard Dave kicked his table over when the Canuck girls took the Hockey Gold. Candle lit the drapes on fire and that was the end for Agora.

        • BungeeCord

          Someone might want to check his vet records. Can hedgehogs get rabies?

          • Richard M

            I bet they can! Dave looked pretty wild last night!

          • TanzAtNite

            “wild”? Again??

          • BungeeCord

            Like feral wild.

    • nancy/still hopeful

      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      hello!!!

  • Blue Eyed Bull

    Is there another room or just this one?

    • Richard M

      Looks like this room replaces Agora. Public House, Happy Hour and House of Commas are still open.

      • Blue Eyed Bull

        Thanks Richard.

  • Gin1234

    Check this out. Maybe it’s a little slow moving for this group, but it made me happy.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/520503-100-year-old-bffs/

    • Feisty

      Me and Nancy in 60 years . . . Oops, I meant 70 years!! :)

      • nancy/still hopeful

        MWAH!!!
        I look forward to that! *raising tea cup!!!

        • Feisty

          Cheers!!! ;)

        • Gin1234

          You two sharing a tomb?

          • nancy/still hopeful

            oh you are so damned literal Gin!!

          • Feisty

            Aww Gin!! We have some “tea” for you too!! Drink up dear! (Psst Nancy, you go hide her calculator real quick!!)

          • Gin1234

            I am still sharp enough to do math in my head.

          • Feisty

            Not after you drink your *tea*!! Care for another cup?

          • Gin1234

            umm……no. I think that wouldn’t be wise.

          • Feisty

            Math and wisdom!! Damn girl!! You are a toughie – you ready to belly dance yet? I bet Nancy will join me now that Jasmine appears to be gone! Cmon girl!!

          • Gin1234

            I started dancing when you left. I am all tuckered out!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            done…not that it’s going to do much good!!
            she’s way too sharp!

          • Gin1234

            I’m sharp enough to know where you put it.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            I am so glad you aren’t my mother!!! that would have been no fun whatsoever!!!

      • Gin1234

        Nancy is my age. She will be 127 in 70 years. Nice try :)

        • nancy/still hopeful

          HEY!!! lmao…sigh

        • Feisty

          Sure there has to be a math major in every crowd . . .

  • Feisty

    Don’t forget to hit the favorite button to the right here – - – and read and comment on other articles. Here’s doozie, damn it is bad in the Ukraine. That president and his underlings has to go!!

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/520146-violence-erupts-in-ukraine-amid-truce-70-killed-with-500-wounded/?sidebar=related-below

    • Gin1234

      Thanks Feisty. I made a visit.

  • AskandTell

    GOP’s Social Security disaster: Conservatives just lost their chance to cut benefits

    The president dropping Chained CPI from his budget is a reprieve for the left — and a message to the right

    This is an important win for everyone and a continued message to the left to remain strong to the principles of the party.

    http://www.salon.com/2014/02/20/gops_social_security_disaster_how_conservatives_lost_their_chance_to_cut_benefits/

    • Gin1234

      I am really surprised that Obama did this. He has seemed determined since the beginning to bargain away social security in some way or another. During his campaign in 2008, 2 of his top economic advisers were major supporters of privatizing SS. I haven’t trusted him on this since day 1.

    • Feisty

      This is good news, thank A&T! Especially since there will be no Republican in the near future . . . at least.

    • cal haughtly

      That is good news. I don’t like the concept of SS being considered a lefty agenda item though. We need to begin thinking about certain things as neither or we will eventually lose them.

      • AskandTell

        Good thought but it will require erasing at least 50 years of the Right trying to end social security. Citizens need to understand and accept that there is a party with an established platform of ending all social programs which include social security and Medicare.

        • cal haughtly

          I agree…on the other hand how many rank and file republicans really want to give up their SS and Medicare? This is more about up/down than left /right and even Republicans used to know enough to keep their hands off of the third rail. A handful of very wealthy people are leading the charge to get rid of SS and they are doing quite well at it. Both sides of the aisle are buying in…check out ‘Peterson economic summit” some time. Ezra Klein may have written some on it. Pete Peterson has spent half a billion of his own money trying to take away our entitlements and even Bill Clinton goes to his events.

          • AskandTell

            None want to give it up but the fear mongering of the programs going bankrupt has worked in making many citizens confused and scared. Democrats need to speak clearly and decisively that this is an outright lie.

          • cal haughtly

            Yes…David Gregory also goes to Peterson events as does Andrea Mitchel, Harold Ford, etc. They don’t exactly call it a lie either and it is….they like to say ‘the adults in the room know something has to be done on entitlements.” Then they give the wrong solution-fact is our entitlements need to be more generous in order to meet future needs…thanks to the death of pensions and many other things. I’m just troubled saving SS from being cut is perceived as a victory for a left that is left of a Democratic President.

    • Gin1234

      Obama did this because the mid-terms are coming up and he doesn’t want his actions to count against them in the election, and heighten the chance that we would loose the House or the Senate. That is no assurance that he won’t go back to it again. I don’t think he reversed it because it is a Democratic value.

      • AskandTell

        I don’t agree. Obama has compromised when Republicans held another social program or the debt ceiling over his head. This time he has the upper hand.

        • Gin1234

          What gives him the upper hand, and why did he compromise before, if it is done out of principle? I think he does what he thinks he needs to do, regardless of principle, to get through.

        • cal haughtly

          How many times has Obama put SS on the table? What if the republicans took the offer?

  • Canukistani

    Evenin’ folks. I’m just passing through this time, but here’s something that I thought might deserve a bit of attention.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/520905-sandy-housing-recovery-program-makes-promises-it-finds-hard-to-deliver/

    • Toastman

      New digs. I wonder if we will trash it as quickly as we did Canada?

      • Canukistani

        Oh, it’s still in good enough shape to host a party or two or three.

    • Feisty

      Wow, that kind of stuff is so exhausting. So much corruption and greed and the ppl that really need help get screwed (excuse my French).

      • Canukistani

        Yeah, it goes that way far too often, as far as I’m concerned. I gotta be out for a bit but I should be back later.

        • Feisty

          See ya Caunki!!

  • escribacat

    I am marveling at the efforts of rightwing pundits to rationalize and justify the recent statements of Ted Nugent. It says a lot that they don’t express any outrage whatsoever.

    • Feisty

      I haven’t read a simple morsel of that story. I’ll need an antiemetic first. That “man” is despicable and is just looking for attention now.

      • escribacat

        Agreed. It bothers me that he is actually treated like a legitimate contributor to the political conversation in this country.

        • nancy/still hopeful

          lol, their frontman…what does that tell you about them? that THEY are total cowards and will use anyone they can to spread their spew…

        • jbiot

          Actually, as vulgar and low level primate as Nugent’s “mongrel” comment was (it wasn’t the first or the worst) – Abbott’s response was even more despicable.

          Everyone knows that Nugent is nothing more than a pair of shoes attached to an an*l cavity and a brain stem. But Abbott, an attorney general, condemned Wendy Davis for her association with Obama rather then condemn Nugent for his racist comments about a sitting President of the United of America.

          And make no mistake: Nugent, and his sock puppet of a love slave Abbott, are racists.

          Let’s call it for what it is and stop pretending otherwise.

          Ditto for the entire knuckle dragging clan of Republicans.

          Oops! did I say clan? Freudian slip!

          • Feisty

            Ted could get Gandhi riled up!!

          • jbiot

            Ted makes Ghengis Khan look like Mother Teresa.

          • Feisty

            Ted could make Jesus cuss!!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            ‘Clan of the Cave Bear’ is the Republican’s ‘how to’ anytime they are unsure how to behave! You nailed it!

          • jbiot

            You have a wry and subtle way with language nancy – you remind me of Gail Collins in the NYT. When you have your A-game goin’ I think you sometimes nudge past her.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            what a lovely compliment jbiot! thanks!
            I had to look her up-I think you are exaggerating, but who am I to refuse such praise! ;-) )

          • jbiot

            No, not really.

            Read her column today when you get a chance. I think you’ll see that you both have a very similar sense of humor and a similar way of constructing a thought.

            http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/opinion/collins-the-least-we-can-do.html.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            thanks…have her on an open tab to check out later!

          • escribacat

            Yes, that is the problem. They have “legitimized” the racist creeps who used to mutter his filth in dark corners of sleazy bars.

          • jbiot

            Legitimized them! It’s worse than that.

            They put them on pedestals and idolize them.

            They call them “role models”!

    • Cougar90210

      Are they also trying to justify his comments in 2007 when he went onstage decked out in camo, wielding two machine guns, and said:
      “Obama, he’s a piece of $#!_. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless b*^ch.”

      Comments like that are perfectly justifiable, eh?

      • Feisty

        That is absolutely despicable and every politician and thinking human being should distance themselves as far as possible from Ted.

        • Cougar90210

          He is an absolute piece of you-know-what. He has not one, not a single redeeming quality. I try to be understanding, and I believe in treating people with respect. But this “human”(?) deserves nothing. He is, as you said, despicable.

          • Feisty

            The only chuckle I get is picturing Daffy Duck calling him that.

            Sorry I ever listened to one note of his music. He is a shallow and soul less individual – truly deserving of what you called him Mr Cougar.

          • Cougar90210

            Oh, I will never listen to another note of anything he did.

          • Feisty

            There is one type of gun rights I am for and that is arming the animals and putting Ted and Sarah in a shooting gallery. Seems like justice to me. It’s a lovely thought . . .

          • Cougar90210

            Were you ever a Gary Larson / Far Side fan? God, I loved his stuff – I had an entire wall of my office when I was a high school asst. principal covered in Far Side cartoons. Some of my favorites (well, they were ALL my favorites, but …) were when he would have the animals turning the tables on the hunters. Yes, Ted and Sarah in fur coats versus armed deer, bears, wolves would be sweet.

          • Feisty

            We have a huge library of Gary Larsen – love his humor. I shamelessly “borrowed” from him when I posted
            “The real reason the dinosaurs went extinct – they formed a Tea Party”.
            Yeah I would really love for some of those hunter role reversal cartoons to star Sarah and Ted, as well as a few other nominees. Funny stuff – gotta find the humor.
            This song came on my itunes while I was running today and I though of you – kinda poppy and not your usual fare, but a spirit lifter:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq7BsBRWSa4

            It’s a good one to run to!!

          • Cougar90210

            That’s a perfect running song (or in my case, jogging song, once I get all healed up – I have walked about 3 miles every day for the past week, though). Anything that gets my booty shaking is good in my book.

          • Feisty

            Keyboard high five!! Awesome!! Get that Cougar booty shaking!! Here’s one I love right now – probably a rerun, but seems appropriate – and gets the booty a going!!
            ww.youtube.com/watch?v=XkcGuZHPbKk

          • Cougar90210

            Can you try posting that one again? I keep getting a “Can’t Find Server” message when I click on the link. You have me all excited about this song, and now I can’t find it.

          • Feisty
          • Cougar90210

            I do like that. I do. I do. I even think this old dog could learn some of those dancin’ tricks from that kid. All I have to do is get a few drinks in me, and I’m a dancin’ fool.

          • Feisty

            Yeah!! I am always a dancing fool, no drinks needed!! Love the uptempo stuff too!

          • Cougar90210

            Oh, I’m saving it to add to my collection. The lead singer’s voice reminds me of someone. I just can’t remember exactly who right now.

          • Feisty

            I like him too, at times he makes me think of Tim Curry from Rocky Horror Picture Show.

          • Cougar90210

            I can see that.

          • escribacat

            Oh I used to love Far Side.

          • Cougar90210

            I felt like we had a death in the family when he stopped doing those cartoons. But I have to say that I can understand how the pressure must have become tremendous on him to keep coming up with stuff as time went on. But man, he was so good – quirky, with such neat twists.

            Another one of my favorites showed this toothless hound on a tightrope riding a bicycle and juggling some balls. The caption was something like: “And then it hit Jeffrey that, after all, he was an old dog, and this was a new trick.” I appreciate that one more and more every day.

          • escribacat

            Did you ever see B. Kliban’s work? Very like Gary Larsen but darker (and before Larsen). One of my favorites was “Nixon Monument,” a drawing of people looking down into a pit.

          • Feisty

            LMAO!!!! Don’t even need the cartoon! That’s great!!

          • Cougar90210

            Oh, that’s me just about every day anymore.

          • Cougar90210

            No, I don’t think so. I’ll have to do some research on him(?).

          • escribacat

            It’s a he and he died quite a few years ago. Very interesting man who went around in a big black cape. He wrote “Never eat anything bigger than your head” and a bunch of cartoon books about cats. He was cat obsessed. Very very funny and biting humor.

          • Cougar90210

            I may have seen some of his stuff, but I’ll definitely follow up. Thanks.

          • alleypanther

            Do you know where I can find the one of the buck deer screwin’ the hunter and the caption said; .”.Here’s your deermeat M’tr F’kr!!”

          • Cougar90210

            Can’t help you right now, but if I run across it, I’ll send it your way for sure.

          • alleypanther

            Thanks, I’m a big fan of his. Ya’ll are gonna get wet!

          • Cougar90210

            True that. I just hope the trees stay in one piece – and in the ground.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        funny how when it’s being said to Sarah Palin-people have to region!
        evening Cougar!

        • Cougar90210

          Evening, Nancy.
          It’s sad to think that people like him even exist …. but they do.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            that he gets away with it is more disheartening! what are we coming to that this is allowed to be happening in the first place!!!

          • Cougar90210

            Yes, it is truly disheartening that anyone would be willing to affiliate themselves with, or defend, such insanity.

    • Gin1234

      Look at their reaction to Limbaugh, and his diatribes, especially in the last election when he called Sandra Fluke a s**t in the middle of an election. None of them, including Muttt would admit that it was inappropriate. They have a code of silence, and will never admit that any of theirs say anything wrong. It plays out time after time.

    • Gin1234

      This is a perfect example of how two faced they are, and how they are such victims all the time. http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/520626-ted-cruz-to-address-friends-of-abe-secret-conservative-group/

  • nancy/still hopeful

    haven’t used the ‘b-word’ in ages…seeing the Ted Nugent stories lately makes me want to scream it out loud…BAGGER!!!! there are other words, many other words, to call this man-but then I’d be just like him.

    • Feisty

      I’ll bet even the pope calls Ted bad names.

      • Gin1234

        Like a “sinner”?

        • Feisty

          Like future hell dweller.

          • Cougar90210

            Ooh, ooh, I feel a song coming on.

            Driving & Crying – Straight to Hell

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJDH76zY2IE

          • Feisty

            Liking it and it’s topical too!! Great choice!

          • Cougar90210

            Well, your comment brought it straight to my mind.

          • Feisty

            Who knew I could be so influential? Glad you made the connection.

          • escribacat

            Dwelling in his body and soul would be hell.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        has to Feisty-under his breath, and we all think he’s praying!

        • Feisty

          Indeed!! LOL!

    • Shang Tseezy

      paedophile is an apt word for ted.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        mamma’s don’t let your children grow up to be Ted Nugent’s-or be anywhere near him!

        • Shang Tseezy

          that should be on a fortune cookie.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            bumper sticker worthy, Shan?

    • Cougar90210

      Nancy, you could say an awful lot of stuff that was pretty nasty, and you could do it for a pretty long time, and you would NEVER be “just like” that pile of toxic waste.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        awe thanks Cougar-that’s a good point…
        *stands up and starts name calling, cursing and swearing, while smiling big!

        • alleypanther

          10101110100 00101110110001 101010 101 01011000 11000

          • nancy/still hopeful

            lmao…hey! ;-)

    • apogee2perogee

      Personally, I don’t think Thud is worth the outrage. He and the people who follow him thrill to that. I agree with jbiot, as he posts down below. What’s really despicable is the people who give him a pass or drag him out into the light and use him for self promotion.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        all involved are mind blowing to me-especially when anything even hinting of this kind of slam is said to /about the republicans-their responses are over the top!!! outrage at it’s finest by the ‘drama queen’ party!

      • Cougar90210

        Hey, A2P! I have a song for you – and a pretty good little video, too, imho. I’m guessing you’re familiar with this artist, given your musical interests. A lot of people I know are kind of put off by her “twangy” voice at first, but I love her. AND she is a politically active, very smart lady.

        Iris Dement – Let the Mystery Be

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlaoR5m4L80

        • Feisty

          Variety is good. I really enjoyed that!

          • Cougar90210

            I’m glad you liked it. I’ll post another one that shows her political “attitude.” I think she wrote it during the Bush years, but it still resonates. You can listen to it if you like.

            Iris Dement – Wasteland of the Free

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqDpL0YCvI

          • apogee2perogee

            Now those are some mighty frank lyrics. Pretty honest appraisal too, if you ask me. In case anyone cares to read them, since I already looked them up.

            http://www.absolutelyrics.com/lyrics/view/iris_dement/wasteland_of_the_free/

          • Cougar90210

            Yep, just an “old country girl” telling it like it really is. You gotta appreciate that, imo.

          • apogee2perogee

            Yes indeed, and just like she says in the song, “that seems pretty d+mned American to me”. Here’s a protest song that seems timeless to me, unfortunately, from Steve Earle ‘Harlan Man’.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKB16X8udPI

          • Feisty

            Bookmarked – I really like the music and the ‘tude!!

        • apogee2perogee

          That’s the original type of ‘house music’ ! I came to enjoy that sort of music a whole lot more when I hung out with acoustic music pickers. Those house parties were so much fun.

          • Cougar90210

            You can kind of tell that there’s some talent in that room.

          • apogee2perogee

            Yes, even tho’ it is subtle. There is a charm in that, to my perception anyway. The fellow pickin’ the black guitar snuck in just a few little triplet flashes, in perfect rhythm, that lets you know how much horsepower he’s got in those fingers.

    • Richard M

      I suspect this is a result of Ted’s obscurity as a performer. The only way he can get publicity, and in his mind relevance, is to make outrageous statements.

      It’s a lot like an online troll who barges onto a page, shouting threats and obscenities. Publicity and notoriety is what he wants.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        they are a match made in hell…the perfect fall guy for their vile spew.
        he’s like that kid ‘Mikey’ and food…Ted will say anything while everyone stands around watching to see if he lives or not!

      • escribacat

        Yes, he is a troll.

    • allison1050

      Like Quitter Palin I don’t understand why anyone in the media would pay attention to Chicken Hawk Nugent..

      • nancy/still hopeful

        must be that whole train wreck phenomena for many-the ones that really baffle me are his supporters!!! what kind of person are you that finds that pathetic show of humanity, worthy of more than your disgust?

      • escribacat

        Same reason we can’t help looking at car wrecks on the freeway.

        • allison1050

          I believe it’s because the so called media finds it easier to report on nothing rather than spend time researching and reporting on real news information.

