New Comment Requirements on Huffington Post Riling Users; Many Are Leaving


New requirements on Huffington Post, also known as HuffPost, are riling many users and prompting some to leave the website altogether. 

In order to “maintain a civil environment for real conversation,” the new requirements focus on getting users to create an account using their full name or their first name and last initial, according to Huffington Post.

But the account must connect to a person’s Facebook, and the person’s Facebook must be verified. That means giving Facebook your phone number, because the only way to get verified on Facebook is through a text sent to your phone.

The move has upset many Huffington Post users, as seen in the comments on a piece by Poynter about the move.

Poynter points out that among the top 50 news sites in the U.S., all but seven permit commenting via Facebook, but only three required a Facebook account to connect. Many websites use plug-ins that accept users from other social networks, such as Twitter and Google+.

One user, “TheRewd,” said on the piece that he refused to become verified on Facebook because he didn’t want to give Facebook his phone number, and he was also upset for the connection.

“This has to do with one thing and that being the data contained in my Facebook account,” he said. “I was not about to give HP access to that just so they could further their advertising not only to me but also my ‘friends.’ They say it’s about ‘civility’ but you’re talking about a site that has one of the most onerous filters in the industry plus a system that ‘premoderates’ every comment. In practice that means you have ideologically driven moderators who spike comments most times simply because they disagree with the point being made, not for any amount of civility though I guess having a website made up of nothing but people who think alike might be considered civil. HuffingtonPost is extremely protective of their contributors and will go to great lengths to not publish comments that disagree with them.”

UPDATE: HuffPost Sees Mass Exodus as More Users Reject New Comment System

Another user added: “Yep. I’m done with HP also. Its all about getting personal data for their advertisers (and possibly a side deal HP made with Facebook). I suppose I’ll have to get my news from actual news websites now. Goodbye HP!”

Another one added: “Goodbye HuffPo. People have to be CRAZY to link all their internet activity back to any single acct. HuffPo must be nuts if they think people will feel comfortable discussing controversial topics such as personal relationships, politics or religion using their real names that can eventually be traced to their Facebook account where employers can punish people they disagree with.”

Yet another said: “I’ve had an account with HP for five years. Cancelled it yesterday and won’t be back. The whole situation, from premise (‘This will make people more civil’) to broken promise (‘Existing users won’t be affected’) is just weird, and the way it was sprung on us was extremely disrespectful.”

UPDATE: HuffPost Exec Dismisses Widespread Criticism of New Comment System

Tim McDonald, director of community for Huffington Post, explained the changes in a post on December 10.

“When you log in to your account and go to make a comment, you will be prompted to link your commenting account to your verified Facebook account. Then, choose how you’d like your name to be displayed. You can either display your first and last names, or your first name and last initial. This is the only information that will be viewable to the community at large, and you will have control over your private information via Facebook’s privacy settings,” he said.

“If you do not want to link your Huffington Post account to Facebook, you can still log in to your account and fan and fave other users and their comments. And if, for whatever reason, you fear posting a comment under your name — if you are a whistleblower, or fear harassment, or any other reason — you can apply for the right to comment anonymously by filling out this form.”

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  • TheRewd

    Came here to read this story when suddenly …. HELLO! :D

  • John Doe

    Thank you Epoch Times. This and the thread over on Poynter are the only two hits on all of Google about the December 10 suicide of the Huffington Post.

    The rest of the news and blogosphere are strangely ignorant and/or silent about the largest thing AOL has ever sucked down.
    I used to have thousands of fans over at the HuffPo with snarky comments such as the above. They are leaving in droves in the last 24 hours.

    • SmotPoker

      As did I my friend, and I think suicide is the correct term for what went down on December 10th 2013. I’m leaving a couple thousand friends behind, but I retain a modicum of privacy. I look forward to seeing you here in the future.

  • Gregory Roth

    Well I deleted my account today, and encourage everyone else to aswell! This kind of crap is getting too prevalent and people have to stop putting up with it.

    • Ed

      Yep. Deleted mine too. Huffington Post is a piece of cr_p anyway, so this was actually a good thing.

    • Nokilissa

      Deleting mine next. I’m truly disappointed. Huffpo had already made discussions more onerous and odd with the new format, but this? Crazy. I’m sick to death of the idea that we are all supposed to be open and available to anyone THROUGH FACEBOOK no less, on line. And knowing it is really about advertising and money makes me even more angry. I’m going to miss some of the connections I’d formed there.

  • John Doe

    Thank you Epoch Times. This and the thread over on Poynter are the only two hits on all of Google about the December 10 suicide of the Huffington Post.

    The rest of the news and blogosphere are strangely ignorant and/or silent about the largest thing AOL has ever sucked down, the Huffington Post.

    I used to have thousands of fans over at the HuffPoo with snarky comments like the above. They are leaving in droves.

    • ChrisDC

      Guess what? They are (like me) leaving in droves…but…HuffPo is still showing me as an active user even though I deleted my account. Same thing with my fans and friends who, with one exception I can find, have posted nothing since December 10.

      Do you think they’re worried their advertisers might get spooked if they told the truth about what’s going on?

      I’m going to see what I can do to get the word out. :-)

      • SmotPoker

        Advertisers pay for clicks. No clicks, no dollars. No readers, no clicks. No comments, nothing worth reading, no clicks…..

        • ChrisDC

          Yep, I keep trying to keep my curiosity to a minimum. The clicks count for them whether we post or not.

          • SmotPoker

            I hear you. It’s like driving past a car wreck, you don’t want to look but you do, you always do…

      • Lindstr7

        Did you try logging out? I logged out after cancelling and even though my name is still there, I’d need to sign up through FB or whatever to reopen. What gets my goat is that they can probably reserve the right to use our comments without our permission retroactively (not that I care) but the gall. Just like facebook announcing that they OWN the information on FB. I have a VERY bad taste in my mouth over this.

  • Cynth

    Many people have addressed the various flaws with this policy, so I won’t; but the application to comment anonymously hasn’t received as much attention. How will HP do this? Will they verify the person through another means? If so, why do others need to use Facebook? If not, why bother with the policy in the first place? How will HP determine the legitimacy of the application?

    This is another indication of how this idea and execution is ill-conceived.

    • Gregory Roth

      The application to reply anonymously also requires facebook authentication, I tried it already.

      • Cynth

        I see, thanks. So, what’s the point in applying? Why would a whistle blower, for example, bother? This whole this reeks…

        • LaFemmeNikitty

          So zey can haff zee informasshion for dere fells. Vissle blowers iss first on zee list uff detaineez.

          • John Doe

            Ve half vays of letting you talk—about yourzelf on Facebook.

        • Gregory Roth

          Guess it would make sense if Facebook was %100 trustworthy, but unfortunately we live in the real world… so there is no point.

        • SmotPoker

          There is no point to it, your request will be promptly ignored. I immediately petitioned on their form, and I have yet to hear squat back from them. I’m not holding my breathe, but I am also not going to HP either.

    • ChrisDC

      I tried it, and didn’t get a response.

      I suspect that, rather than a blanket exemption, they’re offering a comment-by-comment, case-by-case, exemption.

      Although, if they were a credible news organization, anything that met that test would warrant an anonymous guest column, not just an anonymous comment.

      However, as I said, they’re not thinking very clearly.

      • Cynth

        Yes, I’ve read other applicants haven’t received responses, too, so I didn’t even bother.

    • LaFemmeNikitty

      They will tell readers sometime down the road that they can’t distinguish between a whistle blower and whistling dixie, so everyone will have to be FB phone verified.

  • geezer 56

    How weird. This sudden fame is going to my head…

  • http://soapblox.com/ SoapBloxDotCom

    Yeah I think this is the last straw for me as well. I have been teetering on leaving for a long time because of the increasingly dishonest eye-grabbing headlines, the emphasis on entertainment stories and the increasingly Animal-Farm like shift from the blog that once took on the establishment to a just another sensationalist “news” site filled with schlock.

    Why just today they put a story at the top about how “Girl on Girl Action is on the Rise”. Uhm, you mean women admitting to a single lesbian encounter? Oh, well that’s not that exciting as the porn reference. Or, how many times have you seen: “It’s Over” over a celebrity couple I’m supposed to know by their looks. Or how about you click on the headline that promises one thing and then turns out to be nothing what they promised. Plus stop finding a segment from last night’s Daily Show or Colbert and turning it into an excuse to cash in! Half the time it’s misleading, the other half it’s like a 2 paragraph article that should be titled, “What Jon Stewart Said Last Night”.

    Oh and my personal favorite, the “All We Want For Christmas Is A Twinkie Machine” (that’s a real one on there right now), headline. Who is “We”? Speak for yourself and stop trying to be a teenager, I could go on and on but you get the point. Or should I say, WE get the point.

    It’s sad because I remember when HuffPost was just politics. I don’t mind a little celebrity news or comedy or LGBT whatever, it should just be held to standards. Standards are collapsing in the Internet Age and Ariana once spoke so highly of her organization as she lambasted the major media. I here her speak sometimes and I wish I could ask her, have you even looked at your site lately? My guess is NO.

    • ChrisDC

      Ditto on everything you said.

      But I think my favorite stupidity were the links saying, “Read about it here,” which took you to Upworthy.

      Which is a video site.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        And videos that won’t load half the time unless you subscribe to Hulu!

        • ottlh

          Which doesn’t work in Canada. :(
          We just get a screen where the video should be telling us that the video is only available to the US.

          BTW, your name is fantastic!

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Thank you :)

            Obviously HP is trying to force you Canadians to move over to this side of the border. More click revenue, probably :O

          • ottlh

            They’re out of luck then. I’ll keep my healthcare, gun control and fanatical hockey fans. Also, sorry about Ted Cruz. I don’t know what happened with that one.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Can’t we deport him? Maybe he should be deported to his father’s homeland. The whole family’s a bunch of carpetbaggers. Obviously Canada wouldn’t put up with it, or we drew the short straw. And you can keep hockey! Except, hmm … who won the Stanley cup a few months ago????

          • ottlh

            Great idea! I was thinking that a small uninabited island near the pole would be okay but I’m worried he’d do more harm than good. Cuba sounds far better.

            Did you really have to bring up the Stanley Cup at a time like this? All of Canada is still in mourning. We keep looking for the next southern US team at risk of bankruptcy so that we might have a chance of getting them to come up here (it worked for the Jets). You should have seen the press coverage the year that Pheonix appeared to be on its last legs. If we can increase the number of teams here by decreasing the number of teams in the US… there might be a chance.

          • ChrisDC

            Don’t worry about him. He’s spinning out of control pretty fast.

            Besides, one of my roommates and best friends in college was from Canada. An extremely civilizing influence. One year for Spring Break, rather than flocking down to Ft. Lauderdale or something with everybody else, we went ice fishing in northern Ontario. We got sunburned anyway, and the beer was better.

          • Guest

            Good to hear. One of our magazines up here suggested giving him all sorts of Canadian themed gifts for Christmas to help remind Americans that he’s not really one of them (http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/12/11/christmas-presents-for-stephen-harper-kim-and-kanye-and-our-other-favourite-newsmakers/).

            lol. We do have good beer. However, I do hear that you guys have quite a growing industry of craft brewers.

          • ottlh

            Sorry about the comment showing up as “guest.” That was me responding but I guess it didn’t link with my profile for some reason.

          • Quick Brown Dog

            At least you guys have Rush, while we just have… Rush.

          • ottlh

            Sorry about that one too. Also, thanks for taking Celine Dion and Justin Bieber off our hands.

          • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/djzebbie Quick Brown Dog

            If we sacrifice both of them to the volcano gods, maybe we can have John Candy back?

          • ottlh

            Oh that would be the best!!!!! Where is the nearest volcano god?

        • Leslie

          Or videos that start up automatically and won’t let you stop them. Grrrrrr. I want to read the story, thank you. Oh, well – one more thing NOT to miss.

  • http://www.expnowhere.com/ Mr.B

    I have only commented on their posts, because I didn’t have to register (just like here on EpochTimes). I mean, I have no problem with registering, but when someone asks me for verification and only way to do so is by using FB account, it makes me feel constrained from my freedom of choice. From now on, they can keep their comment system for themselves.

  • ottlh

    Is there a way to find out how many commenters they’ve lost since the new policy (along with how many profiles still haven’t yet linked to Facebook)?

    • LaFemmeNikitty

      You can tell who hasn’t linked by looking at the profile pages of your friends. At least, I *think* their names will have to change (yesterday I read the majority of users couldn’t figure out how to keep their screen name only unless they use a mobile app).

      • ottlh

        I noticed that yesterday as well. It didn’t look like many of my friends had changed their names. I did notice that there weren’t as many though.

    • LaFemmeNikitty

      I’m wondering now if HP will let users opt out, or think they are deleting their subscriptions but keeping the screen name active. ChrisDC said he deleted his profile yesterday but he still shows up in my friends list.

      • SmotPoker

        I think we were friends as well… I’m not deactived as of yet. I go to the profile page and can see all the friends and fans with a big red X next to them indicating that they said Hasta La Bye Bye.

  • Steve

    Closed my account today, I have no desire, need or want a facebook account. I get enough rubbish without complete strangers harassing me with their crap.

    HuffPost will regret this imposed PC Brigade claptrap, I expect them to start charging for content next. Well I’m done with it.

    • Cynth

      This doesn’t seem to be about being PC, as much as it is a business decision. It decided to get bed with FB rather than apply resources to minimize trolling. If they had really wanted to reduce trolls, they could have applied a long time ago a number of more reasonable and effective techniques that other sites use.

  • James

    After 5 years and a couple of thousand comments, HuffPo decided that my involvement in their community was less important to them than my name, so I closed my account and hope many others do the same.

    • Jrlh

      Yep, I refused to link to FB also….I am not going to verify with cell-phone # My account has been closed….Although it does not seem HP has been fast to get rid of the accounts.

    • somepeoplelikeit

      Right there with you. It’s sad that the community means nothing to them. It’s their greatest asset.

      • SharynTG

        They can kiss my asset.
        ;)

        • Rick Urban

          Ha!!!

      • GallopingGoat

        …was their greatest asset. Superusers are complaining of losing followers in the hundreds as people resign their accounts.

    • SharynTG

      I did and I hope others come here.

      • dvncmdy

        Me too!

        • SharynTG

          Spread the word!!!!

          • Nokilissa

            I’m in! I think I’m now “following” you, though the whole thing feels very discombobulating to me. I was so used to Huffpo….getting sick of it, true, but it was the devil I knew. Now that community of fabulous, smart, progressive voices has scattered into the wilds of the online universe. It is a real bummer.

          • SharynTG

            It’s all good. Thanks! You can use disqus all over the place, too. When I need a gossip fix I head over to US Weekly, they use Disqus too. :)

    • slick move but massive fail HP

      Just closed mine..I suggest people leave en masse

      • SharynTG

        If they don’t, they are truly sheep who are dumb enough to be forced into opening FB accounts! Baaaaaaaaa!

        • Jennifer Malcom

          I have to say I found it odd to read comments that read ” I only signed up on FB so I could comment and protest”…HUH?!?!?!? That makes about as much sense as a yellow hole in snow!

          • SharynTG

            Truth! Although, I’m not staying, but I have been over there peppering that one blog article to get the good people to come over here. Ill do it another day maybe then quit. I’m so mad at huff.

          • Lindstr7

            Vega made “EpochTimes.com” their micro bio. Genius.

          • Sharyn G.

            Awesome!!!!

      • SharynTG

        Love your screen name. Imagine all the sheep over there blindly following Master’s orders to open a Facebook account.

        It’s exactly the kind of story huff would write ABOUT!

        • ChesapeakePirate

          Hugs, on that one, Sharyn!!!

          • SharynTG

            I went and looked on that Tim guy’s thread. Surprisingly there are sheep over there. I can’t believe people are dumb enough to take orders.

            I had connected my FB account there in 2011, but ill be danged if I’m gonna do it because anyone DEMANDS that I do. What fools.

        • Skalavagr

          Guys, guys – you have to open a Facebook account but it doesn’t have to be in your REAL name! And nor do you need a cell phone to “verify” it…. I would say more but I don’t want to be censored ;)

          • SharynTG

            But that’s not the issue-

            They WANT you to create a junk account, because FB NEEDS NEW BUSINESS.

            There was an article three weeks ago on huff saying their accounts were down and that they had decided to lower their age requirement to 13 to attract new accounts.

            Now suddenly FB has this deal with huff guaranteeing them new accounts or at least reactivation of old ones, thereby upping their web traffic and their bottom line to their stockholders.

            This company is just now joining the S&P 500! This is about money. They don’t care if you use an account, they just want you to make one. Higher numbers equal higher profits.

            Huff underestimated out memories. They have been writing stories about declining numbers at FB. Also, FB was hacked a week ago and account passwords were posted online.

            So, why would huff, who has been widely critical of FB on their own news site, suddenly not ask you, but DEMAND that you have a FB account to comment?

            Money. A deal was made, just in time to guarantee higher account numbers for FB since they go live on the S&P 500 December 20th.