        • allison1050

          I don’t look at car wrecks ’cause I used to work in nursing.

  • filo

    Say…What’s with the name? This place isn’t so bizarre.

    Some of the people here maybe…

    • Feisty

      A few of us are though!! FILO!! Hello!!

      • filo

        Present company excepted Feisty.

        How are you?

        • Feisty

          Terrific!! Able go for a run today instead of snowhike – snow is melting quickly – is it doing the same in your neighborhood?

          • filo

            It’s melting a little but not fast enough to suit me.

    • nancy/still hopeful

      a new cultural experience for us-I have gone on a real shopping adventure today!!!
      how are you filo?

      • filo

        I’m doing good and you? So what’s the purpose of this room?

        • nancy/still hopeful

          we keep loading up the other ones! this is the same as all the other ‘free for all’ rooms they have given us to play in…Feisty is doing belly dancing up ahead…music, chat and whatever else strikes your fancy!

          • filo

            Cool! I wasn’t sure if I should post music.

            Party on Garth.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            go for it filo-you always bring lots of great music where ever you are!

          • filo

            I just posted belly dancing music for Feisty.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            I am listening to it right now! love it!

          • Feisty

            Stretching . . . be right there!

  • Feisty

    Scrumptious tune:

    Addicted to You Avicii

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCBE796iILs

    • nancy/still hopeful

      what a great song-quirky voice, like it!!

      • Feisty

        Quirky is MUCH better than twerky!! ;)

        • escribacat

          LOL. I’m glad I’m not the only one who would be happy never to see a “twerk” again. Ever.

          • Feisty

            EVAH!! And I only saw snippets.

          • escribacat

            Me too. I saw a news report about Miley twerking at something or other awards show. That view was enough to last a lifetime.

        • nancy/still hopeful

          and jerky, too!

    • filo

      That was nice. I never heard of her before but I lead a very sheltered life.

      • Feisty

        I don’t that much about them except I really like the song.

  • allison1050

    Wow!! I like the new digs!

    • Feisty

      We were belly dancing earlier? Should we resume now that you are here?

      • filo
        • alleypanther

          Hey Filo! What’s the deal?! ..We have to supply our Own Belly Dancer???!

          • filo

            Feisty already volunteered. She goes on in ten minutes.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            the warm up has just started…link below this post.

          • Feisty

            Just stitching up the veil I tore earlier – - – be there in a sec!!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            don’t rush…the warm up act is on…

          • nancy/still hopeful

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLLXUaqZxg

            here ya go panther…Santana

          • alleypanther

            That’s Mo Better! {;~)

          • nancy/still hopeful

            she can sure move-beautiful!

          • alleypanther

            Both of those things!

      • allison1050

        I’m ready to dance the night away!

      • allison1050

        Why yes Feisty!

  • AskandTell

    Matt Taibbi Slams David Gregory: ‘I Don’t Know How He Can Call Himself A Journalist’

    How great is Matt Taibbi calling out Gregory for the partisan hack that he is.

    David Gregory, for example, asked Greenwald last June, “To the extent that you have aided and abetted Snowden, even in his current movements, why shouldn’t you, Mr. Greenwald, be charged with a crime?”

    On Thursday, Taibbi called Gregory’s tone towards Greenwald “outrageous.”

    “I don’t know how he can call himself a journalist and talk like that,” he said. “Look, this is the job. The job is we’re supposed to report the truth. If whistle blowers come forward, we’re supposed to take the risk along with those whistleblowers and society long ago decided we should have protections when we do this.”

    “Modern journalists just don’t recognize how serious it is,” Taibbi added.

    • Feisty

      Matt is spot on.

    • alleypanther

      I can’t watch ” Meet this Mess ” anymore.

      • AskandTell

        I can’t either. I remember Gregory when he was a regular on Don Imus on MSNBC. His character and pompous attitude shone through every morning. His conceit used to be a running joke.

        • alleypanther

          I didn’t know he was on Imus.

        • RockyMissouri

          I used to enjoy that show…

      • allison1050

        I haven’t in more than a year.

      • cal haughtly

        I can’t watch either.

    • cal haughtly

      Nearly every media outlet on the left has written about Gregory being a Peterson austerity disciple…wonder who paid for his conversion to super patriot?

      • AskandTell

        Isn’t that the movement that hides behind the name of “No Label?”

        • cal haughtly

          I thought No labels people like Joe Scarborough and Mika just wanted to get rid of hyper partisanship?

          • AskandTell

            It’s instructive to learn who funds political efforts. Anti-Social Security billionaire Pete Peterson, the guy who funded Unity08, then Americans Elect, is one person behind No Labels. Its co-founders are Republican Party operative Mark McKinnon, right-leaning political operative Nancy Jacobson and billionaire-funded operative David Walker, whose work with Peterson has been dedicated for many years to the pursuit of a policy package that would cut Social Security and Medicare benefits while lowering the top tax rate for the wealthiest Americans. Joe Lieberman is an eager No Labeler. Former Portsmouth mayor Steve Marchand was briefly with No Labels until he found out what it really was.

          • cal haughtly

            Yikes…didn’t know about Peterson being involved in this. Last I heard No Labels had no money ( about a million dollars) and Charly Christ was living the No Labels dream…or all labels dream whatever.

    • Cougar90210

      Matt Taibbi is a “journalist,” and he has principles. David Gregory is a mouthpiece, an empty suit.

    • apogee2perogee

      One would hope the fractionation of media into multiple narrow points-of-view would also create a fraction focused on real journalism. Taibbi is certainly more journalist than the vast majority. I think it would be good to see a number of the serious journalists coalesce into a single media outlet.

      • AskandTell

        I agree. Greenwald and Taibbi now working together will be a powerful force. Taibbi’s editor from Rolling Stone has also joined Greenwald which Taibbi said made the decision easier.

        There are also great journalists from the NYT IMO.

        • apogee2perogee

          It’s a nucleus. We can only hope.

    • Shanti108

      I cannot watch MTP. David Gregory makes my skin crawl and my stomach cramp up. His smarmy attitude while pretending to be objective and being instead transparently biased just irritates the h__ out of me. If you are going to insult my intelligence by trying to trick me, please at least be ha

  • Cougar90210

    Okay, for what it’s worth, I have to go watch the Carolina vs Duke basketball game. Duke will probably romp my Heels, but I gotta support my boys. In case I don’t make it back, here you go.

    The Shirelles – Mamma Said

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQlImg2bm28

    • Feisty

      Sounds like a blast!! See ya!!

    • apogee2perogee

      Go Heels ! seeya soon

  • AskandTell

    Paul Nunziato, head of the 1,300 member Port Authority police union, is recusing himself as president until further notice. Nunziato admitted in emails to working with Wildstein on the lane closures.

    More recently questions have been raised about whether union leaders were involved in the initial coverup of the actual lane closures.

    http://cliffviewpilot.com/source-port-authority-pba-chief-in-bridgegate-scandal-temporarily-stepping-aside/

    • Feisty

      Just how far is this going to extend? So baffling.

      • filo

        …and how long is this going to go on?

        Stick a fork in Christie, he’s done.

        • Feisty

          And then stand back – -

          • apogee2perogee

            Anything else just wouldn’t be safe. I’m thinking a robotic arm holding the fork….

          • filo

            That might just work.

          • filo
          • nancy/still hopeful

            LMAO… oh my…

          • Feisty

            Perfect!! I am thinking a Hazmat suit should be required attire!!

          • nancy/still hopeful
          • Canukistani

            Like sticking a spike in the Hindenburg.

      • cal haughtly

        The engineers must have approved the plan so maybe they are next. Just shutting down lanes improperly is potentially damaging given that the bridge needs a billion dollars to fix suspender cables, has a history of cracked stringers…needs emergency repairs for road plates shifting.

        • AskandTell

          In their testimony to the committee in December under oath, the chief engineers testified they did not approve the plan and would never shut down lanes for traffic studies. They were fearful for their jobs if they didn’t go along.

          • apogee2perogee

            Good for them. They will survive to continue their professional practice.

          • AskandTell

            After their testimony, it was obvious they work within a dysfunctional work organization in which moral is very low. Working in an environment where engineering and doing your best isn’t appreciated; political games rule the Port Authority.. This was brought up by the Committee as a point that must be addressed

          • apogee2perogee

            Yes, scientists and engineers often get disgusted when decision making becomes corrupted and goes off the reasoned path. It can kill moral, and especially when you have a group of highly capable practitioners.

          • AskandTell

            And your point is well taken….as Professional Engineers, they would be expected to sign off on commissioning projects as they oversee the work of numerous disciplines of engineering firms.

          • cal haughtly

            Didn’t know that. That is interesting….personally, I wouldn’t do anything that changed the way the bridge is operated without an Ok from an engineer that understood suspension bridges rated structurally deficient.

        • apogee2perogee

          Wow. It seems to me that they could be subject to malpractice litigation if those things weren’t considered in any approval. That’ll put some pressure on someone who wants to keep their license, hopefully.

          • cal haughtly

            Yep…Ask seems to have the answer on this.

  • filo

    Nice place you got here. I’n gonna’ say Good Night as I fade….

    Into The Mystic – Van Morrison

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVAnlke_xUY

    • nancy/still hopeful

      catch ya later filo!

  • alleypanther

    Bill O’Rielly’s harassing the Girl Scouts now, …If he inhibits by so much as One day the delivery of thin mints he will receive a JuJu so severe pubic hair will grow profusely and uncontrollably from his nose ending his broadcast career!

    • nancy/still hopeful

      love them with coffee…actually I love them with anything or even all by themselves!

      • alleypanther

        They’re a gift from Mother Earth! {;~)

        • nancy/still hopeful

          oh I see you love them as much as I do!!!

          • alleypanther

            emmm hemmm!!

          • alleypanther

            They really are awesome with coffee.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            now I want some….damn.

          • alleypanther

            I will about 3-4 in the morning, …but, I think there’s some chocolate/raspberry rugula in there. ..he he

          • nancy/still hopeful

            I don’t think I have any sinful, delicious things in the house…hmmm-why did I let that happen?

          • alleypanther

            I don’t normally but today was a Costco day and they make good stuff in their bakery, ..a splurge.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            good for you Panther!!! are you enjoying food more now that you can taste it?

          • alleypanther

            Well, I could always taste it, ..shrug..I can’t tell much difference, ..but, ..I’m breathing easier and that chronic bronchitis is gone and has been for 2 weeks. Today is 1 month since I got out of the hospital and 37 days without smoking.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            good for you-that is so great!!! the breathing easier must be such a relief…I noticed the difference in taste almost immediately.
            wonderful!

          • alleypanther

            I can Hear a lot better though! …..;)

          • nancy/still hopeful

            are you playing here? really?

          • alleypanther

            {;~) just kiddin’…

          • nancy/still hopeful

            I thought so…refrained from being a smart** just incase!!

  • FaunaAndFlora

    Howdy Folks.

    Crazy weather going on. This was the first day it got above freezing since maybe the USA Thanksgiving. Made it all the way up to 46 F. Now there’s some thunder and lightning going on. Rain too. Probably gonna be a big mess in morning since there was still over a foot of snow on the ground when the sun was setting.

    • nancy/still hopeful

      Dave will be so jealous! he loves weather like this…nutty stuff going on!

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Hey, Nancy. Hope you’re doing fine this evening.

        • nancy/still hopeful

          I am F/F…you as well?
          safe and snug hopefully!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Very safe and very snug.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            good-these extremes are so dangerous when they do ice, rain and snow all in the same day!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Yep. Good not to wander too far, eh?

          • nancy/still hopeful

            I really like viewing if from the inside! for sure!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Just fill the bird feeders and watch Nature on Parade from the warmth of the indoors.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            they are something aren’t they! glad I’m not them this time of year!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            :-)

      • MagnaDave

        Sigh… Almost 80 degrees and sunny today. Sigh…

        Sigh…

        • nancy/still hopeful

          speaking of heavy sighs…the Canadian Women’s CURLING team took gold!!!
          now you have more reasons to sigh!
          I sent you snow pics today…

          • MagnaDave

            The hockey team, too. Stupid goalpost being in the way, lol.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            wasn’t that a nail biter of a game…the Canadian goalie out of her net and letting a shot in…wow.

          • MagnaDave

            I just saw the highlights on the news. Or, for us, the lowlights.

            Congratulations, though. Amazing comeback!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            not really, but thanks-both teams are formidable, they are well matched!

        • Canukistani

          Hi Dave! Haven’t seen you in a bit. I hope all is well.

          • MagnaDave

            Doing OK. And you? I think I showed up right after you signed out last night.

          • Canukistani

            Waiting to talk behind my back, eh. Actually if you were just a few minutes later tonight I would have been gone too.

          • MagnaDave

            You know it’s always a pleasure!

            Defending myself takes up all my time lately, lol.

          • Canukistani

            Maybe you need to learn to run faster!

          • MagnaDave

            ♬♪ Brave Sir Dave, bravely running away! ♩♬

    • Canukistani

      We’re due for freezing rain here tonight or tomorrow.

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Are you in Ontario, Canuk?

        • Canukistani

          Yup. The nation’s capital. I just saw on the weather network that it’s raining in Toronto so it’ll probably be here by morning at the latest.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            That’s beautiful country. My favorite place to go camping is an island in the Ottawa River about 30 miles east of Pembroke.

          • Canukistani

            Yeah, it’s very nice country. Nice weather most of the year too … except for now.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            I don’t mind this weather too much. It’s the heat that gets me.

          • Canukistani

            I don’t like either extreme, but I’m very happy in the middle – Spring and Fall are best.

          • MagnaDave

            We have Summer and Not Summer here. I miss the 4 seasons.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Northern California?

          • MagnaDave

            Eastern South Carolina, near the coast.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            That’s some beautiful country. Definitely a Summer/Not-Summer kind of place.

          • MagnaDave

            It’s OK but I miss the west and the northeast.

          • geezer 56

            Just so long as you don’t have “Summer Teef”–summer there, and some aren’t.

          • Canukistani

            I like 4 seasons too. I just wish the extremes of summer and winter weren’t so, uh, extreme.

          • MagnaDave

            That’s better than hot and not quite as hot, though.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            The first week of October on an island in the Ottawa… that’s my idea of heavenly weather. :-)

          • Canukistani

            Yeah! I’m with you on that!

          • MagnaDave

            80 degrees here today. Yuk!

    • Shang Tseezy

      sounds like maryland

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Sounds like you folk on the east coast have been getting slammed pretty hard this year.

    • apogee2perogee

      Crazy here too. Crawled out of the freezer over the past few days, temps in the 50′s. Today 75 at 3 pm, now 40, 30 overnight.

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Missouri, right?

        • apogee2perogee

          Yes, and very windy too at 40+ mph.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            That could get scary, especially coming in to spring.

          • apogee2perogee

            Some minor damage ’round the area. We have sirens for tornadoes and I keep an eye on the forecast. I don’t get uptight until there’s a storm rotation on radar nearby.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Do you have a storm cellar?

          • apogee2perogee

            I have a basement and a small room in a corner of it that functions as one.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            Good. Stay safe. I hope Tornado Season isn’t too bad this year. Seems like there have been some real killer storms within the last few years.

          • apogee2perogee

            Thanks Fauna.

    • Gin1234

      That is exactly how the weather is at my house today in PA. Thunder and lightening, with a foot of snow on the ground.

      • FaunaAndFlora

        You must have sent it my way! Usually the storms go in the opposite direction.

        • Gin1234

          Had to get rid of it somehow.

          • FaunaAndFlora

            You can take it back now. ;-)

    • BungeeCord

      Hi F/F. We already had at least a foot of snow on the ground and today brought us rain, sleet, snow, hail, lightning, thunder and now wind gusts up to 60mph!

      • MagnaDave

        Stupid 80 degrees, calm and sunny here.

        Wanna trade?

        • BungeeCord

          Yes.
          Horrible weather for your curling obsession – I’ll take one for the team.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            well done-you are a true hero Bungee!! selfless ;-)

          • BungeeCord

            Hi Nancy! Not entirely selfless – a few weeks of 80 degrees might start to melt the igloo that engulfed my mailbox sometime last year. lol

          • nancy/still hopeful

            nutty eh…I just once again had to shovel my way out of the house this morning!!!
            wouldn’t that be lovely for a while…

        • Richard M

          Yuck it up now, Dave. In a few months it’s 90 degrees with 90% humidity for five consecutive months. We will we see who is doing the yucking then!

          • MagnaDave

            That’s exactly what I don’t like about it here.

          • Richard M

            You’re no daisy, Johnny Ringo.

      • FaunaAndFlora

        Well, you can keep that mess. ;-)

        Are you on the east coast?

        • BungeeCord

          South-central WI. It got up to 47 degrees F yesterday and everyone was driving around with their windows down.

          • Richard M

            Big Arctic blast, heading your way! Close windows now!

          • BungeeCord

            No kidding. Next week is supposed to go right back to where we were in January. This week was just a tease.
            I think that once the holidays and the Superb Owl are over, we should be able to hit FFWD.

          • Richard M

            LOL! The space between the Superb Owl and March Madness should definitely be FFWD!

          • BungeeCord

            When I was in 3rd grade we got 10″ of snow on May 5th.
            I only remember the specifics because our teacher had us take a picture with a sign that had the date on it while we were out for recess.
            A few years ago the air temp was -13F on March 13th and the windshield on my car cracked.
            Yet I still look forward to March because at least it isn’t February!

          • Richard M

            In first grade, teach had us “compose” a song to honor John Glenn.

            John Glenn, flew into orbit. John Glenn, flew into orbit. John Glenn flew into orbit, early one Sunday mor-nin.

            So B’Gawd I recall the launch date was a Sunday!

          • FaunaAndFlora

            You’re in my part of the country… just across Lake Michigan. (I drove around with my windows down too.)

  • Shanti108

    By the way, the streets of Kiev are running red with blood. Ordinary people in the center of Europe just being gunned down by their government. Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych could stop all the bloodletting just by stepping down. The fact that he has not already done so tells me all I need to know about him.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/520954-ukraine-protest-violence-kills-scores/

    • TapestryMood

      Doesn’t help when Putin tells him not to be a doormat!! Augh!

      • Shanti108

        Yet another reason Yanukovych needs to resign asap: before Russian tanks cross the border to “help”.

        • Richard M

          Like they “helped” in Prague in 1968.

        • TapestryMood

          Exactly!!

        • MagnaDave

          Not all that sure that that would placate Putin. He might see it as a power vacuum and still feel obligated to step in.

      • MagnaDave

        Putin rides horses half-naked. That alone makes him far more credible than President Obama will ever be.

        • FaunaAndFlora

          ROTFLMAO!!!

        • nancy/still hopeful

          that makes the HORSE more credible as well…

          • MagnaDave

            LOL!