          • Lindstr7

            ?!? Wow, that’s some good reporting there Sharyn! Thanks for the info. I wondered about the stock market angle. Makes SO much more sense now. Knew it had to be about business but didn’t know that tidbit. Gracias!

          • Sharyn G.

            Thanks. It’s only my guess, but the pieces all seem to fit. I have a really good memory for reading and all I can think of is the many articles I’ve been commenting on in the last month on huff about FB that were negative! Then suddenly they’re in cahoots! Ugh. I think I may be spot on too, with my idea, because nearly every post is deleted that I have left there telling folks this. People there ask “why FB.” So I leave that message and poof, it’s moderated. It’s gotta be right to be deleted that often. I’m hoping to keep peppering their site with the link to this one. I will keep at it until I’m banned :)

          • http://plumstchili.blogspot.com/ Plum Dumpling

            Bingo.

        • Quick Brown Dog

          I wish there was a custom HP script for Disqus so that I could f/f you. Fanned and faved “in spirit.”

          • SharynTG

            Thanks !!! You did follow me so that’s the same. I tried to follow you as well, but your profile is marked as private. If you do want followers you have to go into the disqus dashboard and and your profile and uncheck the box that reads “keep my profile activity private.” :)

          • Quick Brown Dog

            Thanks for the tip, Sharyn. Should work now. :)

          • SharynTG

            Someone had to tell me, too! ;)

    • SharynTG

      Hey we can follow each other here too. If you click a person’s name you can press the plus button. Very cool.

    • GallopingGoat

      I have been in mourning all morning – this change caught me by surprise, and after five years of enjoying that website, I resigned my account. I looked at the comments counters on the front page – for stories generated today, they’re having trouble hitting 100. Good. Greed can be a …

    • EmpressL

      Talk about stepping all over the 1st Amendment!

    • UCBAlum

      I’m working on it. I’ve spent a lot of time there and made almost 20,000 comments, so I’m having to work up the nerve to cut the cord.

  • ChrisDC

    I deleted my account yesterday, too. Pretty much everybody who works in politics and government is doing the same thing — or at least will not be commenting. They may continue to read the site for a while, but that’s going to go away pretty soon, as well.

    The folks commenting here aren’t thinking about a particular group of people who have an interest in being able to post anonymously — Congressional staffers, political appointees in the Executive Branch, and political/policy/legal consultants. I’ve been the first two and currently am the third.

    Because of our jobs, we lose the right to talk freely about things because, when we speak using our own names, we’re (not unreasonably) presumed to be speaking on behalf of our bosses or agencies or clients.

    It is not so simple as any kind of whistleblower question. The people we work for have their own agendas, and the right to control those. If someone who’s known to be on their staff starts weighing in on something that’s not on their selected list of things to do, it immediately adds that thing to their list of things to do.

    HuffPo’s decision to ditch anonymous postings, if any of us were stupid enough to go along with it, would have the effect of turning us into the equivalent of a horde of rogue press secretaries.

    Let’s say that a Member of Congress I work with is totally focused on budget issues at the moment.

    Meanwhile, I’ve got a thought or two about same-sex marriage, I’ve got some institutional memory about a particular aspect of the internal workings of the House and Senate, or the history of a regulation or two at a Cabinet agency or two, or three, or four, or five.

    I can’t talk about any of that publicly using my own name, no matter how useful it might be to somebody, because to do that would mean that I’d derail the message strategy of that Member of Congress. It’s not that she or he would disagree with me — it’s that somebody would use my comments to force him or her to deal with that issue right now. Or, worse, simply report my position as being identical to his or hers.

    HuffPo had a huge number of commenters who are in politics and government at staff level who found it a useful forum to exchange and debate ideas with ourselves and get comments on the issues from the general public. And, more often than not, the latter aspect produced something really productive. The partisan divide at the elected and appointed official level in DC is so bad that Members of Congress and Executive Branch appointees don’t talk to each other across the aisle, anymore. It used to be that only the GOP “punished” their folks for talking to the other side, but there are now major figures on the Democratic side who are doing that, too.

    We used to be able to talk about stuff like that on HuffPo without dragging our bosses or agencies or clients into it. To put it in journalistic terms, it’s like being able to have a preliminary conversation that’s off-the-record, on-background, or not-for-attribution, rather than on the record. Oh well, it was useful while it lasted.

    Now, the site’s comments are going to be entirely in the hands of people parroting back whatever talking points they’re fed from whatever segment of the segregated media they pay attention to.

    Arianna was (rightfully) upset when a troll threatened a female commenter with rape.

    I thought it ironic, but not unexpectedly stupid, that Arianna’s reaction was to get the troll off her website by turning him into a lurker — and then giving him at least hints as to the real name of his intended victim. So he can show up at her house. Just like, if I were the target, he’d show up at boss’ office or the office of one or more of my clients.

    She hasn’t made a mistake this bad since she married a gay guy. And I am a gay guy — trust me, ladies, even if one of us asks, it’s a losing proposition.

    (See what I mean about the need for occasional anonymity? I think I’ll hang out here for a while and see how it works.)

    • ottlh

      I sent them an email relating to this exact issue and received a canned response. Nice to know what Huffington Post thinks of their commenters.

      • ChrisDC

        I did the same and got the same. And then I emailed Howard Fineman, and haven’t heard back.

        I don’t think they really care about their content. Just page views. It’s going to come back to bite them. Or at least it should.

        • LaFemmeNikitty

          I’ve stopped paging them. No clicky, no laundry.

          • ChrisDC

            Thanks — and I’m following you now, too. :-)

          • Quick Brown Dog

            Hey Chris, this is great — Disqus even lets us have MicroBios! :)

          • ChrisDC

            I sin so you don’t have to. I just checked. Basically, Gay Voices over there is totally dead. No comments on most of the articles. The only ones with comments are also cross-posted to Politics, or have been around for more than a week, so far as I can tell.

        • ottlh

          I’m thinking that they should put all of their advertising on their article regarding the changes (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-mcdonald/end-of-anonymity_b_4418630.html#closeOverlay). Seems like it’s far and away the most popular and commented story on their site.

          • ChrisDC

            I’ve read the comments. I guess it’s “popular” in the sense that Dr. Frankenstein’s castle was “popular” with the torch-wielding villagers. LOL! :-)

          • ottlh

            Great way to describe it!

          • EmpressL

            And you can add “The End” after that. I went back and read the commenters left. They sound like they all have had a lobotomy.

    • Nokilissa

      Spot on. And I’d take it further to other professions as well. I’m a psychotherapist in Manhattan. No way can I have myself and my views so openly available. I’m now out too. And very disappointed.

      • ChrisDC

        Sorry — I’d forgotten the physician angle. You’re right. It’s the same concern.

    • Cindy Drukier

      I’d like to say as well that you’re all very welcome here. I don’t know how much you know about us yet but our roots are in ensuring the flow of free uncensored information and we’re very clear on the need for privacy. In fact, our reporting has played an important role in the creation of a resolution that was passed to the Foreign Affairs Committee for markup on Wed.
      http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/137062-us-house-resolution-calls-for-ending-organ-pillaging-in-china/

      Our lead China reporter, Matthew Robertson, won a Sigma Delta Chi award from the SPJ earlier this year for his reporting on the issue.
      http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/122833-epoch-times-reporter-honored-for-reporting-on-organ-harvesting/

      Welcome again!

      • ChrisDC

        Thanks! I saw the news about H.Res. 281. Congratulations on your role on that!

        Some might dismiss it as a House Resolution that won’t reach the Senate or the President, so it won’t have the force of law — but the government in the PRC is perennially incapable of understanding that. They either can’t conceive of, or don’t want to think about, what decentralized government looks like. Which means that this single-chamber expression of concern carries more weight with the PRC than it would with other countries. They see it as a backdoor signal from the Obama Administration. (Although how they could escape understanding that the Obama Administration does not control the House, personally, escapes me.)

        • Cindy Drukier

          Thanks, ChrisDC. That’s a great point. I personally think the Chinese regime is incapable of understanding how “normal” gov’ts operate. Like at the Beijing Olympics when they were caught out changing the birth certificates of underage gymnasts, they seemed totally dumbfounded that this was problematic. “Huh, what? What’s everybody getting so excited about? We’re the Party. What’s the problem with doing that?”

          • ChrisDC

            There’s also a fear of what they view as chaos, which in some cases means they don’t think it actually exists. It’s not just the PRC. When I was in college in the early 80′s, one of my professors had served with our State Department on our embassy staff in Moscow. He said he was shocked to find out many Soviet government officials were totally convinced that the U.S. economy was centrally-planned — it’s just that we were better at it, and kept it secret. LOL.

  • LaFemmeNikitty

    HuffPo has become nothing more than a tabloid. Yesterday, comments were so few, they had to put up 3 lesbian articles on the front page to try to attract comments. I’m offended because of the obvious pandering going on there. Don’t get me wrong, I like lesbians :) A lot :) When I tried to make a comment on one of the articles, that was when I realized they were requiring me to connect HP to a “verified” FaceBook account. I don’t have one. I thought I would go ahead and make one, just to file at least one comment in protest, but when the process included giving FB my phone number, I jammed on the brakes. Talk about data mining expeditions! HP is way over the top on this one. I lost over 50 friends since I last looked. I’m going to leave my account sitting dormant. Why should I do the heavy lifting. If they want me gone they will have to scrub out my cage without my help.

    • ChrisDC

      What’s the equivalent of fanning here?

      Could you do me a favor? I deleted my HuffPo account yesterday and then kind of regretted it because I then got curious about how many of my “fans” and “friends” and “followers” were disappearing. (They never did explain the distinction between the three.) I’d be interested to see how many of yours disappear, and how fast.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        I clicked on your screen name, which brought up a box where there is a “follow” button. So now I’m stalking you :) Er, “following”.

        NM I figured it out … let me take a peek and I’ll let you know in a minute.

        • ChrisDC

          Oh, cool. I’ll follow you, too. :-) I was just wondering if you could keep us posted on how many of your fans over there ditch the site, too.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Currently down 53.

            Hmm I will have to look into the privacy, I just always select maximum privacy settings before I know what I’m into :)

          • SmotPoker

            I’m down from roughly 2045 on 12-09-13 to around 1946. Ouch

            Total Comments: 13263

            Comments to News: 12751

            Comments to Blogs: 512

            Network

            Friends: 1929

            Fans: 1946

            Following: 136

          • SharynTG

            I lost 200 :(

            Sad so many good people left. Good thing we joined them.

          • imusintheevening

            Smot, just for grins check the exodus from my account for me next time you go there. I’ve sworn to myself to never click on them again. I was at about 6,950 on the 10th.

          • SmotPoker

            I can’t even find you on HP. In fact, I can’t find anyone. Type in the user name in the search used to bring up the user, that is no longer the case. I can’t log in as I dumped my account. It may be disabled for non members I truly do not know. If you have a link for one of your post I might be able to view your profile from that, otherwise I don’t know. I tried hunting down Coinyer101 as well and the results came back with nada…

          • imusintheevening

            interesting, thanks for lurking around about it

            I am gonna let it go and enjoy learning the new spots for us here, PPOV, Disqus, etc.

          • SmotPoker

            UPDATE!!!

            I found you by going to Blueeyedbulls account and checking the fan base. Here is your data from your stats:

            Total Comments: 72551

            Comments to News: 72003

            Comments to Blogs: 548

            Network

            Friends: 6585

            Fans: 6603

            Following: 4030

          • imusintheevening

            so, down by about 350 since Tuesday. Let it bleed…………..

          • Nokilissa

            Well you just picked up one Huffpugee in me!

          • msanonymous222

            He gave his real name as Jade P. (not his real name, of course, which he let them know, of course), but I just found one of his ‘newer’ posts now, and it’s showing that his profile has been removed.

          • Rick Urban

            Hey, Smot!! I know you found imus over on HP but here’s an easy way to search for anyone over there:

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ ?action=profile ,

            Now all you have to do is insert their moniker before the “?” – no blank spaces. If their moniker is separate words like mine you separate each word with an underline – _ and that’s it!! :D

          • Quick Brown Dog

            SmotPoker, are you Coinyer101? King of Doobiestan?

        • ChrisDC

          I just clicked on your name, and it says “This User’s Activity is Private.”

          Which is perhaps appropriate given the current conversation. :-)

          LOL.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Okay I just changed the privacy to … not sure … totally nekkid?

          • SharynTG

            I fixed it. I had it set to private :(

            I must have had Huffpoop on the brain. Oh, I mean Huffpo. No, I don’t.

        • Nokilissa

          Aww, maybe I’ll just start over here too.

          I was feeling truly angry, sad and disappointed at what had happened at Huffpo, and about losing my commenting “friends” each of whom I enjoyed and appreciated. I’d guess I fanned you there, but I won’t be back to check, so I “followed” you here :)

          • dvncmdy

            We will all find each other……:)

          • SharynTG

            I see you and follow you again here!

          • dvncmdy

            I can’t follow you back…..it won’t allow me to, it’s says’ you’re “private” which is cool if that’s how have it set up.

          • SharynTG

            I fixed it. Whoops. Please try again – ;)

          • dvncmdy

            Yeah! it worked…….

          • SharynTG

            And, we are back in action! Let the exodus begin.

        • SmotPoker

          Ditto, I know we’ve “met” before….

        • SharynTG

          I’m following you Kitty, I was your huffpo fan -

        • Jennifer Malcom

          Hi, Kitty! I think we were followers on HP! :)

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            I think I’m getting the hang of this disqus thing, I can now find replies to posts and answer almost effortlessly. Did you use your full name at HP or a nickname? If I wasn’t following you on HP, I am now :)

      • Marion Ambler

        Even when you delete your account you can reopen it and delete it again if you want. When you delete your account they send an email to whatever email address you gave them and there will be links there to reopen your account. You can delete and reopen forever.

        • imusintheevening

          oh, really?

          I thought it was permanent. So, I should delete it in protest and not leave it as a memorial as I can always resurrect it as a shrine!

          • geesepeace

            I have deleted my account a few times and reopened it. They always send me an email that says this:

            Hey………..

            You have successfully closed your account with The Huffington Post. We’ll miss you!

            If you want to sign up again later, you may do so here.

            You can also reopen this account by following this link

            You will no longer receive social notifications from The Huffington Post. You may reopen your account at any time.

            Thanks,

            The Huffington Post

            I also realized every time I closed my account my name stayed up there as if I was still there…..I finally realized to get that to disappear I had to tell them to unlink me from yahoo and then delete my account.

      • dvncmdy

        I found you! Glad you hooked me up with his place!

      • SharynTG

        If you click on the person’s name you can then “follow” them :)

        I just followed you. You see it? You just click the “+” logo on the right.

        • ChrisDC

          I did see. Thanks!

          But your Disqus profile is marked “private.” Given the context of the current conversation, I wouldn’t want to ask you to change it, but if you do, I’ll be following you right back. :-)

          • SharynTG

            Whoops! I better fix that! Thanks!!! Check back later please ;)

    • Marion Ambler

      And if you look at the comments on major city’s news it pretty funny. It looks like nobody in NYC or San Francisco is commenting at all. Zero comments on their headlining news.

      • EmpressL

        Yep! 1/2 of their articles have “0″ comments.

    • SharynTG

      I know you from huff! I was your fan! Hello.

    • ChesapeakePirate

      LaFemme, I always liked your stuff on HP. I guess we’re all just exiles and refugees now.

  • LaFemmeNikitty

    I’ve never used this disquis thing. Interesting that they have a dashboard where I can read all of the comments I’ve made, without having to click through endless extraneous pages. And I didn’t have to give my phone number or become an FB member. Huh. Maybe somebody should tell HP there’s an easier way?

    • ChrisDC

      Since your account is still active, maybe you could suggest this as a site for HuffPo refugees. If you keep it short and stupid (the latter of which I am quite sure is not at all in character for you) it’ll probably sail past their moderators.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        My account is active but I can’t post. Because I won’t give them my phone number and FB told me Lafemme Nikitty didn’t sound like a real name. HAHAHA.

        • ChrisDC

          Really? I like it, and so does my cat. I’m not sure who you were over there, but I was LoganDC1. (Logan Circle was the neighborhood I lived in.)

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Well that explains why you ‘feel’ familiar. Didn’t recognize you without your equality avatar :) We are friends at HP. And now here, too. Wheeeee okay let’s break out the caviar and champagne!

          • ChrisDC

            Do you mind if I ask who you were over there? It’s got to be kismet that we keep running into each other like this!

            I’ll spring for the caviar. :-)

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Same nickname and avatar.

            Guess this means I have to buy the bubbly … hope you don’t mind that cheap pink crap with the gold foil wrapping :)

          • ChrisDC

            Hey, I’d share it with you even if it had a screw cap.

            I hope I can find ChristianLady1, Atwill and Kofender (among others). But I think they’ve left, too, although, like me, they still show up as being there. (I hate generating page views for those creeps, but I’m curious — just so you don’t have to check unless you want to, it looks pretty dead over there.)

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            I’m hoping the Arias trial crew will show up, I sent email to the forum founder even if the site is disbanded she has everyone’s email address from the signups. I would love to see HP tank over this.