        • TapestryMood

          I know…..glad to see you having fun..love your kitty stories;-)
          Not posting…just reading and resting…just got up..can’t sit long..sigh..xoxox..

          • rg9rts

            How are you feeling dear?? Owie wowie..

          • TapestryMood

            Right now getting drunk has some real appeal;-D
            I am such a lightweight, would only take 2 drinks..lol..

          • rg9rts

            As you sit in the corner giggling. I found that alcohol didn’t help and neither did pain killers except aspirin once in awhile taken with food. It would knock the edge off not stop it. I do feel for you, how are you dealing with hubs??

          • TapestryMood

            All I take is aspirin, too….sleep and elevating/icing is about all I can do.
            I know….just joshing about the booze..no alcohol here anyway;-)
            Hard few days..he is getting so angry and frustrated..so, talk him down…fix him treats…give him some small projects he can handle..cabin fever without the guys, poor dear…but temper can be a bit frightening although he is not agressive with me..I do worry for the future if he might become hurtful..have read some do.., but will deal with what comes..have to.
            Hope you are feeling better…xoxoxo ((HUGS)) to you and MONSTA.

          • rg9rts

            I’m good it finally was over after three months. I was worried about your situation. The other issues will eventually have to be dealt with. What a terrible cruel condition. I’m always here

          • TapestryMood

            I was also thinking about any possible residuals with your Lyme problems. Last night, the story of one of the Olympic women pipe-skiiers reminded me of you…for 10 years no one understood her symptoms…10 friggen years…and, it was Lyme disease.
            Thank you, rg, thank you…so very understanding and kind of you.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        hey Dolls!!!
        this is a terrible thing-i have been keeping my head in the sand-fingers in my ears and yelling ‘lalalala’ to avoid the horror of this!!!

        • Shanti108

          I know, right? 21st century, center of Europe, wtf?
          When WILL we GROW UP? EVER?
          World Wars One and Two were just sooo much fun, weren’t they? It’s been SUCH a long time; let’s do it again!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            Syria, the middle east…I am sick to death of these politicians and their need for power and control at the expense of the people that inhabit their ‘kingdoms’ I am ashamed to be part of the same genetic species as these people!

        • TapestryMood

          Hi, Nancy….I have a spit personality today..am here and at Commas for as long as my sciatica allows;-)

          • nancy/still hopeful

            awe…wasn’t sure who was where-quieter tonight! good to see you-sorry to hear that’s still acting up hon ;-(

    • Richard M

      Think back to May 04 1970 at Kent State. The difference is quantitative. Not qualitative.

  • geezer 56

    After hearing so much about Ukraine today, I can’t get this song out of my head. Warning, though–some of the images in the video are very disturbing. As are the lyrics.
    Al Stewart, Roads to Moscow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ZG6tRGMYk

    • FaunaAndFlora

      Haunting. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard this one.

  • Canukistani

    I gotta be gone, so I’ll wish all of you a good night. This is a new room so please don’t break anything you can’t pay for yet.

    • nancy/still hopeful

      night, lol…

      • TapestryMood

        Nice seeing you..Congrats..am leaving, too;-)

        • nancy/still hopeful

          thanks Taps-night!!
          xoxoxo!!

    • rambot02

      Don’t you just love that new carpet smell?

      • nancy/still hopeful

        as good as new car!

        • rambot02

          Congrats, Nancy. I didn’t know my maternal grandparents — they both had passed away by the time I came along — but they were both Canadian born. Does that make me a Canuck once removed? “Ohhhh, Canada… The True North, strong and free!”

          • nancy/still hopeful

            you are in!!! just because you are a good person…the rest is a bonus!! ;-) ))

          • rambot02

            Ahhhh, shucks. You’re too sweet.

    • apogee2perogee

      G’nite

    • FaunaAndFlora

      Good night, Canuk.

  • apogee2perogee

    Another musical story about war across Soviet lands, this time from the viewpoint of one of Napoleon’s soldiers. Mark Knopfler cancelled a Russian tour last year, in reaction to Putin’s crackdown on human rights groups. This is his song ‘Done With Bonaparte’.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ClOcxsDDY

  • Gin1234
    • nancy/still hopeful

      *grabs spoon open up sweetie! ;-)

      • Gin1234

        I did it all by myself. Don’t need no stinkin’ spoon afterall.

        • nancy/still hopeful

          ok…going to have to check that link before I go…

    • apogee2perogee

      Ridiculous, as is usual for her.

    • FaunaAndFlora

      Will someone put that dimbulb out of her misery?

    • nancy/still hopeful

      s****d b***h
      ugh, who’s surprised?
      unless it was her that was elected!

      • apogee2perogee

        You know she can’t escape her inner sour grapes….

        • nancy/still hopeful

          vile, evil, crazy…unbelievable…
          you are so correct-she is unable to be any different than how she is.

          • apogee2perogee

            You just know she rationalizes that she couldn’t make her bid for President for the same reason, America just wasn’t ready for a woman president.

          • MagnaDave

            Keep in mind, there are plenty of people surrounding her that are telling her she could be. Just like Mitt Romney, his internal polls, and Fox News. They aren’t willing to admit that they were mislead so they resort to conspiracy theories as to why they lost.

          • apogee2perogee

            Her ego is big enough to support multiple rationalizations!

            heh heh heh

          • MagnaDave

            I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. With her, it’s nearly impossible.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            exactly-they are paid to keep her deluded!

  • nancy/still hopeful

    wow-I am going to wish you all a great night-too pooped tonight to party with you guys! enjoy and sleep well when that comes!
    xoxoxo

    • Gin1234

      Just popped in long enough to see you leave. See ya. Have a good sleep, and sweet curling dreams!

      • nancy/still hopeful

        in my wildly coloured jammies ;-)

        night Gin!

        • JP boi

          How sweet is that!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/01/22/norways-curling-team-has-wild-pants-for-winter-olympics/

            Gin thinks curling teams all wear funny pants…I was joking to her about having colourful funny jammies!

          • JP boi

            You’re on a curling team? That is so cool.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            lol, no-Gin thinks the sport is boring and we were joking with her about it! sorry for the confusion JP!

          • MagnaDave

            That Gin, she had a good head on her shoulders.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            ;-P

          • JP boi

            Oops..haha! Those sports duds are really colorful, they definitely stand out. I want to root for them just because they were brave enough to wear that. Lol

    • FaunaAndFlora

      Good Night, Nancy. See ya tomorrow.

      • nancy/still hopeful

        yes you will F/F ;-)

    • apogee2perogee

      G’nite, sleep well……

      • nancy/still hopeful

        thanks a2p… ;-)

    • MagnaDave

      Nite, Nancy! Stay safe and warm!

      • nancy/still hopeful

        did you check your mail? Mr. Popular?
        night ;-)

        • MagnaDave

          Not yet but I will, Nite!

      • JP boi

        Hi Dave! How’s your cat recovering?

        • MagnaDave

          We don’t go to the vet until March 4th. She’s not quite as loud tonight, lol.

          • blacklace382

            Just arriving but what is wrong with your kitty?

          • MagnaDave

            She’s in heat and screaming up a storm.

          • blacklace382

            Oh! Never had that issue since we spayed or neutered our cats. Have fun! :-)

          • MagnaDave

            She was a neighborhood stray that took me in. Had kittens a few days after that. The vet was pretty booked up so that’s why there’s a delay.

          • blacklace382

            I have adopted plenty of pets, not hard to do. I hope things go well with her.

          • JP boi

            Hi Blacklace, I do not think we’ve met, but I admire anyone that rescues cats and dogs too of course. Any animals really.

          • blacklace382

            Thank you! Out of the 5 cats and two dogs we have adopted six. Were you at HP?

          • JP boi

            I was for a year and managed to collect quite a few friends that I miss dearly. I’ve only just recently discovered ET, And I really love it here, I’ve found quite a few friends over here. Still looking for others.

          • blacklace382

            There are a few here from HP, and many went to raw story and another place. The boards are more active there. I am still at HP since so many of my friends are still there!

          • JP boi

            Cats adopt us. They’re smart. I’ve always believed that we rescue them and they rescue us right back. You did a really good thing by taking her in. She’s one lucky baby girl.

          • MagnaDave

            She’s a real sweetie. Outside cats are not allowed in this subdivision so she might have been trapped and taken to a shelter. I’m so glad she decided to come inside and stay.

          • JP boi

            So am I. They are so worth it. ♡

          • mistlesuede

            Hi blacklace. Hope you are well?

          • blacklace382

            I am! How about you? I haven’t talked to you in a long time!

          • mistlesuede

            I’m not sure if I’ve seen you since HP? Can’t remember. I haven’t really been on anywhere much since then. Can you believe this winter? I’m sure you must have had just about the same conditions as we’ve had for the most part.

          • blacklace382

            I don’t think I have seen you since HP, although I am still posting there. This winter has been one for the books! Having said that it was 60 here today in Ohio!

          • mistlesuede

            I’m still considering using HP. Not sure I want to sign up with a FB account though. I don’t have one and don’t want one. It was the best place to go for so many years. It was almost 50 here today and it’s raining tonight. I think tomorrow is a repeat of today and then we go back into the cold. Hopefully not back to the extreme cold we’ve had for two months.

          • blacklace382

            I read that is not the case anymore but don’t hold me to it! I use a fake FB acct over there! Where do you live?

          • mistlesuede

            Not too far from you. In Western New York.

          • mistlesuede

            I’m not sure what happened to my reply to you? I’m in western NY

          • Aquarius 1027

            Since I came back from my CA trip, there are two new sections here. Or forums or whatever one wants to call them. I have had replies disappear as well. And not all replies are in the replies to you on the dashboard, can be strange at times. – I grew up in western NY, may I ask where you are located? – Hope this gets to you! :)

          • mistlesuede

            I know what you mean. I’m not a fan of the format here either. That is a funny coincidence that you grew up here! No wonder we are friends. :) I never say on a public forum what town I live in, for security. But I can give you the general area. We are almost midway between Buffalo and Rochester in a small village .

          • Aquarius 1027

            Hi there!!!! – Understood, just the general area is fine. I grew up in a small town northeast of Rochester. Incredible, my friend! :) CA was great, I miss the beaches and palm trees. Visited my older daughter who just got her PhD! – Going down to -2 tonite, spring might finally come by May. ;) Sending a hug to you from western PA, so great to see you!!

          • mistlesuede

            Your daughters are doing very well. You have been blessed. What is she studying?
            I thought we were going to have an early spring because this winter has been something I’ve never seen before. In case you didn’t know, I was wrong. :)
            ((Hugs)) to you too!

          • Aquarius 1027

            Thank you, mistlesuede! – It has warmed up today all the way to 14! ;) It definitely has been a much colder winter, usually there are at least a few flower sprouts poking through the ground here by now. – Her degree is in molecular biology. Go Women In Science!! – Keep warm and hope your day goes well. :)

          • blacklace382

            I bet you are tired of the snow!!! I know my brother in NJ is! We have gotten our share of snow here in Ohio but the cold is what hurt! It was 60 yesterday, most of that snow is gone! :-)

          • mistlesuede

            Sorry for the late reply. We are fed up with the snow and the cold. Currently it is 6 with a wind chill of -16. Another week ahead in the forecast is showing the same. What is happening? We have never had such a bitter, cold winter like this. I wonder what it means for our summer? Take care.

          • MagnaDave

            HP just added new (the old) ways to sign in. Yahoo, Google, Aol, etc. We still have to join through FB but some people are taking the new sign in methods as an indication that changes might be on the way. You know, like Tim McDonald promised over two months ago. If we can’t believe Tim McDonald, who can we believe? /sarcasm/

          • JP boi

            Well that’s interesting. I’d consider posting there again just to see everyone.

          • mistlesuede

            This place gets confusing. I have to keep refreshing because the page freezes and you can’t type. I had one comment disappear to blacklace. This is not fun. What do you mean they added the old ways to sign in, but you still have to join through FB?
            Michelle Obama was on Fallon. Now Will Ferrell is doing some kind of dance to the music from Downton Abbey, my fav.

          • MagnaDave

            We can sign in using Google, Yahoo, and the others again. They took that away for a while. But, in reality, since we still have to have FB, nothing has changed (yet).

            Yes, Disqus has some quirks, especially if you have a lot of comments showing on your screen. I think they are aware of it and trying to make things better but it takes some getting used to. I really hope you join us here, more often than not.

            I’ve been asked to rejoin HP by a good friend so I’m thinking about it again. I would only do so using a fake FB account and a throw-away phone number, though. I still haven’t decided. I dislike FB SO much, not to mention how HP treated us in December.

          • mistlesuede

            I didn’t even notice changes to the sign in! I’m not sure how that would work with the throw away phone number because they still would know your name and you’d have it on your posts, right?
            I have no respect for FB and now I’ve learned people are selling guns through it. I’ve signed petitions and they are feeling some heat since someone who couldn’t pass a background check got one through FB and killed someone. What an irresponsible company that is. Will they respond to the situation? Who knows?
            I will try to post more often. It depends on what is happening. I have been extremely depressed watching what my son is going through. I’ve lost interest in a lot of things I used to enjoy, as you know. Add to that how I’ve been feeling physically and this extreme winter and ugh. Take care my friend. Let me know if you do the phone thing and how it works, okay?

          • MagnaDave

            I will. I’ll talk to you soon. I promise. Stay warm and safe and have a great evening and day tomorrow.

          • Feisty

            Butting in! Big hug!! Life sometimes just sucks and not a darned thing we can do about it, but get through it!! Spring is on it’s way!!

          • mistlesuede

            Thanks for the hug. Much appreciated. I was guilty of saying we were going to have an early spring this year because winter has been so harsh. I am officially declaring myself wrongo! It has been a difficult six months personally on this end and the weather was just the black icing. It is six degrees here right now with a sustained wind chill of -16.

          • Feisty

            Hey Lacie!!! Play tennis today?

          • blacklace382

            Feisty! No tennis, but I was at the gym. How are you?

          • Feisty

            Good! Got a run in today – enough snow has melted. We had some music earlier. I was looking for someone to belly dance with me – wish you were here!!

          • blacklace382

            WE do not have much snow left since the temps have been above freezing all week! Belly Dancing is something I want to try, and I am not kidding! I will try to get here earlier tomorrow night, promise!

          • Feisty

            Not sure when I will be here – but this room is the perfect belly dancing room. It looks like great fun – I would love to learn too.

          • blacklace382

            It looks like it is a good workout! I love to dance and want to try it! I need to get to bed! I over slept this morning! Will be around tomorrow and Saturday! Take care Sweety! XO

          • Feisty

            You too honeybunch!!

          • JP boi

            When we go to the Renneseance (?) Fair, my husband loves loves to watch them dance!

          • Feisty

            With good reason!! ;) I don’t have any gay tendencies (yet), but it is pretty mesmerizing to me as well!

          • nancy/still hopeful

            how about you? still howling? lol, I still haven’t been able to get out of here!!! I am leaving now-for sure!!

          • mistlesuede

            Hi Nancy. Congrats on women’s hockey gold. Nite.

          • MagnaDave

            Hi, mistle. Hope you are doing well!

          • mistlesuede

            Well, I’m doing, anyway.

          • MagnaDave

            I know the feeling…

          • mistlesuede

            Are you okay?

          • MagnaDave

            Just bummed out. Not looking forward to the hot weather and just all-around kind of down. The usual, lol.

            I guess you’re measuring the snow in feet these days.

          • mistlesuede

            It’s raining tonight, believe it or not. We still have a couple of feet on the ground though and it will be quite cold again by the weekend. Worst winter I can ever remember. What is this new little creature picture you have?

          • Feisty

            Hey!! I haven’t seen you in like forever!! Great to see you! Sorry to hear of your winter – we have had the mildest winter ever!! Such a weird vortex of weather this year!

          • mistlesuede

            I haven’t been on very much at all. Not getting used to these new locations after HP either. :) Good to see everyone here tonight. We’ve had the worst winter anyone can remember. Brutal cold and lots of snow. The Farmers Almanac was correct from what I remember. I’m in NY. Are you in the West?

          • Feisty

            Central Washington State, east side of the Cascade Mountains – usually pretty intense winters – extremely mild this year.

          • mistlesuede

            Must be gorgeous there! We had two mild winters in a row, very odd. And then this extreme winter. But, you know, climate change is just a fallacy. *sarcasm* What has taken place in the south and on the east coast has been extreme also. Your mild winter is part of that too.

          • Feisty

            Indeed. I have no idea how many superstorms, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis etc we are going to have to have until some of those folks get their heads out of their keisters – probably never.

          • mistlesuede

            I just found your comment in my email! I really have trouble with this site. “Keisters.” LOL! I think we are doomed. Too many stupid people in this country and a network geared to them and their stupidity, billionaires who run the country and oil companies at the same time. and other countries poisoning their people even faster than ours is with no interest in changing. On that note,
            goodnight. :)

          • Feisty

            Sorry you are having so many problems – not sure what advice to offer . . . hope you come back. . . maybe glitchy.

          • mistlesuede

            Thanks. I’ll check in from time to time, I’m sure.

          • MagnaDave

            He (or she) is a hedgehog from an e-card that I received for Valentine’s Day. We’re supposed to get some storms tomorrow, strong but quickly moving ones and then it should cool off a bit.

          • Feisty

            Aww Dave! Sorry to hear it!! We were talking about you today – was your keyboard burning?

          • MagnaDave

            Nice things, I hope?

          • Feisty

            Funny things . . . We are going to have a party on Lava’s boat.

          • Feisty

            And we started talking about all the creatures we would have on the boat – cats, dogs, SLUGS and Hedgehogs. And then we began wondering what hedgehogs eat . . . .

          • MagnaDave

            According to Wikipedia:

            ” Hedgehogs feed on insects, snails, frogs and toads, snakes, bird eggs, carrion, mushrooms, grass roots, berries, melons and watermelons.”

            I may have to rethink things…

          • Feisty

            Yeah see that snail thing had this slug kinda sweating it. But then Richard said you ate omni’s cuz you are an omnivore. So we decided to throw in a few of those old Omni’s (were those Dodge?) for you to nibble on.

          • MagnaDave

            Good luck finding one, lol!

          • Feisty

            Yeah, it was amusing at the time . . . might have had to be here.

            Makes me think of some of the old cars that just kind of took early retirement – Vega, Maverick, Omni.

          • MagnaDave

            My bright red 1980 Pinto was pretty awesome, though!

          • Feisty

            Weren’t they all bright red – or was that flame red?

          • MagnaDave

            OK, 10 points for cleverness but mine was built after the redesign. Make fun all you want, but I know that it (and me) were cool.

          • Feisty

            Never any doubt Dave – about you . . . now that Pinto . . .

          • mistlesuede

            Not sure about that photo D. YGM.

          • Aquarius 1027

            Hi there, mistlesuede! – Has been too long, good to see you! Escaped to sunny CA last week to visit my older daughter and now I’m back in cold and snowy western PA. – Hope things get better for you, my friend. :)

          • mistlesuede

            Sorry I missed you a week ago. It was nice to hear from you again. OMG, to be in CA sounds soooooooo wonderful. Hope it was a great respite from this horrible winter and that I’ll run across you again sometime.

          • nancy/still hopeful

            oh hey!!! so great to see you!
            wonderful…we will meet again? it’s great here-please come back and we can visit!

          • mistlesuede

            I hope so. Take care. :)

          • JP boi

            Oh…I thought she had already been spayed. She’ll be acting drunk when you bring her home and she’ll be swaying back and forth. Lol

    • JP boi

      I was hoping to chat with ya but I’ll just have to catch you later. ;) Sweet Dreams Nancy!

      • nancy/still hopeful

        awe, that will be great! enjoy!

    • blacklace382

      Just dropped in last minute, sweet dreams!

      • nancy/still hopeful

        night Lacie!!! catch you another time!
        XOXOXO

        • blacklace382

          You know how to reach me! XOXO

    • RockyMissouri

      Sleep well, Nancy…!

      • nancy/still hopeful

        ahhh, my timing sucks tonight-everyone is just getting here!!!!!
        catch you another time Rocky!!

  • FaunaAndFlora

    Think I’ll wander off to bed as well. Stay safe and warm.

    • apogee2perogee

      Sleep well Fauna, I’m gone for tonight too. Can’t keep staying awake so late.

    • MagnaDave

      G’nite, Fauna!

    • nancy/still hopeful

      night F/F!!!

  • Feisty

    Soooo quiet!! Where’s the party??

    • Feisty

      Looking for one comment below . . . .

    • JP boi

      Feisty! Mighty glad to see ya! ;)

      • Feisty

        You too JP!! How’s your day?

        • JP boi

          No complaints here. I ran errands most of the day than my hubby and I went to a new restaurant here, Oysters Rockafeller. It was good, huge portions. My tummy is still hurting a bit.

          • Feisty

            Where’s here? We’re pretty rural, always love to hear about town life.

          • MagnaDave

            Ooh, Oysters Rockafeller. Look at me! I’m a liberal-elitist!

            Hopefully, you know me well enough to know that I’m just kidding…

          • geezer 56

            You’re incorrigible.

          • MagnaDave

            That’s why you love me.

          • geezer 56

            In a Hepburn-Tracy kind of way. ;)

          • Feisty

            Better than a Jake LaMotta kind of way!!

          • geezer 56

            Oh lord…!

          • Feisty

            LOL!!

          • JP boi

            Lol..that’s ok Dave. :(

    • kcinca

      I think people are lost. I haven’t been around in a couple of weeks and it took me 10 min to find this place. Anyone know why the “public square” keeps being moved and renamed?

      • Feisty

        We keep overwhelming the comment capacity of the rooms. The site starts getting glitchy at around 10 15,000 comments. It is hard to tell right now, but we reach the max pretty quickly and then a new room has to be started. Usually there are links posted at the other rooms. ET has been very gracious to keep making new rooms and adding some international flair!

        Not sure I met you before or if we knew each other at ET – I was feistyslug over there. Great to see you.

    • Cougar90210

      On my way to bed. But good news for me (and all Tar Heel fans). Carolina beat Duke tonight 74-66 in a bit of an upset. My sons have been texting me ever since the game ended. They’re pretty happy, and so am I, actually.

      G’nite, and see you mañana.

      • Feisty

        Congratulations Mr Cougar!! So awesome! Greatly looking forward to our next music. I really enjoyed that second song of Iris Demint’s – really terrific.

        • MagnaDave

          Iris DeMent is awesome. The first time I heard her, on Austin City Limits, I thought “OMG! What the heck?” Luckily, I kept listening and realized what a great talent she is. A genuinely nice person, too.

          • Feisty

            Here’s one Cougar posted earlier – I like her attitude:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYqDpL0YCvI

          • MagnaDave

            Wow! Shades of Dylan and Springsteen! Never heard that one before. It’s incredible! Have you heard this one?

            Iris DeMent and John Prine In Spite of Ourselves

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5axlwCBXC8

          • Feisty

            John Prine!! Thanks for reminding me that I need to download more of his music.
            This is great!! Literally LOL!!!!

            Love Bug Junkie!!

          • MagnaDave

            I always liked this one, too…

            Iris DeMent God May Forgive You (but I Won’t)

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQNLZRcNA4

            And on a more serious note, this one is very touching and just beautiful…

            Iris DeMent Our Town

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IUj1mDENg

          • Feisty

            Clearly, I need to learn more about her. I really enjoyed Our Town. Her voice is compelling.

            God May Forgive You could be sang to way too many ppl I know.

          • MagnaDave

            I know! That’s why I love that song. Both of them, for the reasons you mentioned. She’s a treasure.

            Thanks for posting Living in the Wasteland of the Free. Best song I’ve heard in a very long time!

          • Feisty

            My pleasure. Always looking for musical gold. She is a find!!

          • Aquarius 1027

            Morning, Dave! – At least, I think it’s you with that new – um, well – picture. ;)

          • MagnaDave

            Hedgehog. It’s me, showing a softer side. He (she?) came in an e-card that a dear friend sent me on Valentine’s Day.

            So nice to see you! It’s been a while.

          • Aquarius 1027

            Good to see you, too! – I escaped to sunny and warm southern CA to visit my older daughter. Did not want to leave but I am back in cold and now rainy western PA. :( Do not think hedgehogs are very soft, perhaps your cuter side? ;)

          • MagnaDave

            But, how could I possibly be any cuter?

            Almost 80 degrees here today and sunny (I hated it). There’s supposed to be some fast moving and maybe severe storms tomorrow so I’m looking forward to that and then it will cool off again. I guess that I’m the only one but I hate to see winter go.

          • Aquarius 1027

            :) You know I love the snow but always nice to get a break. Just do not like this 50 degree rain in February – will probably be all ice in a few days!

          • MagnaDave

            I remember those days from growing up in NJ. Yearly (or almost) ice storms, too. Sigh… Nostalgia…

          • HamletsMill
      • JP boi

        Night night Cougar!!

      • Richard M

        Not that it matters, but combined with Syracuse losing to Boston College….(tee hee)……Gators chomp!

        • Feisty

          My boss is a gator. I better start sucking up a bit and follow their games – when do they play again?

        • JP boi

          Hi Richard! How’s you’re day today?

        • HamletsMill

          And Syracuse beat Pitt in the time out with 4 seconds left disaster last week!

          • Toastman

            Hey Hamlet. How are you?

          • Richard M

            Orange were definitely overrated. Two consecutive “miracle” wins. One over Pitt, one over NC St.

            Now they are exposed. I expect them to lose to Virginia and Duke. They will probably still get a #1 seeding in the NCAA, but that will just open the door for lower seeded teams to advance.

            No Final Four for the Orange!

  • JP boi

    Ok..Here’s one for Sammy and everyone else.
    There was a farmer that went looking to buy a rooster. When he found one he wanted to buy, the man selling it said he’d sell it for 50 dollars. The farmer said, 50 dollars?? Well what about that other scrawny looking rooster, how much for him? The man said, no, you do not want that rooster, all he does all day long is have sex with all the farm animals, but if you really want him, he’s 5 dollars. So the farmer took the rooster home. Soon he became amazed that the rooster was having sex with not only the chickens, but every other animal as well. He fussed at the rooster, Stop that you dirty ol bird, you’ll go off and get yourself killed. Then one morning the farmer found the rooster, laying dead on the ground. He said, I told you this was going to happen!! Then the rooster opened one eye, pointed up to the sky and responded, Sshhh…Vultures..

    • Feisty

      Ha!! Good one!! Sammy will love it!!

      • JP boi

        Ha! Thanks..that use to be one I liked sharing when I was a Bartender back when. I knew many more including a few magic tricks I picked up from some magicians as well. But sadly have forgotten most.

    • MagnaDave

      Kind of reminds me of this one… (A bit nasty, be warned…)

      A kid is walking to his friend’s house through a field when he sees his friend’s father doing it with a donkey. Needless to say, he is shocked. He arrives at his friend’s house, and try as he might to let it go, he just has to say something…

      “Dude! I don’t know how to tell you this, but I just saw your dad doing it with a donkey!”

      His friend isn’t the least bit surprised and replies…

      “Don’t worry. Hee Hawlways does that.”

      • Feisty

        Ohhhh maan! Nasty and corny!!

        • JP boi

          I’m gonna have to learn some new jokes!!

          • Feisty

            There must be some sites online, I have seen some good ones lately.

          • JP boi

            Agreed, lots of sites probably. I’ll look for some good ones tomorrow. …

          • MagnaDave

            Google “Best joke in the world.” That usually brings up some good ones.

          • Feisty

            Good to know. I am usually looking for music, probably need to change it up!

      • JP boi

        I like it!! ;)

        • MagnaDave

          :-)

    • lallywendy

      lol thanks JP started my day with a chuckle – always a good way to start any day! xxxx

      • JP boi

        Hi Lally!! I think its around 8:30 where you are possibly? It’s 2:39 here and I’m still going strong. I’ve been chatting with some new friends. How are you?

        • lallywendy

          Hi darling it’s now 09.11 am, lovely and sunny and dry but cold 2C, or for you, 35F considering the weather you’ve been facing that seems bit pathetic! The flooding in the UK has almost passed our little corner by! As you say been catching up with new and old chums. Find need them even more now, spend a lot of time with net book on my chest! Handy with time difference can find friends somewhere in world 27/7! If you are still awake you must be drooping by now! Sleep well take care xxxxxxxxxxxx

          • JP boi

            It is a 6 hr difference than! I recall David would begin comments about this time as well. You had mentioned before how he shared stories about his french heritage, and I recall similar stories about his parents and sister who I could tell, he loved them dearly. We always had a running joke about Geese. He knew I loved them and wanted to have some as pets, so he would always joke about recipes and cooking birds.

          • lallywendy

            Yes like you I do still miss him, his gentle humour always made me smile. During my falls and hospital visits he was sympathetic and now I have a name for it I’d love to give him, and other lost huff friends, an update! It’s having a name for what’s wrong that’s helped me to face up to things, and am comfortable with being disabled although personally use ‘broken’ to me that’s a description that fits! Each to their own I say! xxxxx

          • JP boi

            I guess he didn’t realize he has the ability to make a difference and that’s a rare gift. I can only imagine what you’ve gone through and I know it’s not been easy. I can understand as well how it might be a relief to finally be told why you’ve had those problems with your illness, such as falling. I’ll always be here for you to talk, joke, cry and laugh. I’m glad we met. Thanks Lally.

          • lallywendy

            He did indeed! Thanks for that yes my beloved and son had thought for years I should have done exercises, suppose they thought I was being lazy! Turns out wouldn’t have done any good even if I could have done them! So they felt guilty but they have no need to it’s understandable, I thought it was my fault too! So we are all happy again! Sort of! Now sleep young lady it’s WAY past your bed time!!! lol xxxxx

          • JP boi

            You have a great attitude. It sounds like you have a very supportive and loving family. It makes all the difference. My parents are long passed and I only have my hubby and I do not even want to think how it might be without him. He is also supportive and loving.

          • lallywendy

            Thanks I had a lovely Mum who taught me to accept things and deal with life’s troubles in a positive way. She did same with ovarian cancer but sadly died young agt 47. Yes am lucky both my ‘lad’s’ know me well and cope with my eccentricities but know I’m harmless! They are used to my big ‘gob’ showing them up, but they laugh with, and at, me! It’s good when we can appreciate what we have now, rather than had, after!! xxx

          • JP boi

            You’re right my friend, I’m down for the count. I wish we were in the same time zone. But that will not keep us from posting to each other!! I’m not sure if I mentioned to you that when I left HP I was saddened by losing so many contacts, and thought how could I let Sammy andLallyknow where to meet. I was so sad, because really look at the chances..so we’ve been blessed and I take that seriously. I look forward to a long friendship!!♡ guess I’ll be off to bed now…night Lally!! X X X

          • lallywendy

            Everything happens for a reason love we just have to hope that by some fluke David comes across us again, his recipes for things sounded divine so who knows we may end up having a virtual supper listening to some good sounds! xxxxxxxx

          • JP boi

            Sounds really nice. Let’s hope he’s ok.

          • lallywendy

            :o ) xx

        • lallywendy

          Hi JP seem to be slow gettng messages, plus busy trying to get some house sorting done ready for the Spring if it ever comes! Easter is late this year think all the daffs and tulips will be long gone by time I’m eating my chocolate eggs! Hope you are well and enjoying your new friends! Take care lally xxxx

          • JP boi

            Hello Lally!! I was thinking about you. I haven’t posted in a couple of days. I was thinking about getting busy and start posting on the ET stories in appreciation of their gracious hospitality in helping folks like us reunite. I wish they would stop those annoying ads from popping up though. All is well here. 65° and cloudy, almost 1pm. How are you feeling today? I enjoyed your ideas on a party type Ball where we might all meet. It would be soooo much fun.

  • MagnaDave

    It’s odd, but it’s different and kind of catchy…

    Keren Ann My Name is Trouble

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-0Qx8HwlW4

    • Feisty

      I like her voice!!

      • MagnaDave

        Almost ethereal. Kind of mesmerizing, too.

        • Feisty

          Yeah it really draws you in . . .

    • geezer 56

      I heard your cat is undergoing hormonal challenges. Mine is just pestering the crap out of me, nonstop, because I just opened a new bag of Temptations. They’re like crack cocaine for cats.

      • MagnaDave

        What did you expect? You can’t bring those in the house and not expect to get pestered, lol. My kitty’s favorite is croissants, of all things. She knocks them out of my hand and gobbles them down.

        • Feisty

          I take it they don’t call you the Cat Whisperer?

          • MagnaDave

            Oh, she yells at me all day long. She purrs just as much so it all works out.

          • Feisty

            Awww, we don’t have cats anymore – coyote bait. Miss them. My favorites are tabbies. We have dogs – 4 now that we adopted a new sweetie last week. Dogs are cool . . .

          • MagnaDave

            I’ve had dogs in the past, even three at one time for a number of years. Sadly, they’ve all passed on. Just one kitty now, after losing two last year. Dogs are wonderful but it’s just not the tight time for me right now.

          • Feisty

            We have 19 acres – doggie heaven, so we have rescued several over the years. It just isn’t kitty heaven, I miss having a nice puddy cat. Sorry you lost two cats in one year, that’s tough.

          • MagnaDave

            Both unexpectedly and for seemingly no reason. After reading about it, I think they might have had heart attacks. Gone much, much, too soon. The worst part is, seemingly perfectly fine one minute and gone the next. It was (is) very hard but the latest came on the day (maybe even the moment) that my male passed away. I’m so glad that we found each other.

        • geezer 56

          That’s it–the “pestering paw.” She’s practically climbing on my laptop and barely letting me type.

        • JP boi

          Mine too. She loves croissants. She’ll perk up like a little hungry foosa trying to help me eat it. We call all our cats foosas.

          • MagnaDave

            LOL! I call mine Yell-Kitty or Purr-Bunny depending on her mood at the moment. Maybe Schizo-Kitty would work…

          • Feisty

            Purr Bunny’s cute!!

          • JP boi

            That’s cute! We picked up the nick name Foosa from the movie Madagascar. Have you seen the movie?

          • MagnaDave

            No. I haven’t seen a movie in the theater since Titanic and that seems like yesterday.

      • JP boi

        I have one particular girl cat, that as soon as I wake up and walk into the living room, she begins to holler for those treats. She’s hilarious to hear, it’s a really long meoooooooow that just goes on on and on.

        • geezer 56

          I’ve known a couple cats who do that bizarre “yordel, yordel, yordel” thing. Maybe that’s what they think we sound like…?

          • JP boi

            Well they do learn to understand quite a few words. My Siamese mix Sassy says “No” sometimes when she doesn’t want to be picked up. It’s probably a coincidence, but she says it perfectly.

          • MagnaDave

            I had a Siamese that had different words for water, food, outside, and a few other things. The one that took me a while was when she would just stand there and yell. I finally figured out that it meant that she wanted to be picked up. The only word she never used was “Hiss.”

          • JP boi

            Cat’s are so fascinating, we get so much joy from ours, we have 8 and most found us. Mine only hiss at each other. The male cats are all best friends and cuddle together. They like to pick on the girls. But Sassy, who just turned one, has a twin, CoCo and they have each others backs. And the twins definitely are intimidating to the males. They are Siamese and Torti mix long hair, with beautiful markings.

          • MagnaDave

            Mine had twin girls, which my dear friends took in. They are turning out just like their mom, hyper-active and a “terror” (in a good, Jack Russel terrier kind of way) one minute, calm and loving the next. I was so happy and relieved that they took them in and that they got to stay together. They have several other cats and two dogs and they are one big, happy family.

          • JP boi

            How sweet! I love every single time I’ve managed to adopt out rescued kitties. This is my first experience with twins. And they look almost identical, and very close.

          • MagnaDave

            The ones mine had look pretty different. Both calicoes but one is mostly white and orange, like her mom, and the other is mostly gray, like her dad. I assume her dad, anyway. I’ve seen a big gray cat once or twice and assume that he’s the father. They are very close, too. One is a bit more adventurous, though.

          • JP boi

            These two babies look so much alike we have to look for a particular marks on their fur that set them apart. But it’s still very easy to confuse them. They’re a blue point coloring and Torti mix, and the markings are really beautiful.

          • Aquarius 1027

            Hi there, JP boi! – Nice to meet you! – Cannot imagine having 8 cats, we have one Bengal. She’s friendly but usually quiet – except at dinner time. :)

          • Toastman

            Hey Aquarius and JP. Have we met before? I’m usually on here around this time of night.

          • JP boi

            No..but its nice to meet. I use to post at HP…and just very recently found some of my buddies new and old, over here at ET. Very happy sbout that. But many are still lost.

          • rg9rts

            Psssssfty

          • Toastman

            I was a HP’er too. I’m glad you found your way here. It’s way more relaxed and the conversations are good. Hello and welcome. Nice to meet you.

          • JP boi

            Thank you..much appreciated! It is sooo much better here. But before I knew it was here, I went to CNN and there are too many haters over there.

          • Toastman

            That place is savage. I guess it’s OK if you don’t want to comment, or read them.