        • Nokilissa

          I thought you looked familiar, went back to check, but it was “Peacekitten” I’d befriended, not LaFemmeNikitty :)
          How do I get to my Disqus dashboard?

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            All us kitties look the same. I think mine’s the only one being held at gunpoint … though I was shocked one day to discover someone had stolen my avatar.

            I get to disquis by opening up a separate browser and typing “disquis” in it. Call me lazy!

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        If I can find it… Last summer I joined a forum for followers of the Jodi Arias trial who became disgusted by the moderation at HP. I saw several of them yesterday posting comments at HP after getting their NSA approved clearance. I’ll try to find the forum link and leave a message telling them to come here.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Hey your name is still in my “friends” list. Did you totally de-activate? That makes me wonder how many have really dropped off. Or could it be that HP is not making the deletions complete? To fluff the numbers up?

        • ChrisDC

          I noticed that a lot of my friends are still technically on the site, but I can only find one who’s posted anything in the last couple of days. (AllenMcW). And I still show up on his list of friends despite the fact that I did totally deactivate my account.

          I got an email from them telling me that I could reactivate my screen name by clicking “here.”

          I clicked “here” and got a message saying that that email was not good for reactivation.

          I think they’re ticked at me. It could be that email I sent to Howard. LOL.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            It sounds like they are putting deleted profiles into a time warp. So that they can be more delusional about how many people have actually quit the site in the past 48 hours.

          • Vega

            maybe HP was trolling for more of your data. lol

          • ChrisDC

            Surely not?! (snark)

        • Jrlh

          I cancelled my account, over 36 hours ago, and it still shows I am there. I think they are hoping people will change their minds.

        • Vega

          is vega509 still there? I deactivated my account this morning, as many more obviously did, I had over 8400 friends on Monday, and as of this morning only 5033 remained. When I went back this evening I could log back in, but everything is gone from my profile. Most of the people I became very familiar with have also vanished.

          All this did was hasten what I was going to do anyway. I detested the new conversation format, and abhorred the moderation abyss some posts would enter into, and was not too actively looking for a new home.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            vega509 appears to be completely deleted. LoganDC1 is still active.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/logandc1

            Just to give an example, that is how you can look at any profile, just substitute the nickname after the last slash (“/”) mark.

  • Peter Doll

    Just deactivated my HP account. I debated setting up a fake FB profile, which people will do, but it’s not worth my time.

  • LaFemmeNikitty

    As much as I’d love to sit and see EVERYONE from HP show up over here, I have to get my face ready for work. Glad to see a few expatriates here, and y’all have a good day :)

  • LiberalUnderYourBed

    I was a HuffPo user since the days when it was an email newsletter.

    I cancelled my account yesterday.

    First the krappy new comment format… then this FB jive!

    I’m voting with my feet.

  • Flashlight Battery

    HuffPo azzwholes. Pizzonem.

  • Sabran

    Anonymity is one of the few ways we can maintain privacy on a website. If people wanted everyone to know who they are, they would just post their views on FB.

  • Ranine Hopper

    Interesting. I’ve just attempted to “remove” my HP account and got no verification that it was removed. It still seems to be live. I was a member for over 4 years (and a community moderator). Of all the offensive things HP has been stooping to since its merger with aol, this is the lowest. They lied to us about being “grandfathered-in” and now want to force us to divulge our phone numbers through FaceBook! There are plenty of intelligent people who make interesting, thoughtful comments who refuse to have FaceBook accounts. What does HP think it will gain by this? Data? Was it really worth it? Its credibility and status are plummeting. I haven’t heard Ariana address this situation yet. That should be interesting.

    PS: I’m happy that I was “forced” to seek other commentary such as this one. A refreshing change from the old HP rut.

    • Leslie

      I tried several times and didn’t seem to get any response, but I got three emails saying my account had been deactivated. However, they also said I wouldn’t be getting any more emails from them, and I got one today. :(

      • Ranine Hopper

        Well, I just tried to log in and did get the message that my account had been deactivated. Have yet to get an email. I hope this means they are suffering. (If I sound bitter, it’s because I am. I feel betrayed.)

        • ChrisDC

          If one of your friends or fans are still on the site, take a look at their friends or fans list, and you’ll find that you’re still on it.

          They’re obviously trying to hide how many of us have left. I can find only one friend over there who’s posted anything in the last two days. I hope some of our fellow refugees will find us over here.

          I was LoganDC1 over on HuffPo. I’m not sure if we ran into each other in our old stomping grounds.

          • Ranine Hopper

            Hi,
            I had about 1800 fans. I’m afraid I really didn’t pay much attention to their screen names.
            It is still disturbing to me that Huffington Post has essentially become a subsidiary of Facebook and the media has barely reported it.

          • ChrisDC

            I just an email to Lawrence O’Donnell. Let’s see if he can do something to report on it.

    • ChrisDC

      The thing that really frosted me, and caused me to terminate my account was that they caught us by surprise. There was no way to comment on what they did without caving in to the garbage about linking to my Facebook page. So, they shut us up over there quite handily, didn’t they? I don’t like being tricked.

      • Ranine Hopper

        Yes!!
        Apparently they only want numbed-down commenters. Ones who respond positively to banality.
        But, really, whose idea was it to pull that little surprise? And what was the rationale? I am truly curious. Think I’ll head over to some sites that specifically cover business and media and ask around.

        • ChrisDC

          The only thing I can figure is that Arianna was very upset (and rightfully so) when a troll over there threatened another poster with rape. So, as she explained it, things would be more civilized if people had to use their real names.

          I get it, but the consequences are irrational. She’s just turned the trolls into lurkers — who can’t be seen — while handing the bad guys clues about how to show up at their targets’ offices. Or homes.

          • Marion Ambler

            That is ridiculous reasoning….now someone might not threaten rape but having real names would be able to find the person and do it. And then of course lots of people have fake names and profiles on FB too.

      • Nokilissa

        Exactly! How I ended up here, too. Googled it. Might as well have typed “Huffpo, WTF?”

      • msanonymous222

        That was SO cowardly. To tell us we were going to be grandfathered in, and THEN spring this on us months later so that we were trapped into doing what they wanted (or else)? Cowards.

    • Marion Ambler

      It bothered me they want access to my friends names as well as newsfeed….that pretty well means they know everything you are doing on FB. Why would I want to give some media giant access to everything I am saying and posting on as well as what my friends are saying and posting on? This is insane.

    • Lindstr7

      I logged out after cancelling. No confirmation but that seemed to do the trick. I’m sure they’ll retain the rights to any comments we’ve posted over the years.

  • JustaSlob

    2 Cents from a slob…..
    I will never make a Facebook account (Fake or real) just to be able to post on a site that has clearly lost it’s way.

    There are some great people on HP that I will seriously miss reading…. Coinyer, Bastile and that FunkSands weirdo immediately to mind (Coughing…..it’s cool though…Funk is on Twitter)…I was on HP for a little over 2 years I believe… & enjoyed it very much until about the time AOL got involved. Their “New format” totally sucked & obviously HP didn’t give a shit because the feedback had to be 95% against and they just didn’t care…
    I checked the comment numbers earlier & they were absolutely pathetic, maybe they’ll change it back (I ain’t holding my fukking breath)
    Anyhow…I’ll see you good people around.

    Jeff.

    • LiberalUnderYourBed

      Yeah, I’ll miss Coinyer too. Hope he’s lighting up a fat one and can somehow find his way over here!

      • JustaSlob

        I don’t think “Hope” is needed there my friend….heh.

        • bastalready

          Well, hello, big boy.

          • JustaSlob

            Hey you…. I posted to ya on PlanetPov.

          • bastalready

            I have,’t been there since.Will hafta check it out again.Still trying to get the hang of this place.

          • JustaSlob

            Me too….. I’m all over the place right now : )

          • bastalready

            I am, too, I feel like a dork. ; )

      • bastalready

        He was last seen at All-en-all.

    • FunkSands

      Mentioning my name will only get you the horns.

    • bastalready

      Hope so!

  • geezer 56

    Be still, my heart: I just read a bunch of comments and noticed, on the lower right side, that Epoch Times (unlike HP) has thoughtfully provided a “Back to Top” button! And I didn’t even have to provide a cell phone number, recent brain scan, or DNA sample. I could get used to this…

    • JustaSlob

      Odd…. They didn’t ask for my mother’s maiden name or my 1st born….

    • Vega

      no urine sample either

  • Stephane

    I was reading the HP when it started, it was looking promising, but then there was never a story on 911 and there would never be any. So I understood the HP was in bed with the deep state. And I left. To go fishing :-)

  • christinedenice

    I’m not going to associate my FB account with my HP identity, mostly because I have no interest in offending or alienating FB friends and family whose views on politics, guns, etc. could not be more divergent from mine.