          • Aquarius 1027

            Same here, JP. I was lucky to have some friends who gave me some directions but it took me a while to learn to navigate further in cyberspace. – That was the hardest part, some friends have been cut off and may never be found. – At least there are new friends to meet. Cheers! :)

          • JP boi

            Hi!! Nice to meet you as well! It all started when my hubby and I moved to a house in the county and we realized there were homeless cats coming around looking for food. So 12 yrs later……

          • Aquarius 1027

            You are kind souls to take in the homeless cats, glad to know they have a place to live now. My one daughter got her cat at a rescue shelter – a four year old stray brought in that day. Two years later her cat still tries to steal the sandwich she makes in the morning to take to work! :)

          • rg9rts

            Its ALWAYS dinner time!!!!!!

          • Aquarius 1027

            Morning, rg! – Don’t think I would ever say no if Monsta was hungry, would not want to face the consequences! ;)

          • rg9rts

            He just makes a lot of noise and wants fresh from the bucket kibble, not the stuff you put down 2 minutes ago

          • Toastman

            Definitely smarter than my puppy. She sits at the back door wanting in. She could be waiting for an hour and never barks, or knocks. I wonder if she will ever learn.

          • Aquarius 1027

            Morning, Toastman! – Other than your puppy needing to learn how to bark, hope things are doing well for you. :)

          • Toastman

            Not too bad, how are you doing?

          • Aquarius 1027

            Noticed your other post – we have met but just once before. I am usually a night owl as well. I’m trying not to miss southern CA – just got back from visiting my older daughter there to cold and rainy western PA. Perhaps I could convince our little town council to allow a tiki bar with palm trees. ;)

          • Toastman

            After I posted that I realized that we had bumped into each other before. I can feel your weather pain. We had about an inch of hail, 3/4 inch of rain. Now it’s 40 mph winds with snow showers. It’s been a long and tiring winter :-(

          • JP boi

            Crazy weather. It was a beautiful 72° here in the Mobile area. But right now its dropping and going down to.the 40s again. Its thunderstorming and we’re under flash flood warning. Hopefully no tornados will join in.

          • Toastman

            Isn’t it a joy to be living in about the the only place in the world that has twisters?

          • Aquarius 1027

            Completely agreed. – May I ask where do you live? Sounds like a blizzard! I grew up in western NY and we had a few of those. Just snow and it stayed on the ground from Nov to April. – Here in Pittsburgh it can do the rain/freeze to ice/snow thing which I try to avoid driving in whenever I can. – Keep warm! :)

          • MagnaDave

            Have you seen the video of the dog sitting at the door with no glass in the frame waiting to go outside? Even when the owner walks through it a couple times, the dog just sits there waiting for him to open the door.

          • Toastman

            OMG! That sounds just like a dog.

          • MagnaDave
          • JP boi

            Geezer, have you seen the video of the cat that sounds like he’s saying. “Ohh.. no..long.. johnson”?

          • Toastman

            Is it on YouTube?

          • JP boi

            It has to be, I’ve seen it several times, but on Animal Planet.

          • MagnaDave
          • JP boi

            That’s the one. I don’t think I’ve seen that particular one that shows why he’s so upset. That other cat’s only half his size! lol

  • Feisty

    Nite Nite!!

    Peace Love and Grooviness Friends!!

    • JP boi

      Noooo Feisty! Oh..ok:( Night night and will see ya soon. :-)

      • Feisty

        NIte JP!! Trying to read an article, so haven’t closed up shop quite yet – anything to avoid studying!

        • JP boi

          Aha, a student. Studying really hard was never one of my better suits unfortunately…but if I could, I’d go back and study my behind off!! So don’t stop, keep up the schooling!!

          • Feisty

            It’s not mine anymore – finishing my bachelors – should have done it sooner, sloggin through the last few classes and not attententive.

          • JP boi

            You’ve made it this far, can’t stop now. I admire that…you’re doing something that will further you in life and hopefully make more money too..lol. Seriously though..good luck! :)

    • Aquarius 1027

      Hi, Feisty – and goodnite!

      • Feisty

        Aww – hello sweetie!!

        • Aquarius 1027

          Good to see you!! – So what are you trying to avoid studying? – I definitely remember that avoid part on many late nights of studying! :)

          • Feisty

            Finally finishing my bachelors in nursing. I’ve been a nurse for a “few” years. I am learning a ton, just feel isolated and lonesome.

          • Aquarius 1027

            Yes, I remember – I’m retired now from critical care nursing. I went back for my MSN after 17 years. Finally completed it after 8 years on the part time plan! That included two kids, a move to another state and a husband who traveled with work. – I sincerely hope yours does not take that long!! Keep going Feisty, you are not alone in getting more education and I will be here to cheer you on toward the final day when you are done!!!! :)

    • MagnaDave

      Nite Feisty! Thanks for the fun and music!

      • Feisty

        Nite Dave, obviously I am having a hard time tearing myself away! :)

        See ya next time!

  • JP boi

    Yikes everyone, lots of rain and loud thunder happening right now. I’m needing my thunder buddy Ted.

    • Toastman

      Jimmy Page & Robert Plant – The Rain Song
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAFzPoShRw

      • JP boi

        Ahhhh…7 min 32 sec of pure bliss…thank you!
        I’ve seen them 3 times in concert and recall standing once just below and in front of the stage and where Jimmy Page was playing. I recall being in complete awe!

        • Toastman

          Jimmy Page. What can you say about him? The guy is just amazing. That clip was from when they did “Unledded”. It’s also on DVD. I think he plays better than ever in that performance.

          I’m glad you liked it. I’m never sure who may be a Zep fan here. But I post them at times.

          • Cynthia W.

            You can count me in as a Zep fan.

          • JP boi

            I’ve been their fan since my 9th grade teacher played the song Stairway to Heaven. We spent the whole hour discussing it. Let’s see, that was in 73. Been hooked ever since.

        • Toastman

          That is one band that I never got to see. I lived near Chicago at the time but it seemed like it never worked out for me to go. I’m bummed.

          • JP boi

            Sorry…that’s pretty much how I feel about the Beatles, totally bummed I never saw any of them in concert either.

  • Cynthia W.

    Hi, anybody here?

    • MagnaDave

      Hi, Cynthia, I’m kind of here. Toastman and rg are here somewhere. I think JP Boi is, too. Maybe even Aquarius 1027.

      • Cynthia W.

        Hi, Dave. How are you today?

        • MagnaDave

          Kind of grouchy, lol. Everyone’s talking about the bad weather I love and it was 80 degrees and sunny here today. And you?

          • Cynthia W.

            I’m grouchy because of the bad weather you love and I have.

          • MagnaDave

            It’s just not fair, is it?

          • Cynthia W.

            No it isn’t Want to trade?

          • MagnaDave

            More than you could ever imagine!

          • Toastman

            But we don’t have to deal with the occasional hurricane.

          • MagnaDave

            Been a while here. Very calm summer last year. Lots of rain inland but not much here at the coast at all.

          • Toastman

            Still having boring weather I see.

          • MagnaDave

            Some excitement tomorrow as a brief but heavy band of storms move through. Then it should cool off a bit.

      • TapestryMood

        I just saw Gladys 1963 and showed her the way here..hopefully she will show up…she is such a dear;-)

        • Cynthia W.

          Hi, tap. Did you just arrive too?

          • TapestryMood

            Yes….nap, eat, clean, post…..nap, eat, clean, post…I sound like some of the cats I have been reading about here;-D

        • Toastman

          Hey Taps. Did you eat your vegetables today :-)

          • TapestryMood

            RAW carrots, broccoli, cauliflower….yummers;-)

          • Toastman

            Raw is good. I’ll pass on the cauliflower though. I never could acquire that taste for that one or Okra.

          • TapestryMood

            Ack….okra, beets, blechhhh;-)

          • Toastman

            Oh yeah, beets. Nasty.

          • TapestryMood

            Fer sure..spit some out across the table in a restaurant once when a lil’ girl…lol..thought it was a spiced apple slice..gack;-D Parents were kind, though!!

        • MagnaDave

          She was here last night for a bit,

          • TapestryMood

            Yes..saw that..she was in Commas and I tried to direct her here..I see Mistlesuede was her for a bit..great!!

          • Gladys1963

            Mistlesuede! I miss her–hope she stops by soon.

        • Aquarius 1027

          Good to see you, Taps! – Yes, I hope Gladys 1963 finds her way here, too. Thank you!

          • TapestryMood

            Woo woo..any pictures of you on the beach..Tiki Bars..et al? :-D Hope all went wonderful for your daughter, too!

        • JP boi

          Taps!

          • TapestryMood

            Mwah!!

    • JP boi

      Hi Cynthia!! Welcome to the party!

      • Cynthia W.

        Quiet tonight, isn’t it? All the other rooms are dead right now.

        • JP boi

          I haven’t moved from this one now for about 4 hrs. I’m listening to thunder and lightning outside and the tv has no signal..lol.

          • Toastman

            At least you have the internet working :-)

          • JP boi

            I use to wonder what strangers could possibly ever have to talk about on the net. Now I totally get it. I would be really bummed if the rain took that signal away as well.

          • Cynthia W.

            We’re supposed to get lots of rain later today. My TV reception is poor too. You have an antenna?

          • JP boi

            Just Direct tv.

          • Cynthia W.

            I’m down to an indoor antenna that gets a few local stations. I had cable, but I couldn’t afford it any longer. I use Netflix a lot.

          • JP boi

            We’ve had it for a while. But if we ever lose it, we’d definitely take advantage of Netflix. As of now, I’ve not seen anything on Netflix.

    • Toastman

      Hello. I’m in and out. I’m playing Hearts, chatting and listening to tunes. How are you tonight?

      • Cynthia W.

        Tired, but I thought I’d drop in for a few and catch up.

        • Toastman

          Me too, and I’ve stuck around for longer than I planned. Isn’t that how it always happens?

          • Cynthia W.

            Yes. Sometimes I look up and realize that hours have passed when it seemed like only a few minutes.

          • JP boi

            It’s really relaxing here. It would be way cool if we all got together at the same time…like a posters convention. ;-)

          • Toastman

            Agreed. I would be wild. No one could wear name tags and we could all try to figure out who each other is.

          • lallywendy

            sammy and I used to say same about huff, when being on there was fun! we fancied a Summer or New Year’s ball! Only instead of you all dancing round handbags they could dance round me in my chariot, as I prefer to call my wheelchair! i was going to attach fairy lights and balloons, very low key, very me lol xxxxxxxxx

          • JP boi

            It sounds wonderful doesn’t it!! Wait…would we all wear name tags that have our usernames?? We’d have to if we wanted to know who was who..lol.

          • lallywendy

            Name Tags with Masques so at the end of the evening, spent laughing and chatting, you get to the ‘ta Dah’ moment and see who’s left, as they run for the hills! Suppose my chariot would be bit of a clue too! lol xxxx

    • Aquarius 1027

      Morning, Cynthia! :)

      • Cynthia W.

        Good morning. After 3AM EST. I thought it was about midnight until I checked the clock.

        • Aquarius 1027

          Same here! – Escaped to sunny and warm southern CA last week, just got back. Did not want to leave the beaches and palm trees. – Except to return to my cat. :)

          • Cynthia W.

            I visited CA once and I loved it there. It’s very expensive to live there, however.

          • Aquarius 1027

            It was just my second visit. My daughter and son-in-law live there and yes, the cost of living is crazy – especially housing. They would like to get a house but the prices are too high. – Perhaps later, she just graduated with her PhD after seven long years! :)

          • TapestryMood

            Proud momma;-) Happy for her and her hub!!

          • Aquarius 1027

            Thanks, Taps! – Her defense of her thesis went great and she was so glad it was finally done. Celebrated at the tiki bars and the sunsets on the beaches were beautiful! Did not want to leave sunny CA. – Now my other daughter is in Ghana completing her research and it is 94 degrees there! That one’s too warm for me. :)

          • TapestryMood

            Such wonderful women you have raised….and, I am not one bit surprised with you as their role model and mom…ACK…94 would have me needing medical care!!
            Have a good night..I am leaving for the night..xoxoxo (((HUGS))!

          • Aquarius 1027

            Thanks! One never knows for sure how things will turn out but even with the bumps along the way, one can always hope for the best. While other times can be rough and difficult, this was one of those times for joy and happiness! – Try to get some good sleep . . xoxoxo and HUGS!! right back to you!!

  • Gladys1963

    Just sayin’ hey, y’all! I’m off to bedfordshire, but I’ll talk to you all on the morrow!

    • Cynthia W.

      Hi, Where were you before here?

      • TapestryMood

        Gladys was on HP.

        • Cynthia W.

          Gee–I don’t recall such a place.

          • TapestryMood

            :-D My mind meld hasn’t completely taken hold yet..still some residuals;-)

      • Gladys1963

        Nope–first time. Tapestry told me last night that this is where everyone was.

      • Gladys1963

        Oh, duh–I didn’t read your post correctly. I’m an HPer–still am on occasion. A few good folks are still there.

    • TapestryMood

      My map worked;-D Woo woo;-)

      • Gladys1963

        You’re the best!

        • TapestryMood

          xoxox;)

    • JP boi

      Night night..sweet dreams! Hurry back..

      • Gladys1963

        Thanks, hon! It was tough falling asleep–I didn’t want to get up so early, and then the cat insisted on playing fetch–he yowled and tapped my arm so many times, I had to give in!

        • JP boi

          What fun! I spoil myself by spoiling my cats! But they’re worth it! There are two on my lap right now ! How are you?

    • MagnaDave

      Hi and bye! Have a great night and day tomorrow.

      • Gladys1963

        You too, hon–have a good one!

    • Aquarius 1027

      Hi there, Gladys!! – Sleep well.

      • Gladys1963

        Except for my cat, I slept okay (see what I told JP)!

  • MagnaDave
    • TapestryMood

      She is a favorite..didn’t know this song…thank you.
      Did you get a green bar above the video..about an account and Google+..augh..I do not belong to Google + or have a you tube account..WTF?

      • MagnaDave

        I updated something and am going to try to undo it. Sorry about that.

        • TapestryMood

          So….it is about you..not me;-D

          • MagnaDave

            Apparently, they tricked me into opening a Google+ account. I just deleted it.

          • TapestryMood

            Okey dokey;-)

    • Cynthia W.

      When I got to YouTube, I got this message, and had to undo all the changes they made without me knowing. I changed it all back. I’m going to give my address as Antarctica.
      “Your account has been updated. Visit your channel’s profile on Google+. You can undo this any time in the next 14 days, in YouTube settings”

      • TapestryMood

        I don’t belong to you tube or Google +..should I do something??

        • MagnaDave

          No, I don’t think so. Things should be back to normal now.

        • Cynthia W.

          I only have an account on youtube because I have a lot of playlists. and I also have friends that are in a band and have a YouTube account. I at least try to get over to them to give them my opinio of their songs.

          • TapestryMood

            Ok….I get that..nice…Thanks.
            So, since I never comment I should be safe;-)

          • Cynthia W.

            As long as you don’t have playlists up there, which really doesn’t make sense anyway since these downloaders are available and you can download then to your PC,

          • TapestryMood

            OK..I think since I do have gmail, maybe you tube is part of the package, but I don’t have Google+ ..Nite..and thanks;-)

      • MagnaDave

        I just undid mine. I don’t want a Google+ account and I don’t like the way they “tricked” me into having one. Good grief, can’t websites just do things out in the open anymore?

        Rhetorical question…

        • Cynthia W.

          I never signed up for one either. Then they changed my YouTube account name, so i had to change it back.

          • MagnaDave

            I should be back to the same old account I haven’t used in at least 3 years now.

          • Cynthia W.

            Do you have music in playlists there?

          • MagnaDave

            No, I don’t think so. I just go there to listen to music videos. Years ago, I used to comment there but I haven’t for as long as I can remember now.

        • lallywendy

          Know how you feel huff hooked us all on to FB, am lost on mine so rarely use, just hate choices being made for me!

  • Toastman

    As I head off to sleep world, here’s another Page & Plant tune for Zeppelin fans.
    - That’s The Way
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20vBbW9HIQs

    • JP boi

      I’m glad to have met you toastman! I’m going to have to start sharing my favorite songs as well. Music has always been a big part of my life. But my favorites will always be from the 60s and 70s.

      • Cynthia W.

        60s & 70s–me too.

  • MagnaDave

    Nite, all. Thanks, everyone!

    • TapestryMood

      Nite..I am going to bed, too. xoxo;-)

      • MagnaDave

        xoxo

      • JP boi

        Night Taps!

        • TapestryMood

          G’Nite! ..you be good, ya hear;-)

          • JP boi

            I’ll give it a try..talk to ya soon friend!

    • Cynthia W.

      Dave???? Are You OK??? You never leave before I do.

      • MagnaDave

        There’s always an exception to every rule…

        TTYL…

        Stay safe and warm.

        • Cynthia W.

          You too. Hope you’re OK.

          • MagnaDave

            I’m fine. Just tired.

          • allison1050

            My how you’ve changed!

    • JP boi

      Goodnight Dave! It was fun chatting and I’ll see ya soon, sleep well friend.

    • Aquarius 1027

      Nite, Dave – sleep well.

  • JP boi

    Sweet dreams to all…and to all…a very good night..♥

  • Cynthia W.

    NO ONE IS HERE

    As I sat alone, with no one at hand
    I thought I would go over to the Bazaar Grand.
    My faithful cats followed, and stayed at my side
    While I looked around to find those that hide.

    I looked through the market, through stalls and displays
    Turned corners to pathwys in the giant maze.
    No one did I see, nor did I hear a sound
    Of friends it was empty, as I looked around.

    Oh cats where are they, all my friends true?
    I’m all alone, pets, all except for you
    As my tears fell and I softly did moan
    My kitties took hold, and steered me back home

    • JP boi

      I love that. My kitties pull me in from the brink all the time.

      • BungeeCord

        My dogs do the same for me.

        • JP boi

          Hi there! They are the real rescuers aren’t they?!

          • BungeeCord

            Hi JP. Absolutely! Their loyalty and devotion should be emulated by more humans.

          • TanzAtNite

            Indeed!
            But too many humans aren’t smart enough to do that?

    • Aquarius 1027

      Wonderful words again – from deep in the dark hours of the night. Will turn on a light to brighten the path for your kitties and you.

    • allison1050

      It sounds as if you’re talking about me and my little Silky Mona Lisa my closest friend.

    • Richard M

      Now I feel guilty about passing out early!

    • jbiot

      Thank you Cyn for capturing something that’s so hard to express and for doing it so well. I never liked the word pet because it seems small. What we have with them is real love and friendship; it’s deep and sustaining and the very opposite of small, and when things get bad we turn to them and what’s always true is one simple fact:

      They’re there for us and steer us home, to borrow your words.

      We love them and they love us back, always. Sometimes the love’s so strong you’re heart can literally ache.

      Thank you again for capturing that in a heck of a fine verse.

    • rg9rts

      Psssssssfty

    • thinkingwomanmillstone

      Nicely done Cynthia. Nothing beats our smaller family members for loyal company in the wee hours.

      • rg9rts

        Unless he weighs 16 pounds with paws like stilletteoes

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          I had a kitty whom your Monsta reminds me of. A big orange ragged eared ex street cat named Bluto…weight: 19 pounds. The sweetest guy I’ve ever known. We adopted him when he was probably about 10 years old and he purred for the next 5 years until he took a final nap under the dining room table. He had a problem with his eyes and the vet used to have to put litmus paper on his eye to test the pH and determine which drops to give him. Bluto would even purr while the vet was doing that. It was probably a cat psychology ploy to make the vet feel guilty for treating him that way…it worked. I went to the rescue place to pick up a little girl kitten, any color other than orange, and came home with a huge,old, male orange ton of feline devotion…best change of heart I’ve ever had.

          • rg9rts

            MONSTA is a rescue to. He rescued me from being kittyless

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Maybe he was looking for a sweet little girl and found you and it was love at first site as well?

          • rg9rts

            At 6′ 220 and a full beard I think it was love at first sight

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            See Monsta knew what he wanted at heart even if his mind might not have. My mind told me a female little not orange kitten and my heart said nope big old orange tomcat. Sometimes we have to listen to our hearts.

  • thinkingwomanmillstone

    Okay, it’s Friday. Let’s think about what we’re going to read for the weekend. Apparently this legislator should have put down the Bible and read Fahrenheit 451.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/south-carolina-legislators-punish-colleges-assigning-lgbt-books-1556933

    • rg9rts

      Says more about their own doubts of their own sexuality

      • lallywendy

        ok I’m here now darling – amuse me! xoxox

        • rg9rts

          I’m always amusing, you know that. Sometimes more than others .

          • lallywendy

            true darling, so now you can get me a drink and one of those bubble pipe thingy’s dying to try one of those! xoxoxox

          • rg9rts

            You have a message xoxoxo

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          Good Morning…I doubt that rg9rts’ description of you is accurate…but you are certainly welcome here. What part of Britain are you from?

          • lallywendy

            Thank you! rg and I are old friends, he’s never been right about me! I hail from what I call fondly ‘middle Britain! We are an Island and I’m stuck furtest away from any sea!

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I live in London and then Maidenhead in the late 70′s-early 80′s. We loved exploring the countryside.

          • lallywendy

            A worthwhile thing to do, can often change dramatically just when turning a corner!

      • thinkingwomanmillstone

        I agree. If you are convinced that you are right…then no other information can change your mind. 2+2 will always equal 4 regardless of how many incorrect math assignments you read. It’s only when your argument is weak and you are afraid to learn that you fear another point of view.

        • rg9rts

          That is why they have the fascination with guns and such

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            They have a fascination with guns because they are paranoid and are worried about the size of their own weapon. My husband once told his boss who showed up at work with his new maseratti : “Why don’t you just stand on the corner and drop your trousers and wave at the people as they go by?” His comment was not well received.

          • lallywendy

            Perhaps it was a cold day! x

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I’m sure he’s always using that explanation…It’s either the time of year or the AC is set too low.

          • lallywendy

            Either that use or prefer cms for size rather than inches!

          • rg9rts

            He might have been in his second childhood.

          • lallywendy

            Most men never emerge from their first xoxoxox

          • rg9rts

            Get used to the xooxxoxoxoo stuff

    • rambot02

      Oy to the vey! I enjoyed the tidbit about the SoCarolina representative who mockingly introduced an amendment to this bill that would require the
      Ways and Means Committee to personally approve every college’s reading
      list.

      This amendment would, of course, never pass because it would require every member of the committee to be functionally literate.

  • rg9rts

    HAALLLOOOO come and welcome lallywendy below a timid brit venturing away from the Pub for the first time

    • lallywendy

      Thanks darling you know how shy and timid and docile I am! Maybe naked isn’t the right look for in here but just showing I’m certain and secure about my sexuality! Chin chin clink! xoxoxoxo

      • rg9rts

        I’m giving you a good cover before they look you up on the Pubxoxooxoxo

        • lallywendy

          ssssssssssh hic x

          • Unlisted2u

            Lallywendy — Welcome to this side of the pond..! :)
            You are going to continue with your table dancing lessons on this side, I do hope..? ;o)

          • OneOtherPerson

            This side of the pond?
            I was under the impression we were on that side.

          • Unlisted2u

            Wait..! Where am I..?? (Checking signposts & unfoldable maps..)

            Dang! — I KNEW I shoulda hung a right at Albuquerque..

          • 25sammy25

            No tippy toes allowed in here. lol. !!! xoxoxoxox

          • lallywendy

            Hmmm don’t you start I’m flippin behaving honest….xoxoxoxo

        • 25sammy25

          Two men were out
          golfing. As one was ready to take his shot, a funeral procession drove
          by the golf course. The man stopped what he was doing, put down his
          club, and took off his hat and placed it over his heart. His partner was
          moved by this and said, “That’s the nicest thing I’ve even seen you
          do!” The man looked back at him and said, “Well, that’s the least I
          could do after 20 years of marriage…”

        • lallywendy

          oh do you think I need it? Sigh xxxoooxxxoooxxx

      • Trumbull Desi

        lallywendy – welcome aboard. A nice and friendlier crowd you won’t find anywhere else!

        • lallywendy

          Thank you that’s very kind x

      • Richard M

        Nice to meet you, Lally! Welcome to the Grand Bazaar!….Say. Your shoe is untied!

      • 25sammy25

        Hi Lally – Nah, you won’t be cold in the Bazaar, there’s a big log fire to sit by. xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

    • 25sammy25

      Done as you told me rg, I’m here. Apologies for being so late but had domestic duties to perform !!! lol. Speak later dearest. xoxoxoxo

  • jbiot

    Do we really need less not more competition in the cable business?

    The merger betwixt TW and Comcast – the cable co. from HELL – ain’t making me a happy camper and officials in the O administration have close ties to Comcast. See this for a good read:

    http://www.republicreport.org/2014/comcast-antitrust-revolvingdoor/.

    Here’s Al Franken’s take:

    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/13/al-franken-drops-hammer-comcast-time-warner-deal.html.

    I’m with Al on this.

    • OneOtherPerson

      Wait until FaceBook buys TimeCast.
      We’re nearing the end of the Monopoly game

      • gmb007

        Exactly. Eventually, we’ll have ONE Corporate Overlord.

        • Richard M

          Then not buying cable will be a crime. Just like driving without insurance is now.

          • Cynthia W.

            Cable is the thing that will be phased out, and high speed fiber optic will be the way to go. I wish that mine were one of the cities that Google fiber was considering an investment in.

    • AskandTell

      I’m also with Al. I felt relieved when I cancelled my Comcast cable after the deplorable service I had received through the years. Their parting gift was not shutting off the cable for two weeks just to lessen my refund. Even though my paperwork showed a turnoff date, they know few customers will spend days trying to dispute their thievery.

      I’ve learned that there are so many alternatives to Comcast cable that I wish all customers would cut the cord…they deserve no customers.

      • Robin S Summertown

        I’ve got one that can beat Comcast and TW hands down for poor service and cost. Well, I should say had one, Hughesnet. They are another that provided a decent product ten years ago but has since devolved in to making money at the cost of good service for a price that is head exploding.

        And now that the Fed has gotten involved in providing broadband to the sticks HN keeps adding to an already over loaded system.

      • jbiot

        Hey there Ask – you mean you’re in a market where you’re lucky enough to have more than one cable option? That’s not common. Most of us live in areas where there’s only one cable company (Comcast for us) and don’t necessarily have access to telco DSL.

        Are you thinking of wireless alternatives for those who have only one cable co. and no DSL?

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          We have no choice. We’re stuck with cable vision. All of my neighbors who have tried satellite/dish systems have gone back to the lousy cable as the other was even worse. No fios or other alternative that I am aware of. We have an antenna that will get one station in an emergency.

          • AskandTell

            Do you live in a rural community in NJ? In the city, my HD antenna provides about 30 stations.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Smack dab in the middle of nowhere. We have the antenna for the frequent power failures because usually the cable goes out if the power fails for any length of time. Of course we lose the internet then as well. We can use our iPad for checking for news and emails. Fortunately cell phones keep us connected as well unlike how it used to be.

          • Cynthia W.

            I get about 24 stations, but many are in others languages, like Chinese, so I don’t use them. I get most of the 2-13 channels, and another PBS channel further up numerically. I fill in the spaces with netflix, but the money I save is worth it.

    • Trumbull Desi

      The region where I live is one of 32 in competition for Google Fiber. We are beyond psyched. If I want decent internet connection, I’m chained to TWC. Cannot wait to cut that cord forever. More speed for less price? Yes please!

      • OneOtherPerson

        I’m also chained to TW, and they won’t sell me internet access unless I first purchase basic cable at the minimum. Don’t know how many time I’ve told them I don’t want their damn phone too.

        • jbiot

          I’m with you. Fiends all. And it may get worse.

          • Unlisted2u

            Anyone remember what cable cost when it first came on the scene..??
            In my part of the country it was $4/mo.. HBO was an add’l either fiddy cent or dollah a month..

          • AskandTell

            And the cost of cable was marketed to consumers as commercial-free programming. Once they got the sign-ups, the commercial-free spin was thrown out the window.

          • OneOtherPerson

            I especially love the content free channels.
            100% advertising 100% of the time.

          • AskandTell

            What a racket. Charge cable subscribers for infomercials.

          • Richard M

            Almost as impressive as China billing people’s families 50 cents for the bullet fired into the back of their neck!

          • Unlisted2u

            Signup was $20 or $25.. and that included the settop box & pole-to-house and internal wiring..

            One of the best jobs one could have back then was “the sign up guy..” People were standing in line waiting for you. Easy two grand a week, limited only because you couldn’t get to more households than that..

          • Richard M

            I ‘member when a pack ‘o buhts was 45 cents!

          • OneOtherPerson

            cancer was cheap back then.
            They were a quarter when I was in high school.
            Subsidised by the federal government

          • Richard M

            My parents smoked liked fiends, till they died of cancer in their 40′s.

            The cars back seat was like a building being fumigated. But we were just kids, so adults didn’t have to listen when we begged to have the windows opened.

            Running the A/C cost money, after all.

          • Unlisted2u

            Your folks had a car with a/c..? ;o)

          • Richard M

            Not the 56 ford. But…..Yeah I think the dark lime green Impala with the vertical tail light wings had A/C. Jacksonville in summer is 95 F with 95% humidity……Fortunately summer only lasts nine months a year.

          • OneOtherPerson

            Run outta smokes, just turn on the AC.
            The residual smoke will kill you.

          • Richard M

            Sis and I would be in the back crying and gasping for air. Dad would tell us to shut up, cause if he had to pull the car over he would give us something to cry about!

          • Richard M

            I remember lying on the floorboard, trying to jam my head under the front seats, trying to get a breath of air that wasn’t deadly.

          • Unlisted2u

            Can’t recall an Impala with vertical wings — horizontal only.. Those woulda been ’59 & ’60.. Can’t remember ’61s tho..

          • Richard M

            Yeah. I guess you’re right. I just remember the wings. So ’59 or ’60… I thought it was a nice looking car, but I was a kid.

          • Unlisted2u

            The ’59 “bubble top” Impala is worth big $$s these days, especially if it is a 2-door with the 348CI motor & factory 4-speed.
            I’m pretty sure the ’60 SS Impala was the 1st Impala that offered the 409 as a standard option vs a special order option too..

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Ours did too…all four windows rolled down.

          • Unlisted2u

            Yup — Is known as 455 air..
            Four windows open @ 55 mph..

          • Gin1234

            Richard, I’m so sorry that your parents died so young. Back then, though, the anti-smokers were nothing, and smoking was sacred. My father smoked his cigar all the time in the car, and in restaurants and thought he had a right to do it. I used to go out and sit in the car until they all finished eating, I was so pissssed and embarrassed. I tried fighting smoking in the nineties and managed to get a smoking room put in at work, instead of allowing to smoke at their desks, but then i wasn’t spoken to by a good part of the staff for a long time, too. The apartment I lived in had walls like paper, and a chain smoker next door just about killed me with their fumes. Landlords told me too bad. It was terrible if you were a non smoker back then and if smoke bothered you. You didn’t count. I hope that all the second hand smoke that you took in didn’t have a permanent impact on you. I’m sorry you lost your parents so young. So, so sad.

          • Richard M

            Thanks, Gin!…. It’s like growing up on one planet, then moving to a different one. Sometimes I feel sympathy for smokers when restrictions get too crazy, but then I recall all the abuse and torture smokers inflicted on me and millions of others.

            My Appt is in a non-smoking building, and when I see or smell people smoking, I go straight to the manger! I got one downstairs neighbor booted out.

            The guy and his wife would smoke in the bathroom, and the vent system is connected. I heard him lying to the manager telling him he never smoked indoors. My whole appt, smelled like an ashtray.

            I told the manager the guy was a liar, and the manager booted him! Revenge is sweet!

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I was talking about this with my sister the other night. My parents were like yours…constant smokers. My father even refused to only smoke outside when he visited me after my daughter was born. I haven’t ever smoked even one cigarette of any kind because it’s such a hot button with me. I gave up nagging when my Mom told she didn’t WANT to stop smoking not that she couldn’t stop smoking. My brothers both smoke. One of them gave it up for 12 years and still went back to it. Both are alcoholics as well…the two seem to go together a lot…not every smoker is an alcoholic but I’ve met very few alcoholics that don’t also smoke….merely an observation not a trying to state a scientific fact.

          • Unlisted2u

            Uh-huh..
            Then I’m sure you also remember when the vending machines went to thirty cents a pack — and the cigarette companies put pennies along the side of the packs in order to ‘make change’ for you.. :D

          • Richard M

            Remember the 5 cent Coke machines where you had to pull a metal toggle handle after you dropped the nickle in?

          • Unlisted2u

            Sure do..!
            We had a parts supply store that had one of those for a long time after they’d been phased out. They used it as their “free” soads for customers.. Was very kewl indeed..! :)

          • Richard M

            They were kid sized bottles. Six or seven OZs. Right? And candy bars were cents, too.

          • Unlisted2u

            Yup. Their machine held 7oz’ers.

          • Unlisted2u

            Do you know the two ways to get “free” sodas out of the old lift-top horizontal & small door single vertical row machines..?

            You needed a church key. Horiz you popped the top & used a straw. Vert you popped the top and either chugged the whole thing (belch city) or caught it in a cup..

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Where we lived they were called pony bottles.

          • OneOtherPerson

            LO
            So did we. A NAPA Auto Parts, but they always charged a nickel.

          • Unlisted2u

            Yes! Same thing!
            And that’s what I meant with the “free” — They charged a nickle..
            How kewl..!! :D

            EDIT: To this day I still confuse nickle / nickel..
            Ditto grey / gray..

          • TanzAtNite

            And for 10 cents you could buy a pack of Twinkies at one of those other machines, too. ;-)

        • AskandTell

          That sounds illegal. Anyone can get basic cable channels through an HD antennae.

          • OneOtherPerson

            I suppose they claim internet isn’t a right, it’s a privilege, and I
            have the privilege of buying it from them.

          • AskandTell

            It’s illegal for a company regulated by the FCC to force customers to purchase unneeded services simply because they are a monopoly. Don’t you have CenturyLink in your area for internet?

          • OneOtherPerson

            Only Time Warner. And I suppose I should look into it. It really pissed me off when they said they don’t just sell internet access.

          • Unlisted2u

            Yes, you should, OOP..
            They are in the process of phasing out DSL in my area, which eventually will force us to go to cable..
            I do not have cable TV. I do still have a land line.
            As told to us by an AT&T representative, (AT&T recently swallowed up our Baby Bell provider): We can get internet cable service as a stand-alone — no ‘phone or cable TV strings attached. I’m not sure if that has anything to do with this house still being hardwired, but I don’t believe it does. Seems to me they will need to run another line, but I can’t remember for sure..

            I believe Brighthouse is our sole cable provider. Dish & Direct TV are satellite in area. And I think Comcast also fits in the picture, but don’t know for sure, or how exactly — unless they’re behind one of the satellite cos.

            What makes me suspect about what you’re being told: Two completely different installations are required for TV / internet.
            Perhaps it’s our already existing phone company tie-in..?

          • Sarah Sahasbeen

            That doesn’t make sense. I have TW internet but not tv or phone. TV is through directv. The only other alternative is through Frontier phone company, but I don’t know how reliable that is. Of course, TW went from $39.95 a month two years ago to $63.95 a month now. And if you don’t buy your own modem, it’s an additional 4 bucks a month.

          • OneOtherPerson

            Well, here in northern Ohio, TW charges me $50.30 a month for basic cable and their slowest internet, which still streams movies just fine.
            So maybe I should quit beaching.

          • Sarah Sahasbeen

            They disconnected mine a couple of years ago – by mistake – the other apt. upstairs hadn’t been paying their bill, so the TW clowns cut mine for three weeks. After daily complaints, they finally fixed it, but all I got in return was a “We’re sorry.” Sure, I had no service for almost a month, no refund, nothing else. But like I said, there really isn’t another choice. I’ve checked out satellite internet, but that’s too expensive to consider.

          • gmb007

            That’s an out and out lie. I live in El Paso TX and had TWC internet only for many years.

            Threaten ‘em with going to the State Attorney General and FCC! They’ll change their friggin tune.

          • AskandTell

            When I had Comcast, their package for basic cable/internet was cheaper than just internet.

      • AskandTell

        Lucky you. Comcast has worked with state legislators to write bills which disallows Google Fiber in many states/municipalities.

        • gmb007

          Ain’t the “free market” grand? lol ugh.

    • BungeeCord

      I’ve never lived anywhere that TW or Comcast were options, but I’ve heard nothing but bad feedback for Comcast.

      I’m anything but a financial analyst when it comes to the stock market, but am wondering what effect the buy-out will have on Comcast’s stock value.

      • jbiot

        Not always clear how that plays out. If Comcast were buying TW then likely the stock would go down due to dilution. But if it’s a “merger” then it gets more complicated. Don’t put your life savings on Comcast :)

        • OneOtherPerson

          would imagine anything that size is closer to a merger than buyout.

    • Canukistani

      Good afternoon. I’m a little late on this but this seems like it adds a bit of useful info. Seems that, contrary to what we hear from the right and their big business friends, ‘free markets’ and voluntary guidelines don’t always get it done. Europe, especially the UK has found just the opposite, in fact.

      http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/28/why-is-european-broadband-faster-and-cheaper-blame-the-governme/

      • Unlisted2u

        Dat’z some sick chit, Nuk..
        Welcome to Merika.. :-/

        • Canukistani

          Yup. Same deal here too. Our telecom model is a lot closer to yours than it is to the civilized world. I found that out when my brother moved to England last year. His rates are bargain basement. Better, faster service with a lot more options and for a lot less that he had here.