    I will miss posting on Huffpo and am kind of grieving that loss.

    So happy to have found The Epoch Times. Perhaps many former HP posters will find a new community here.

    • Jrlh

      Just keep in mind it was not us but, Huffpo….Linking the accounts and the cell phone # think was just too much to ask in my mind.
      At the moment it feels like over four years wasted, to me….

  • http://twitter.com/#!/jamesi3m Jamesi3m

    You would of thought they would have learned from the Google+ real name debacle….

    What really annoys me is that I already used my real name with links on HuffPo.

  • SmotPoker

    Greetings Earthlings, this is SmotPoker from Huffington Post. I’m not “famous” like TheRewd, although I did have a couple thousand fans on the site…..

    In my dismay over the actions of HP I found myself wandering lost among the vast wilderness that is the internet. Doomed to a life of despair, with no lively conversation to shorten my days. No debates on the relative idiocy of some comments that found their way to my screen. It was a dark, and strange time. The future was bleak.

    Then I saw it, a beacon in blue….”The Epoch Times” What’s that I said? A search had found an article on the source of my despair! I ran forward, unable to stop fueled by visions of mass unrest over the unprecedented move by the money grubbing overlords that runs The Huffington Post. For I had lurked at the camp of my enemies. I have seen the place transform into a Ghost Town virtually overnight. I had seen articles that normally would generate comments in the 10′s of thousands, draw less than 1500 at best, under 100 on many articles. I had read the comments on the hottest article on the site the last two days (which coincidentally has been removed from the front page http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-mcdonald/end-of-anonymity_b_4418630.html). I had seen the glib, authoritarian, replies from Tim McDonald henceforth known as the fool that implemented a policy that resulted in a first…AN INTERNET SITE SUICIDE.

    I needed to see if others saw what I had seen. I NEEDED to know that I wasn’t alone in this wilderness. Sometimes in life you DO get what you need! I’m not alone! Others have seen the destruction brought on by greed, and hubris. There are others that see the truth. Perhaps there IS hope for us after all.

    I see the ghosts of HP users writing comments here, and I KNOW I am home.

    I will not succumb to this aggressive, greedy, unethical, money grabbing, data mining of my internet activities. I will NOT post at HP. I will not take a peek to see what is in the headlines. I will not be a source of clicking for dollars for them any longer. I’m not so naive as to believe that little old me is of any great importance to their success or failure, but I am smart enough to see that I’m not alone. I can see that by boycotting the site we can substantially impact their bottom line. If you love your freedom, and respect your privacy, stand with me by respecting the freedom of others and the privacy of others. To hell with The Huffington Post. Hello Epoch Times.

    SmotPoker

    P.S. I promise that in the future my comments should not be anywhere near that dramatic, but I do strive for humor….

    • Cynth

      F&F. OK, old habits die hard…Followed. ;-)

    • Nokilissa

      Oh MAN, I’m liking you :)

      • SmotPoker

        Awww, shucks….I’m just a poor college educated country boy trying find my way in the dark and foreboding wilderness…Thanks

  • David Goldstein

    Ha!…I have written 11 articles for Huffington Post (mostly on climate change related matters) and they are also losing me as a ‘customer’. Pity, not only have I enjoyed writing the articles, I have also enjoyed using HP as a commenter around many diiferent issues. I wonder if the backlash will be sufficient for them to re-think things…I suppose it will all come down to how it impacts their ‘bottom line’.

    • SmotPoker

      Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner! It is nothing more than a data mining, money grab in partnership with FB. Even Stevie Wonder can see this…

    • ottlh

      Hopefully people like you will have more pull than we’ve had.

    • Vega

      the bottom line is all they will listen to, everything and everyone else is just a means to the bottom line. I”m sure HP knew there would be a backlash, but calculated there would be more to be gained from their new data mining partnership.

  • SmotPoker

    Man, I made a really great post but it didn’t get posted because I had not verified my registration….bummer.EDIT: Nevermind, it did get posted. I think I’m in love….and an edit function? No doubt about it, I AM in love….

    Hello all, this is SmotPoker from HP. Yep, I’m done there, won’t be back unless change. This is nothing more than a data mining money grab. Nothing more.

    • geezer 56

      SmotPoker, if you still have any doubts, look at the bottom right of your screen. It’s a “Back to Top” button!!! I almost fainted. No more interminable scrolling back!

    • SharynTG

      I remember you! Glad you escaped safely. I was sharyn350z there & am now what I call a Huffpugee.

  • JR

    If there was a “community” there, it was between commenters. Not between commenters and HP authors or HP staff. Which was totally fine by me, no problem with that.
    But it is annoying when now they pretend that they are also part of the community and only care about discourse in that community. Yeah, right.

  • SmotPoker

    OK fellas, now that you got me here I must look around….

  • Ben_Chasteen

    Hello everyone, I am one of the moderators for Epoch Times. Due to the increased comments we have received recently, we were a bit behind at moderating them. We are currently working on changing our moderation so comments appear faster.

    We want to thank you all for your kinds words, support and patience. We will NOT be changing our commenting policy so no need to worry, if anything making it better for you.

    We know many of you are starting over, so we hope that you will find a great community with us at Epoch Times. We will be working on making your transition smooth and hassle free.

    Once again, we want to welcome all of you and we hope you will enjoy your stay.

    • Jrlh

      Well, now that is something I had never seen over at HP…..! …This place might be it! I’m going to look around……An actual greeting, and an information…Cool!

    • ottlh

      “We will NOT be changing our commenting policy”

      Thank you!!!!

      • SharynTG

        Bet they won’t sell us out to FaceBRAG, either! I’m staying here.

        • Ben_Chasteen

          I can guarantee that we won’t be. Already had a meeting about it with our Chief editor, he said he doesn’t even want his account connected either. So I can promise we won’t.

          • SharynTG

            Thank you Ben! Glad you are not shepherds. Huff has made sheep out of people by forcing them to sign with FaceBRAG.

            Myself, I declare myself a Huffpugee and seek asylum here. I have made it through the Huffpo/FB Exodus unscathed.

          • ChrisDC

            Thanks for already being here as a safe place for us to land. :-)

    • ChrisDC

      It’s already working, and we’re trying to spread the word as best we can that you’re here. Apologies for the increased workload.

      I want to thank you for being one of the few sites that even noticed what was going on over at Huffington Post.

      Many of our accounts over there, although deactivated, are still showing up on some of their lists as active. They probably don’t want people to know how many of us have left. I had over 800 “friends” and “fans” over there, and I can find only one of them who’s posted anything in the last two days.

      I hope you don’t mind that some of are hoping to use your site to reconnect with people we really don’t want to lose touch with.

      They sprung this change on us without warning, and the only way to say anything about it on their site was to cave in to this Facebook connection business — so without doing that, there was no way for us to let our friends know where they could find us.

      Just so you know who a lot of us are, HuffPo is losing a whole group of political professionals. Congressional staffers, agency officials, political appointees, lawyers, and consultants — basically, anybody who works for a boss, an agency, or a client where, if we speak publicly in our own names, we’re presumed to be speaking for them. In my case, I couldn’t stay over there without ruining my career. And I’m not alone.

      I hope you’ll find that we add something here, and thanks again for welcoming us in.

      • Cynth

        Well said and heartily co-signed!

      • Ben_Chasteen

        Hi ChrisDC, thanks again for your kind words. That is really amazing though about your background and other. We are very happy to have all hear. Please feel free to use the commenting system however you like, as long as you don’t threaten anyone you are pretty much fine :)

        Because we are an independent media, our readers are the most important to us, and it also means that we are not as restricted as other media. We don’t have a board making decisions for our staff and readers, we openly discus and think about what is best for everyone.

        • Rick Urban

          Great news! Thank you, Ben! I’ve been telling everyone about Epoch Times and the general consensus is that it’s great!

      • Rick Urban

        Hear, hear, Chris!

    • SmotPoker

      Where is the fridge?

      • imusintheevening

        Ha ha!

    • geezer 56

      Thank YOU! I feel like a refugee in mourning, and I appreciate your efforts. Finding this nice spot and the company of fellow refugees has brought me some much-needed comfort.

      • SharynTG

        You’re a Huffpugee. That’s what I’m calling us. We survived the Huffpo/FB Exodus.

        We refused to be sheep and take the command to be beholden to FaceBRAG.

      • EmpressL

        Did you attempt to use another name and “Fill out the form”? They ask you why you don’t want to use your own name. I told them I didn’t want to lose my job because of my political views and yet most of the people left posting aren’t using their whole names either. So it all comes down to weather or not they liked your posts.