          We’re in the stone age that’s to the ‘free market’. They never mention that means ethics-free too.

        • Cynthia W.

          Google is using the fiber optic network in a few cities, but I believe that this will expand eventually. Hopefully, this will force competition and lower prices along the way. I just hope it happens while I’m still here to benefit.

          • Canukistani

            Not if the big companies have any say in it :-(

      • jbiot

        Hmmmm. Interesting story Canuk; thanks much for sharing it.

        Here in the US the RW loves whatever big business loves; that “free market” meme is an old and tired notion that the right trotts out when convenient. I don’t think there really is a philosophical or intellectual driver on the right.

        It’s all about $$, and I believe you observed way back on another thread that until the US solves that problem pols will continue lining up at the trough and the public interest is the last thing on their minds. I think you mentioned gerrymandering as the other big road block to sane governance. Right on both counts.

        Oink, oink, oink . . . is all US pols know.

        • Canukistani

          Yeah, there may be a couple of other stumbling blocks, but I think that those two are the biggest.

          On this story, my brother found that in the UK, he gets unlimited bandwidth at 100MB speed, over 200 TV stations, home phone with unlimited international calls of up to 1 hour included for something like $150 a month. I’m not sure if his cell is part of that package as well, but it might well be.

          I can’t imagine that level of service for that price here. So much for free market competition. You’re quite right about the oink factor. That’s what drives it.

          • jbiot

            Lucky bro!

  • VietVet67

    I must’ve been napping in class when the teacher spoke about this:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/20/tom-delay-people-keep-forgetting-that-god-wrote-the-constitution/

    • BungeeCord

      Of course a Republican from TX said that. They can’t fathom the idea that the constitution was written by men who wore wigs, makeup, Capri pants and frilly shirts.

      • VietVet67

        And buckles on their shoes.

      • VietVet67

        Google “Hot Tub Tom” for a few laughs about the bug man from Sugarland.

      • gmb007

        omg, Bungee, that is classic! LOL!!!!

        I am so stealing that, ok? : )

      • thinkingwomanmillstone

        and often slept with other men in their beds…it was common for total strangers who travelled to have to share a bed in an inn.

    • OneOtherPerson

      I did not realize T Jefferson was god.
      I don’t think Tomas did either.

      • BungeeCord

        Didn’t Morris write the Constitution? It’s been a long time since I took a History class.

        • Richard M

          D ick Morris? Or Morris the Cat?

          • BungeeCord

            Morris the cat is almost as orange as Boehner.
            Almost.

  • Richard M

    I went for an hour long drive this morning. So I turned on the radio and OH NOES!!! It’s campaign ad season!

    So one Repub’s ad is, he hears THE WORD! He follows THE WORD! He believes in THE WORD!

    So I’m like, WORD? What word? Bird is a word?….He never did say, so I guess it is one of those things that you are supposed to already know. And if you don’t already know, then you’re a Gawdless heathen. And if you’re a Gawdless heathen, there ain’t no point tryin to explain anything to you!

    Seems pretty close to calling for a mandatory State Religion, to me. Like a multi-tiered society where those who don’t believe in THE WORD, have to wear identifying arm bands.

    • OneOtherPerson

      I’ve always assumed the bird is the word.
      Every time I hear them, I give them the bird.

    • VietVet67
      • Richard M

        Beautiful!

      • TapestryMood

        Oh, …who could forget;-)

      • Unlisted2u

        Family Guy episode, anyone..? LMAO!! ;o)

    • tracey marie

      that was great, I had coffe running out of my nose

      • danforth79

        French roast?

      • Richard M

        You must not live in Texass. If you visit bring along CDs!

    • thinkingwomanmillstone

      I think Groucho says the word is BOZO.

  • AskandTell

    Yesterday, the Star Ledger editorial board called for David Samson’s resignation. This latest story adds to their list of ethical lapses.

    “For the second time in two days, the Port Authority changed its story about a vote taken two years ago that approved leasing 13 acres to NJ Transit — a client of the agency chairman’s law firm — for $1 a year.

    On Wednesday, the agency said the chairman, David Samson, meant to recuse himself from the vote, even though he was recorded in the official minutes as voting in favor of the lease. On Thursday, the agency said the vote was taken by an operations committee because not enough members of the full board were present — even though minutes from the meeting show a quorum of the board with six members voting in favor of the lease. Minutes from the operations committee don’t mention the lease deal, but show three other committee actions.

    The Port Authority’s latest statement came hours after The Record questioned the legality of the lease with NJ Transit. Without Samson’s vote, it appears the action would violate agency bylaws that require three commissioners each from New York and New Jersey to participate in any vote.

    NJ Transit paid Samson’s firm, Wolff & Samson, up to $1.5 million for legal advice on an initiative to maximize profits on its parking lots. On the vote in question, the Port Authority agreed to give NJ Transit a 49-year lease on a North Bergen park-and-ride lot for $1 per year. Previously, NJ Transit had paid more than $900,000 for that lot.”

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/politics/Port_Authority_revises_explanation_of_park-ride_lease_deal.html?mobile=1

    • Sarah Sahasbeen

      Rachel had this story on last night. How they get away with this is beyond reason.

      • Richard M

        Samson is a snake! I saw him Rachel’s show. What slimy weasel!

        • Greta42

          With apologies to weasels everywhere….

      • AskandTell

        This is an update to Rachel’s story. The Record caught them…he cannot recuse his vote because it would make the lease illegal with only five commissioners voting.

        NY has been silent about all of this but their commissioners also have gone along with Samson’s and NJ’s racket.

        • OneOtherPerson

          Nothing like taking responsibility for your actions.
          Hope these guys all end up bunk mates at the big house.

          • Richard M

            I hope they end up bunking with Bubba and Thumper!

          • OneOtherPerson

            Too good a class of prisoners. they’d probably corrupt Bubba

        • Sarah Sahasbeen

          It’s time that they got rid of that slimeball. He really needs to be behind bars. Isn’t conflict of interest enough when he cost the taxpayers close to a million dollars which then went to his law firm?

        • Sarah Sahasbeen

          Thanks. It’s still unbelievable that they really think people are going to buy this malarkey and forget that what they’ve been doing is illegal.

          • Richard M

            Stall, delay, obfuscate. Keep doing it long enough and there will be a war or terrorist attack that sweeps Bridgegate to page 87B.

            It is standard procedure. And it works.

          • AskandTell

            That is what worries me…nothing like calling Homeland Security to implement some of their fear-mongering tactics.

      • AskandTell

        This ties into the civil lawsuit for the toll fare hikes. The Port Authority basically gave away $1 billion in revenue by allowing the NJ Transit to pay no rent.

        • Greta42

          Vile corrupt individuals using their positions to plunder the treasury of the NJ taxpayers and line their own pockets. He needs to be fired/resign NOW before he does even more harm.

    • Denni A

      saw this on Rachel last night. it just boggles the mind the degree and level of deceit and underhandedness these people employ and think they should get away with it and how dare anyone question or report on their shenanigans. Samson should resign or be fired.

  • Denni A

    http://www.salon.com/2013/12/18/fear_and_concern_keeping_msnbc_hosts_quiet_in_union_dispute_afl_cio_suggests/

    MSNBC hosts quiet in union dispute, AFL-CIO suggests

    After alleged union-busting by NBC-owned company, AFL-CIO calls out Maddow, Sharpton, O’Donnell, Schultz and Hayes

    The AFL-CIO urged MSNBC hosts Wednesday to defy “fear and concern” and break their silence about NBC’s alleged anti-union “hypocrisy.” None of the five high-profile progressives they’ve targeted – Rachel Maddow, Al Sharpton, Lawrence O’Donnell, Chris Hayes and Ed Schultz – has so far directly and publicly addressed allegations that NBC-owned Peacock Productions exploited fear tactics and legal tricks to avert unionization. NBC and the five hosts did not immediately respond to Wednesday morning inquiries, or to prior requests for comment over the past week.

    “These hosts have a particular responsibility,” AFL-CIO organizing director Elizabeth Bunn told Salon. “They have respect and they have clout that producers alone don’t have, and they’re part of the larger progressive movement.” She said the five anchors were “uniquely positioned to hear the stories of what their parent company is doing to workers, and broadcast that to the larger American public.” She urged them to follow the “inspirational example” of workers at Peacock Productions – a company that produces some MSNBC programming – who’ve chosen to take collective action.

    interesting to see how MSNBC works around this, Ed Schultz is always railing against union-busting on his show, now that it’s a possibility in their own backyard if the merger goes through between Comcast and TW it will be interesting to see how that plays out on the airwaves. I watch the tail end of The Ed Show when I get home from work and have been disappointed in his about face support for the Keystone XL pipeline .

    • AskandTell

      Will be interesting what Ed Schultz does with this information. The union has backed him into a corner.

    • Gin1234

      Well that’s pretty disgusting. I haven’t been watching them. Did they support the Union side at all during the voting process, or did they just stay quiet the whole way through?

      • AskandTell

        Don’t all of the MSNBC anchors belong to the SAG-AFTRA union?

        • Gin1234

          I would think so, but Ed is usually such a union supporter. Did he stay quiet during this?

          • AskandTell

            I assume so; it wouldn’t be kosher for an anchor to speak up against their employer on something as controversial as unions. I found it interesting that Jay Leno made it a point on his last night to mention that his show is a union shop.

  • Denni A

    I posted earlier this week two links about hogs in Canada and the U.S. with P.E.D. disease, please be aware a recent HSUS investigation has uncovered the massive die-off of piglets
    from the disease were ground up and fed to the mother-sows. the report was on the NYT last night. pork eaters beware.

    http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2014/02/cannibalism-and-the-non-walking-dead.html?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=humanenation

    • Greta42

      What a disgusting situation – the problem of how animals we eat are housed and treated seems to worsen everyday as more is exposed. Greed and inhumanity produce this kind of horror.

    • Gin1234

      I don’t eat pork and most meat ever since I saw a video of how pigs are treated and how one was suffering so much in one of the slaughterhouses in the video. I still haven’t managed to get away from chicken and turkey, though.

      • Denni A

        I haven’t touched pork in almost 20 yrs after learning the horrors of the pork industry. haven’t had turkey in 3 years(for Thanksgiving), I’ve made vegan dishes the last 3 years thanks to my step-daughter. what little meat I do eat
        I buy from the local farmer’s market free range, grass-fed and have them grind it into ‘burgers. It’s hard but I’ve learned I can manage a combination of both worlds if I know where and how the animals are raised and eat them sparingly.

        my main source of nutrition now comes from whole grains, oats, beans, nuts and pasta dishes. cheese and eggs have been the hardest for me.

      • OneOtherPerson

        I buy pork and beef from 4-Hers at the county fair auction.
        Stock up the freezer for the year. Much tastier meat.
        Well treated animals that are butchered as humanly as possible.

        • Denni A

          don’t know if anyone here has heard of Joel Salatin of Polyface Farms in Swoope VA he’s a well known farmer who goes around the country giving lectures and seminars to farmers on raising animals and does tours of his farms teaching the consumer about how food animals should be raised and slaughter.

          If I’m not mistaken he also does his own slaughter and does not truck animals anywhere. we get some of his meat at the farmer’s market where I live, I’m about 4 hours away from his farm.
          haven’t toured it yet..here’s a video of his farm (nothing graphic) where animals are free to move and run.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIbXU5iR2P4

      • lallywendy

        Bacon sandwich is what seems to tempt most non meat eaters back to the dark side!

    • Sarah Sahasbeen

      That’s how mad cow disease started in England and Europe 20+ years ago. The sick dead cows were ground up and mixed into the feed by the feed manufacturers. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but I wasn’t able to donate blood here because I might have been exposed to mad cow when I lived in France. Boost those profits – no matter the consequences. That’s all that counts today.

      • thinkingwomanmillstone

        As far as I know, the ban on donating blood still exists…it was what I was told when I tried in December. I lived in England during the late 70′s and early 80′s, so they won’t let me do it for fear of mad cow disease exposure during that time period, as well.

        • Sarah Sahasbeen

          You’re right. I just checked the Red Cross website, and anyone who spent long periods of time overseas when mad cow disease was rampant is still ineligible to donate.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I think if a family member needs a kidney, I’ll just lie…though I doubt they’d let me donate for other health reasons. But, I won’t let something like this stop me from saving a family member’s life. I doubt that those who were alive in those countries then are denied the right to donate now. I wonder how many cases of later infection have been found to be linked to tainted blood donations? It would be interesting to know how they are handling it.

          • Richard M

            Long periods? So you can’t be infected by eating one bad steak? You have to eat many bad steaks?

          • OneOtherPerson

            Well, the odds do go up as you eat more .

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I think you could get it from one bad steak (ground meat was supposedly more suspicious because they didn’t know what was in it). They just figured that your likelihood of being exposed increased with the length of your visit and the number of your meals…also, they couldn’t just eliminate anyone who visited an affected country for any length of time from the donor pool or they’d be very short of donors. I live in England for just over two years though I spent more time out of the country than in it. As I said it’s been a while but I think the cut off at the time was more than a month.

          • Richard M

            Do you stay on the verboten list forever? They don’t figure you’re not infected after 10-20-30-40-50 or more years?

            Like how I snuck that Red Baron allusion in?

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Good one…never pass up an opportunity to test people’s cultural familiarity. No, apparently there is no known outer limits of risk. It’s been 34 years for me. I’m not really sitting around ringing my hands about it…but I would be a blood donor if I could. I have a valuable blood type. Since my husband was with me, he’s in the same boat. He’s Denny and I’m Denise Crane….know that reference?

        • AskandTell

          Yes, I donate blood every three months (have the type that everyone can use). There are about 100 questions to be answered every time; the recency and length of travel to the UK is one of the questions. And of course, any exposure to mad cow disease.

        • Richard M

          Hi Millie.

          Isn’t there a test for the disease?

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            As far as I know the only way they can definitively diagnose it is at autopsy. It is caused by something called a prion. I think there are several similar diseases caused by prions but the actual prion differs? It’s been a while since I looked it all up.

      • Richard M

        How did the original cow victims catch the disease, before the industry began feeding dead cows to live ones?

        • OneOtherPerson

          Prions are not very well known yet.
          There’s also chronic wasting disease, or CWD, which is almost the same, and infects deer and elk in the United States.

    • FaunaAndFlora

      I’d take anything posted by HSUS with a large grain of salt. In this case, the piglets were fed to breeding sows in order to innoculate the sows against the virus. Meat from the sows should not end up in the food supply. That said, I do have problems with confining sows in gestation crates (not farrowing crates), which is why I buy a side of pork twice a year from a farmer who pastures his hogs.

  • Gin1234
    • TanzAtNite

      That’s a cute video.
      Thank you, Gin.

  • AskandTell

    A Newark Church So Poor It Has to Close Schools, Yet So Rich It Can Build a Palace

    The news out of NJ gives an impression of corruption that has latched onto the fabric of the community. This Newark Archbishop, insists on being called Your Grace, owns a vacation home mansion he uses on the weekends. The 4,500-square-foot home has five bedrooms, three full bathrooms, a three-car garage and a big outdoor pool; it’s valued at nearly $800,000. And as he’s 72, and retirement beckons in two years, he has renovations in mind. A small army of workers are framing a 3,000-square-foot addition.

    This new wing will have an indoor exercise pool, three fireplaces and an elevator. The Star-Ledger of Newark has noted that the half-million-dollar tab for this wing does not include architects’ fees or furnishings.

    There’s no need to fear for the archbishop’s bank account. The Newark Archdiocese is picking up the bill. Two years ago the Archdiocese closed schools claiming poverty.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/20/nyregion/a-church-so-poor-it-has-to-close-schools-yet-so-rich-it-can-build-a-palace.html?src=me&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Most%20Emailed&pgtype=Blogs

    • thinkingwomanmillstone

      I find the assertion that they are building this wing for the price hey are stating difficult to believe. I know what remodeling in NJ costs and it is just not feasible to do what is described for the amount stated. I’ve been enduring a remodeling project since last March and the building materials and labor minus plumbing fixtures, tubs, appliances etc. for 3 baths and a kitchen has cost us nearly 200,000 dollars plus the additional costs of permits. Does what they are describing sound like it would just be about twice what we’ve had to pay. I am sure the good father is not settling for anything but top of the line materials. It’ll be a couple of million and the archdiocese will claim “unavoidable cost overruns”.

      • AskandTell

        Yes, I’m sure the price is double. Like anyone would expect men of god to tell the truth.

    • thinkingwomanmillstone

      I guess if ,as they profess, Jesus suffered for our sins, there’s no need for the good father to be redundant and suffer in his retirement.

    • jbiot

      Hey there Ask.

      Maybe you’re being a bit too hard on the saintly bishops. They have a tough life bringing the gospel of baby Jesus to the little people. Have you ever seen the number of stairs they have to climb to get to the pulpit? Four, may more! Try doing that Sunday after Sunday for a lifetime. Also, looking the other way when children are sodomized again and again and again and again is exhausting!! – and takes it’s toll. So creature comforts for pastors who tend their flocks at great physical sacrifice is maybe the least we can do for them. It may be that a few schools might have to close to serve their earthly and corporal needs – but keep in mind that little kids are flexible and have a whole lifetime to rebound from adult cruelty and ignorance.

      Holy Mother Church, since Peter, has been the seat of deep corruption, profound greed and unspeakable perversion. Are you really suggesting we take that out on the poor bishops?

      • AskandTell

        “Parishioners in Oradell, N.J., also discovered that the archdiocese had allowed a priest accused of sexual abuse to live in their parish’s rectory. A furor arose, and last summer the archbishop sat down and wrote an open letter to his flock. He conceded not a stumble. Those who claim, he wrote, that he and the church had not protected children were “simply evil, wrong, immoral and seemingly focused on their own self-aggrandizement.”

        As to his critics, the archbishop accused the media of refusing to explore the “lifestyles” of the former or marginalized priests who criticize the church. “Lifestyle” is an intriguing kidney punch of a euphemism; presumably the archbishop meant “gay.”

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          I worked in the psychiatric wing of a Catholic Hospital when I was in my twenties. We would occasionally have priests admitted as patients. We, the staff, were not allowed access to their charts nor were the priest/patients required to attend group therapy or group activity sessions as all of the other patients were required as part of their treatment regimen. I wonder how many of the priests were pedophiles being hidden away before being transferred into “greener parishes”?

          • AskandTell

            Very interesting…

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I hadn’t thought of it until quite recently. Only a few of them seemed to be obviously mentally ill (i.e. severely depressed). If the nuns became mentally ill, they were usually just discharged from their order.

          • TanzAtNite

            Some of those nuns when I was grade school were downright abusive.
            I left the Catholic Church many decades ago!
            It’s a very sick cult.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Yes they were. It’s just interesting that priests got “treatment” and nuns were discharged. The hospital was run by an order of nuns and was very definitely run on the male superiority mind set.

          • TanzAtNite

            That “male superiority mind set” was quite common with many of them; I vividly remember a priest walking into a reception for a dinner that they were having (during a retreat I attended long ago), and the moment he walked in the room to join them for the meal, so many of them were swooning over him.
            I remember being nauseated by their reaction.

          • phoebequeen

            Used to work in D.C. at hospital near Catholic University. I had many aides patients from IV drug user to a grandfather who received tainted blood, to several Catholic priests. They tried to hide the fact they were even there or a priest.

        • jbiot

          As the product of Catholic schools don’t even get me started on what I’ve seen in these fiendish little dens of childhood horror. People here have had different experiences with Catholicism. I recall RF saying that he had no special misgivings about his altar boy days. Me, not so much.

          The RC is the seat of pure unadulterated hypocrisy. It is a business, and whether you look at the torture of innocents during the inquisition and the Crusades, or to their indifference during WWII while Hitler was savaging over 6,000,000 Jews, or to their ongoing disregard for the sodomizing of kids down through the centuries – they are a vile, contemptible and fiendish business.

          Whatever the lowest level was in Dante’s inferno, they belong in it!

          Was that too strong?

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            My altar boy, catholic educated through University, husband would agree with you completely.

          • jbiot

            It’s weird twm but I always find that people like me who went to Catholic schools came out the most jaded.

            Hmmm. Wonder why?

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Knowledge is power.

          • jbiot

            :)

          • Richard M

            Come on JB. Tell us how you really feel!…;-}

          • jbiot

            Hey there Rich.

            If anything I was guilty of understatement :)

          • AskandTell

            Not strong enough.

            Reasonable estimates suggest that over 2,000 kids were abused in the parishes and archdiocese where Myers was in charge since the late 1980s.

        • jbiot

          Where is nancy when you need her? I think her unique brand of acerbic wit is called for here to lighten things up. She’s got that Gail Collins touch that usually has me on the floor LOL.

    • gmb007

      That “holy” b#st#rd better hope he’s a freakin camel cause otherwise his sorry azz is gonna get good and stuck in that eye of the needle.

      • AskandTell

        I want a feel good article..meaning this Sunday congregations under this archbishop tell their priests that aren’t getting one more dime from them until they follow the edict of Pope Francis and change their ways. And they plan on organizing Sunday pool parties at the mansion since they paid for it.

    • BornOkayTheFirstTime

      Every time I feel like I’m regaining faith in humanity, crap like this comes along and ruins it all over again. Sigh.

  • HessenBalkan

    Is that Baazar picture from Istanbul? I’ve been there, I think it’s taken there. A very cool place to visit!

    • Richard M

      Hiya, HB.

      Istanbul is my guess. I’ve never been there but it looks like a fun place to visit!

      • HessenBalkan

        Hi Richard,
        yes it was very interesting to visit. They all try to sell you something but when you are a bit familiar/comfortable with that culture it’s not a problem. We had a couple nice experiences and came home with some nice leather goods.

    • thinkingwomanmillstone

      Looks like the bazaar from Istanbul to me. It was a very long time ago but I went there a few times. Great place to visit back then. I hope it hasn’t changed too much. One of my favorite cities to visit 30 plus years ago.

      • HessenBalkan

        I was 2 years ago there with my daughter, we took a 10 hr bus ride to Istanbul, that was quiet an experience. The Grand Baazar was really cool, maybe a bit more a mess then how it looks on that picture. Anyway very cool.

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          A city with phenomenal architecture and a lot to see.

          • HessenBalkan

            Yes, we spend 4 days just in the old part of town (and a short trip over the Bosporus to Asia). Our hotel had the restaurant all the way on the top floor and the view day or night was incredible. I actually would like to go soon back, I feel like these 4 days were not long enough. Oh and the food is good too.

    • OneOtherPerson

      A google image search shows it’s a stock photo from Istanbul on May 1st, 2013.

      Computers are amazing

      • HessenBalkan

        I didn’t think of doing that but yes, now I see the link “Baazar shot via Shutterstock”

      • BornOkayTheFirstTime

        What I learned from nearly three and a half decades of experience: Computers are advanced idiot boxes capable of nothing on their own. Humans supply the ingenuity to make them do interesting things.

        • OneOtherPerson

          Tools, the good kind.
          And tools can be pretty cool when in the right hands.

  • Cougar90210

    We’ve had a fair amount of discussion recently about encouraging people here to make comments on the ET threads. So, I went to one that I thought might have generated some interest – the one on getting the uninsured fully served under the ACA. http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/521279-getting-uninsured-into-health-care-system-a-national-challenge/?photo=3
    And now that I’ve taken a little time this morning writing something, there is one comment (actually two – I added another little clarification comment) on the thread. This is what I continually run into here. No one goes to these articles, so I feel like I might as well be talking to myself in the shower.

    Anyway, if anyone’s interested in that topic in the least, I did make a comment over there. So, feel free to weigh in and give your own thoughts.

    • Canukistani

      I’ve seen the same thing sometimes. Sometimes an article resonates and sometimes it doesn’t. I’ve had people follow up on some of the things I’ve pointed out and add comments and sometimes not. I do think it’s worth doing though.

    • HessenBalkan

      Maybe it will just take some time for people to get into that more.

    • phoebequeen

      Hey, cougar. I’ve noticed that too. I’ve commented on a few articles and noticed I was sometimes the only one too.

      • Cougar90210

        It’s kinda discouraging. And quite honestly, there just aren’t that many articles offered here that strike my fancy, or that I would even begin to have something to say about. And that’s pretty obviously true of others, or else we wouldn’t be going to empty comment sections so often.

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          I’ve tried. The site also requires a lot of clicking to maneuver.

        • phoebequeen

          I like commenting on articles too. Found a lot of good ones on Raw Story as well as fomer hp’ers. I think people were just so happy to find each other again and a place to kvetch about what happened, this place just seemed right.

          • Cougar90210

            I’m with you on that, and I’ve gone to some other DISQUS sites that have some pretty compelling articles. ET is a great site in many ways, imo, and the hosts have been very gracious in allowing all the kvetching and the music sharing and everything else. It’s just that I’ve detected something of a concern that a lack of engagement in the articles offered here could result in a closing off of our ability to “socialize.” I would hate to see that happen, and I want to do my part to keep something like that from happening. But I’m feeling a bit frustrated in my efforts. Oh, well, I’m just one person, so I’ll try to do my part, and que sera, sera.

          • phoebequeen

            I will go peruse an article or two now.

          • Winky Cat

            Was just there looking at a couple of cute animal stories/pictures. The “run-away” puppy is adorable!

            I just responded to Gin1234 on an article about Repub governors like the one in PA where we both live.

          • phoebequeen

            Hey Winky. Saw your comment about the guy who got locked out of his car in NYC. So nice to hear good news.

          • Winky Cat

            Hi PhoebeQ! I’ve been really trying to read and respond to stories here @ ET. And I have found a number of “good news” and cute animal stories here that I have thoroughly enjoyed. However, for news, I too have been visiting Raw Story.

          • Gin1234

            There is one about Ted Cruz, and one about the Democrats trying to take some of the governorships over this year. Not as inflamatorily written as the ones on HP, but once in a while there is a good enough one to comment on. If you like crime, there are plenty about the most recent murders, and lost people, child abductions etc.

          • Cougar90210

            Thx. I’ll check it out.

  • VietVet67
    • TanzAtNite

      Noooooooo!
      But, thanks for the warning.

    • phoebequeen

      Make it stop for the love of God!!!!

    • rambot02

      As Bill Maher has noted, “The $#it doesn’t fall far from the bat.”

      • VietVet67

        Good examples: Ted Cruz and his papi, Rand and Ron Paul…

        • rambot02

          And the people who vote for them.

          • VietVet67

            Roger that.

    • OneOtherPerson

      LOL
      The comments over there are ahoot. Even talked to Forpeace there.

      • Winky Cat

        I read some and got a good laugh. Did you see the comments from the one guy who wanted to support her?

    • Gin1234

      As long a you can be fairly certain some of these lunatics won’t win, then it can be viewed as entertainment and a chance for people to further reject the teaparty types as nut cases. All’s good.

    • HessenBalkan

      I don’t know her but she’s got a very intense look in her eyes.

      • gmb007

        You mean deranged? lol

        Hi, Hessen! :)

        • HessenBalkan

          Hi 007!

          Like she is taking some pills…a couple of different ones :-)

      • VietVet67

        “According to her platform, Taitz would rein in unconstitutional spying
        on state residents, and end the “unconstitutional discriminatory
        Obamacare tax levied on some of the citizens of CA and waived for
        corporations.”

        Wait, what about Benghazi and ACORN?

        • HessenBalkan

          I just read a couple of her claims on Obama and other stuff….yeah definitely sounds crazy. I can’t see her getting a lot of votes in the California region.

          • OneOtherPerson

            Central CA has some pretty red necks in the crowd.

      • VietVet67

        She wasn’t born in this country, therefore I think she’s a commie spy.

        • Winky Cat

          Hi Viet Vet, I definitely agree! Every time I see/hear about her, I think of Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle!

    • Richard M

      Why does the story have a photo of a Zombie from Walking Dead at the top?

      • Winky Cat

        {snicker} Hi Richard!

        • Richard M

          Hiya Winky!

          How’s your weather and your day going? 65 F here!

          • Winky Cat

            Day is going great, and I hope yours is as well. Foggy, drizzly, low 50′s and melting the snow!

          • Richard M

            Cool!……. I mean warm!….What State are you in?….I’m in Texass.

          • Winky Cat

            Pennsylvania, and yes it is warm for us! Glad it’s melting the old dirty snow.

      • VietVet67

        You think we can fix her up with PoopyPants Nugent or is she too ancient for him?

        • thinkingwomanmillstone

          Since she’s a dentist and has an accent, she’d be wise to enunciate very carefully when she tells Ted to rinse and spit.

          • Winky Cat

            Hey Millie! A dentist, lawyer (?), real estate broker, who knows what else? What’s that old saying…Tinker of many trades, master of none?

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Hey Winky…we have a pretty big thunderstorm going on right now…lots of fog as well. I’m supposed to be napping but I’m not. I’m going to be paying for it later tonight . Oh well…it’s my own fault.

          • Winky Cat

            Foggy and rainy here, No thunder YET, but it could be on the way. I had a little nap earlier after lunch. Hopefully after the thunder, you can catch a few “winks”!

          • OneOtherPerson

            A dentist in the Tparty isn’t going to get much business.

          • VietVet67

            Especially if she has a lisp when she says “spit”.

        • Richard M

          Scary Movie Six!

  • phoebequeen

    4minutes left in US/Canada hockey. Canada 1-0. Nail biting going on here!

    • phoebequeen

      FUDGE!

      • thinkingwomanmillstone

        I guess I don’t need to watch the game I’ve been recording.

        • phoebequeen

          Just call me Kramer!

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I’ll live. I probably would have heard somewhere along the way until I get back from SO late tonight.

          • phoebequeen

            Oops. Thought you were kidding.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I was recording it to watch with my husband. He always says he can tell how a game comes out if I know the score ahead of watching the tape. I don’t say anything but I guess he’s got Spock’s mind meld ability and he insists he can tell. We won’t be home until after 10pm so I’ll just probably snooze on the couch in front of the game anyway while he watches it and hope I don’t give it away. But we are taking a dozen of our athletes to a bowling clinic tonight so there is probably no way that he won’t hear as well. Bowling tonight, soccer tomorrow and a long weather postponed dinner/dance tomorrow night. We’ll have to record anything we want to watch so I’ll just stay off the net.

          • phoebequeen

            Yeah, your going to hear it somewhere as it was US and they were undefeated.

          • Cougar90210

            But really, this has been a problem with these Olympic Games, in general. Given the fact that virtually everything is brought to us by NBC in a delayed mode, it is all but impossible to keep from learning about the results before you get to watch it. I finally gave up on trying to avoid it, just found out who won, etc., and then watched the event (if still interested) to appreciate the athletes’ skills. I honestly wonder what the viewing audience has looked like for these Olympics. I’m betting that it’s down significantly.

            I feel your pain, though.

          • phoebequeen

            We’ve been watching it live on NBC sports network channel.

          • Cougar90210

            But we don’t have that channel.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            You really can’t watch anything on the news or even listen to the radio trying to catch the traffic report and not find out.Certainly you can’t turn on your computer. The coverage bounces around a lot as well. I don’t really care if I know the outcome with some events but I really hate how they stretch some things out. I wanted to watch some curling that was on during the overnight. I recorded a four hour block of coverage. It took them the whole four hours to watch one curling match. They’d show an end and then go do other sports; come back and show a couple more ends and leave. Fortunately, I had it taped and could fast forward through the other parts but it was impossible to get any continuity and they didn’t show a lot of rocks. They’d come back in the middle of turn. It really bothers my husband, if he knows the score ahead of time…especially in a team sport like hockey. You can enjoy a figure skating performance or the aerials even if you know the outcome.

          • Richard M

            What is SO?

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            Sorry, Special Olympics. My son is very involved and therefore so are we. My husband and I do some coaching, a lot of chaperoning and even more cheering. It’s usually about 4 activities a week but this weekend it’s tonight, tomorrow afternoon and another thing in the evening….Bowling clinic tonight, soccer practice tomorrow afternoon and a social activity tomorrow night.

          • Richard M

            Awesome! You deserve a nice couch nap with such a schedule! Unless your kittehs decide it’s playtime!

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            They sleep all day so they can be more effective in their nighttime maneuvers. Cats are supposed to be stealthy but mine sound like elephants running around.

          • gmb007

            Cats are not always graceful!

            Once, my big 16 lb boy Sammie tried to jump from the edge of the tub onto the back of the toilet and accidentally hit the handle with his paw and flushed the toilet! LOL

          • TanzAtNite

            lol Now, that’s a cool cat!

          • phoebequeen

            Hey, they are having events here in New York state too. Lots of good feelings all around with these games.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            This is an especially busy year for New Jersey Special Olympics the 2014 Special Olympics Summer Games (held every four years, of course) are being held in New Jersey this June. So we have additional events and practices related to this. My son will be participating in his second SO National Summer Games this year. Four years ago he got to go to Lincoln Nebraska to compete. It’s given him so many learning experiences. There’s a polar bear plunge this weekend. We sponsor a couple of athletes but there’s no way I’m going to willingly jump in the Atlantic Ocean in February.

          • phoebequeen

            We have a local Polar Bear plunge in the village every year. Haven’t had the guts to jump in but have helped with the fund raising part. It’s fun to watch though.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            I guess I could blackmail supporters into paying not to see me in a bathing suit…it might be a good fund raising technique.

          • phoebequeen

            LOL!

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            A bad day at special olympics often beats a good day at anywhere else.

          • phoebequeen

            Agree. There is a brother and sister that help out at my son’s school on the football team. They are the most loving people. I love getting hugs from them. It is an immediate pick me up! I think it benefits the boys too. They have helped the team for years now.

          • thinkingwomanmillstone

            There’s a recent program that SO has started with unified teams. It’s a team made up of typical athletes with Special Olympians. Some colleges have started them as well as some high schools as well as local training programs. There will be unified teams competing in this summer’s National Games as well as traditional teams made up entirely of special olympians. It’s an effort to get more community people involved and foster inclusion that might open future opportunities for the disabled population.

  • jbiot

    I’m wondering if TET is gonna run out of metaphors for places “to discuss the news, politics and the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.”

    We’ve had 4, not including the early ones that I think were nameless:

    Public Sq 1
    Public Sq 2
    The Agora
    The Grand Bazaar.

    That excludes the House of Commas that Canuk tickled into life after the Agora exploded from an excess of good times. If they wanted to settle on one and cut it off at 10K and then roll it over by dropping the first-in comments down thread – I’d be ok with that. Then again, I sort of like seeing how inventive TET is with new names :)

    Either way, gotta love TET.

    • phoebequeen

      They certainly have been hospitable. Wonder if the people over at North Korean site have noticed all this new traffic?

      • gmb007

        Kim Jong Un is probably putting a call into the UN as we speak, against the vile HP human rights and free speech abuses. lol

        • TanzAtNite

          LOL

          I’ve got a list of them.

    • OneOtherPerson

      We have a whole universe to visit. Never run out of names in cyberspace.

    • gmb007

      I love the new forum names and photos. Gidon is so creative. : )

      Just more proof that ET really, really loves us.

      This is the kind of lighthearted fun you’ll never see at HP.

      • jbiot

        Right you are gmb, and we love’m back.

        HP, aka the temple of gloom and doom, had only one idea of fun – TORTURING us with the message:

        “this comment is potentially from the mind of a troll and we therefore reserve the right to have our board of licensed troll professionals study it surgically for the next 24 hours to determine whether there is any troll content, subliminal or otherwise, that may bring dishonor to the Huffington brand, or to its parent AOL, both of whom believe that fighting the good fight against trolls requires that the comment community be gutted like a fish, stripped of privacy and free speech, and have their cell #s given aka sold to Facebook.”

        Or something like that :)

        How soon we forget.

        • gmb007

          omg, Jbiot, you’ve perfectly nailed their brand of insanity! LOL

          Their entire business model is perverse and sick.

        • TanzAtNite

          That’s brilliant, jbiot!

      • BungeeCord

        Gidon is creative.
        I would’ve just called it ‘the water cooler.’ ha!

    • HessenBalkan

      Maybe they will open a site where everyone can give suggestions for new names :-)

      • jbiot

        Hey Hess, that’s a great idea. What fun that would be.

      • Richard M

        Scuttlebutt!

        • jbiot

          Good one, thumbs way up on that :)

        • HessenBalkan

          lol what in the world is a Scuttlebutt?

      • geezer 56

        The Riff Raff Bar & Grill.

        • gmb007

          YOU are so creative! LOL Love it.

          • geezer 56

            :)

        • jbiot

          Love it!

        • Canukistani

          To be followed by The Outcast Saloon?

          • geezer 56

            And the Black Sheep Holding Pen?

          • Canukistani

            Troll Bridge Tavern?

        • HessenBalkan

          Something like this Mob Bar…listen to the music introduction on that site

          http://mobbarlv.com/

          • geezer 56

            I like, I like! But it’s a tad more sophisticated than I had in mind. I guess I was thinking more on the lines of a biker bar with Steppenwolf or the Allman Brothers blaring in the background…

          • HessenBalkan