        • geezer 56

          I went as far as creating a fake Facebook account–there’s no WAY I’d use my real account and give HP my friends list, birthdate, etc., plus God knows what else could happen. But then I decided I’d wait to see if HP comes to their senses and use the time to look around at other sites. Also, a month or two ago a friend of mine suddenly started getting all her Facebook notifications via text on her phone–still don’t know what glitch caused that–so the idea of giving Facebook my cell phone number gave me the creeps.

          • EmpressL

            How do you create a new FB account? Don’t they ask for your e mail address?

          • geezer 56

            Yeah, I just used a junk e-mail address that I wasn’t using for anything else in particular. Still, HP wanted me to verify it with my cell phone number, & I balked at that. I forgot to mention that I did consider applying for an anonymous account, and then I figured that not only was it probably pointless but also it’s really none of HP’s GD business why I’d want to remain anonymous!

        • msanonymous222

          I never even got a response when I filled out the form–and that was back on Dec. 10. I gave them 10,000 posts and they can’t give me one measly reply? Pfffffft.

      • John Doe

        But but but if you do not go to the Arianna Tabloid today you cannot see their latest “Miley Cyrus says “Free the Nipple”” journalism news article.
        ps I did not make that up. It is a real AOLHPFB article.

        • geezer 56

          How about “Why Girl-on-Girl Action Is on the Rise” and “What Your Favorite Cheese Says About You.” Madness!

        • Nokilissa

          You just made me spray coffee. Great. ;)

    • Cynth

      Thank you, Ben. Your welcome is refreshing and I appreciate your reaching out to us.

      • Ben_Chasteen

        We want you to feel at home, so we will do what we can to make that happen. Already changing a few things to make comments go up faster.

        • msanonymous222

          Thanks, Ben. My comments are almost instantaneous. I appreciate it, as does my grandfather. (I think I’m going to run with ‘my grandfather and I’ things for a while.)

    • SharynTG

      Personally, I am liking you so much better then huffpo. Thanks for your efforts.

    • Lindstr7

      Should we buckle up for safety? Where are the emergency exits? (What I mean to say is Thank You.)

    • dvncmdy

      Thank you!

    • EmpressL

      I think I’m going to connect my account to FB and advertise this site.

      • bastalready

        funny

        • EmpressL

          I’m going to cause as much trouble as I can. It’s good to laugh! Thanks!

          • bastalready

            ; )

  • ChrisDC

    For all my fellow refugees from HuffPo, could I suggest that we give our HuffPo user names?

    Just in case we were friends or fans over there. There are some people I really don’t want to lose track of, and most of them have left, too, from what I can tell.

    Their accounts are still listed on “friends” and “fans” lists as active. So is mine, even though it’s not. I suspect HuffPo doesn’t want word to get out about how many of us have left.

    I was LoganDC1 over there.

    • SmotPoker

      I guess, I was lucky as I was able to transfer my name with no change. Things are looking up…

      • ChrisDC

        Thanks! I already had a Disqus account so I just kept it. :-)

      • christinedenice

        Me, too.

    • Cynth

      Yes, good suggestion. And for those who are new to DISQUS, you can follow users by clicking on their names to open a window, then clicking on the “follow” button in the upper right (provided they don’t set their activity private).

      You can also upload your avatar in your profile under “Edit Settings” option in the menu under your name in the upper right of the discussion section.

    • Lindstr7

      already done.

  • SmotPoker

    Someone bring me Coinyer101 over here ASAP!

    • ottlh

      I did see him commenting on the Tim McDonald article a few hours ago.

      • SmotPoker

        As did I. I was kind of disappointed to see that he had succumbed, but it appears that it won’t be for too long. Who knows? That’s his business if he chooses to stay. I refuse.

      • Jrlh

        Opps…

    • Jrlh

      I believe (pretty sure) someone commented over there this-morning they had not seen Coinyer101….They were wondering where they had gone.

  • SmotPoker

    So it begins…https://www.quantcast.com/huffingtonpost.com that’s a traffic report for HP, notice the drop off after 12/9/13 in the numbers? I predict that is only going to get steeper and deeper.

  • SmotPoker

    We need someone that is still participating @ HP to go post a little notice stating where so many of us have ended up. #Recruit

    • christinedenice

      I read some comments on HP’s Tim McDonald article indicating that others have tried, but their posts mentioning other sites aren’t making it through moderation.

      • SmotPoker

        Gee, imagine that eh? Tools.

    • ChrisDC

      I agree. But what are the odds of it getting past the modbots?

      I actually toyed with the idea of reactivating my account over there. Guess what? The link they sent me to reopen my account gives me an “Invalid Email to Reopen” message. I think they don’t like us anymore.

      • SmotPoker

        Odds? I’m guessing slim to none, depending on how clever you can be. I suggest spelling out the dot com or even posting it upside down (typeupsidedown.com).

        Oh yeah? It’s all good, I’m not too fond of them either. Hate them right back I say…

  • Jrlh

    Ok, I am new to Disque…..The username you log in with…..Just cut and paste it some where? Or is it changeable later? Looks hard to remember….

    • Jrlh

      Disqus…even.

    • Cynth

      I haven’t had much luck changing the login username after many attempts (all names seems taken…even random characters), so I just save it in a file & paste it. I’ve also logged in with my email as my username. Maybe someone else has a better idea….

  • The Pope

    Why do any comments need to be moderated? Ever look at “The Hill?” Almost everything goes there.

  • SmotPoker

    OK fellas, ET has another story up regarding He Who Shall Not Be Named response to the critical backlash over this idiotic move. Head up on out and over: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/396442-huffington-post-comments-huffpost-exec-dismisses-widespread-criticism-of-new-system/

  • SmotPoker

    I’ve got over 13k comments over there, where should I put them here? You got a closet somewhere I can use?

  • Talia Smith

    One more refugee from Huffpost. (Panalopy)I will not be handing out my phone number to Facebook, they can’t even keep their founders family info private! I would love to see how few people are commenting, but I don’t want to give them more clicks.

    • SmotPoker

      If you have ever seen someone that was shot in the foot walk, it’s a lot like that, just limping along. If you look close you can see the tumbleweeds rolling across the screen. Pitiful really.

  • somepeoplelikeit

    I’ve posted over 1000 comments on Huffpo and was an active member. There is plenty to not like about the site, but I enjoyed the wide range of articles but MOST OF ALL THE COMMENTS. Over the years I’ve built up friends and enjoyed seeing their take on a wide range of issues. This has been taken away and the reason they give us is a lie.
    If it was about civility, why Facebook? FB is a cesspool of incivility that I refuse to wade into. It’s about revenue. It would be different if they said that up front, then we could deal with it. But to blame incivility, which is basically blaming the community, is pathetic.
    It’s about revenue and data. Why do they think we’re stupid? And why did you lie about us being grandfathered in? And you want us to trust you with our data and phone number and friends list, Huffpo?
    I hope many leave like I will, and I hope it has an impact.
    Thanks for taking away our community…hope you get a big bonus Ariana.

  • Marion Ambler

    First of all, if you do not have a mobile phone which some of us don’t and won’t, you can’t verify your FB account. And this is the info HP will get in linking to our FB accounts:

    “The Huffington Post will receive the following info: your public profile, friend list, email address, News Feed, birthday, interests, current city, personal description and likes.”

    So….. my friends list and my newsfeed is none of HPs business….my newfeed is anything I post or comment on including my photos and everything my friends post that appears on my newsfeed. RU Fking kidding me HP??

  • SmotPoker

    For the record I would like to thank TET for their fine welcome to us poor refugees seeking truth, and justice. I would like to acknowledge my appreciation for the site allowing us to throw a few links to different site other HP refugees may be found. That’s a class act, rather than telling people to refrain from posting links to other sites that might diminish your own traffic. Well done. well done indeed. First rate.

    • epazote

      Hi to all fellow huff-poo refugees
      My most recent incarnation there was “epazote”, prior to that “Nopales” and “looneydoone”
      Happy to see so many friends here…and a big thank you to epochtimes for welcoming us

      • fumes

        Bravo Epoch Times!

  • SharynTG

    Shame on them to lie to us. They want us to create a new FB account simply to inflate FB’s failing stock prices. New accounts and re-activations only help FB. And I’m sure huff is getting data mining and major bucks out if it all.

    No way in heck does HP having access to what I like, where I live, and what I post do anything to stop trolling. They lie. There was an article on huffpo three weeks ago about how FB was losing accounts. So much so that they’d lowered their age requirement to only 13. Remember? And all the articles about bad FB security and password breaches? And they want us to TRUST FB? Ha ha ha ha.

    Ill find a new home here. Ex-huff peeps, just use your old avatar and your huff name and we can wave to each other. I was Sharyn350z there (but I sold the car). I miss my huffpo pals, but we may end up seeing one another.

    Peace.

  • SharynTG

    Look at how efficient the commenting here is!

    I have a new home.

    • Denni A

      I’m actually beside myself, I post a comment and it shows immediately.
      who could imagine, it’s almost sad and funny at the same time.

      • SharynTG

        I nearly peed myself in happiness. :)

    • fumes

      and how sweet it is!

      arianna who?

      • SharynTG

        Yeah Fumes!

  • Lindstr7

    Epochal times. True that. It does have a David v. Goliath feel to it. Those who feel a need to stand up to corporate bullying looking for a place to gather. lol. Bedraggled and principled and no where to go and be heard. Thanks for taking us in!

  • SmotPoker

    Arianna is sparing no expense scrubbing this from the internet. Go ahead, try to find news about it now from different sources. Bing, and Google play stupid and bring up old HP stories.

  • http://www.theepochtimes.com/ Seth Holehouse

    Hello everyone,

    It is great to see the activity here. Along with Ben Chasteen, I want to welcome you. I am the Creative Director of Epoch Times, and oversaw the redesign of this site a few months back. If any of you have any design or usability issues, or suggestions, feel free to email me at seth.holehouse(at)epochtimes.com. We are constantly striving to improve our site and content, and what helps us most is feedback from you all, the readers. Welcome, and thank you!

    -Seth Holehouse

    • geezer 56

      Somebody pinch me, because I MUST be dreaming… Seth, are you sure you don’t want to berate us just a little, or randomly vaporize our carefully worded comments, just to make us feel at “home”? ;)

      • http://www.theepochtimes.com/ Seth Holehouse

        Well, we are just finishing our finger print scanning tech which we will require, in addition to all of your bank details and SS number. If you thought big brother was big … :) . But really though, the community matters to us a lot. We respect all of your privacy, just as we hope you all respect each other on here.

        • Vega

          ….. just so long as you don’t require a valid facebook account. ;-)

    • ottlh

      Thank you! I see that you have a section for Canada so I’m happy.

    • Lance Wagstaffe

      Based on what seems to be happening, I hope you’ve got bags and bags of bandwidth. It looks like you might get Slashdotted by all of us fleeing Huffpost users.

  • SharynTG

    I am a Huffpugee and I seek asylum at your website.

    Happy to be here and able to freely comment. Thank you.

  • geezer 56

    Just went to look at the comments again under Tim McDonald’s article–wow, what a sad, sad place it is. Then I checked out HP’s front page to look at the comment numbers. One article, “UN Inspectors: Chemical Weapons Were Used in Syria,” was posted at about 5:30 Eastern and yet has only 27 comments. Another is “What Your Favorite Cheese Says About You”–93 comments.
    I’m beginning to think my self-imposed exile is a blessing in disguise.

  • SharynTG

    I am a proud Huffpugee. I have found asylum here and with Disqus. I no longer am censored immediately for calling Huffpo out on their lies and 1984 Gestapo tactics.

    They just lie and don’t care. Yet they’d be the FIRST IN LINE to report on and cast shade on any other news site that is doing exactly what they are.

    That’s HUBRIS, baby, and hypocrisy.

    They want to keep people chained up in Plato’s Cave.

    I say let them have their fun. I was REAL tired of all the Miley Cyrus and Kimye front page “stories.”

  • BornOkayTheFirstTime

    “Member since January 2006″ — I was an early adopter, well before there were even a thousand registered members. I only started actively commenting in the last couple years, but I’ve always tried to be respectful and eschew the trolls. I’ve had quite a few posts die in moderation, and I’ve even had some mysteriously vanish even after others favored them and replied to them. It’s gotten increasingly tiresome. The “improvements” to the comment system were and are still odious, but I learned to put up with it.
    As one of those who should have been grandfathered in, I feel lied to and disrespected. Under no circumstances will I open a Facebook account, so I’m currently muzzled from any conversation there when I have things I could say. I’m not deleting my account, but I’m minimizing my browsing and silently watching the meltdown. Congratulations AOL HP; enjoy your negative karma.
    It’s nice to seek out new neighborhoods to visit and still see some familiar names.

    • Vega

      FYI, HP is revenue driven from advertisers, click on an ad and they get paid. Their corporate advertising rates are based on the number of visitors to their site by the day, week, and month. The higher the metric the higher the rate, like the superbowl generates the highest cost advertising on TV. Just visiting the site increases one of their metrics.

      • BornOkayTheFirstTime

        This is true, and I get how it works. I admit I’m torn on this. I almost never click on ads to begin with, so they don’t get much from me that way to start with. Currently I’m just looking at the front page (to see comment counts on new stories), my profile page (to see desertions), and Tim McDonald’s obnoxious blog post (to see what those who stayed have to say). I don’t exactly like to help drive their visitor/view metrics, and yet I kind of still want a front row seat to the destruction.

      • ottlh

        I never found HP’s ads to be well targetted (probably why they needed to merge with Facebook). However, I will click on ads on other sites if it’s something I’m interested in purchasing or researching before considering to maybe think about potentially purchasing (which is more often the case). :)

  • dvncmdy

    Good riddance to what has become a conglomerate. Huffington is a sell out!

  • dvncmdy

    If we build it….they will come. I see many friends here and on Poynter. Glad to see all you guys!

  • Denni A

    hello fellow huff posters,
    glad I found this site with other huffpo users. I too was a huffpo member for 5 years. things changed drastically after Arianna’s sellout to AOL, the writing was on the wall. the moderation had also become intolerable and I was on the verge of leaving there anyway so this new debacle just gave me the push I needed. I look at this way, huffpo is the same as any other business venture, you walk into a store and the owner treats you like crap, you walk out and never go back and find another store. huffpo needs me (us) more than I need huffpo.
    maybe some enterprising news blogger will create a site similar to huffpo and we can all congregate there and literally have free speech, free discourse and free discussion in real-time.
    who cares about fans, friends, badges and rewards, I want free, unfettered speech.
    thanks to Epoch for welcoming us here.

    • BornOkayTheFirstTime

      Frankly, if there’s anybody out there looking to build that sort of site which is more committed to free speech and open discourse, I’d be interested in helping to make it a reality.

  • Sean Taylor

    Hey Huffington…SUCK IT!! I’m here now and will NEVER go back to your site.

    • Nokilissa

      Good lord. Second time this evening I sprayed coffee.

  • Canukistani

    Another HuffPo refugee here looking for a place to call home. While I
    wasn’t as prolific as many others in the HuffPo community, I was a
    long-time member and as many have said feel deeply betrayed and
    disappointed to find out how little the user community means to them.
    Just sheep to be shorn apparently. I’ve closed my account and have no
    plans to return. This looks like it might be a friendlier place.

    • dvncmdy

      Greetings my fellow HP can go foch themselves friend!

      • Canukistani

        I’m missing them less already.

    • Lance Wagstaffe

      If you were Canuckistan Commie over there, we were friends.

      • Canukistani

        No, I was just Canukistani there too. I was there for many years and I was sorry to walk away, but it was definitely the right thing to do.

        I’m happy to see so many of us here. As I said, this looks like a friendlier place that actually cares about its community.

  • Aldyth

    Greetings, fellow refugees from the Website That Shall Be Not Be Nameless.
    I was a member at the Huffington Post under the name of Aldyth since 2008, with 2500 friends and almost 20,000 comments. When they first announced that they were going to do the policy change in August, rebellion broke out in the ranks and there were comments all over the site about how badly that change would impact a lot of us regulars. In response, Tom McDonald announced that they would grandfather us in.
    They lied to shut us up. Then, they pulled a surprise attack and made the change with no advance warning. They didn’t want the rebel forces posting negative comments all over their site, so they used a sneak attack.
    I’ve sent them four complaints. Each one responded to with a canned reply. If you go to the policy announcement page, which is buried so it doesn’t show up on the front page, you will see over three thousand comments. You will also notice that Tom McDonald only responds to comments that ask clarification on how to comply with the change. He ignores the entire conversation of complaints and utter rejection of the new policy. I’d join in on the complaints, but I refuse to comply with the policy change in order to do it.
    The Huffington Post has become what they always said that they despised. They are suppressing discussion and they are lying outright to the people who had been the most loyal for several years.
    We are leaving in droves. Comments on all articles are down. If they think they will bounce back and recover, they are deluding themselves. Anybody here found a carton of New Coke at the grocery store lately. This move by the Huffington Post will be studied in business classes as an example of how to make a bad decision that hurts your brand.
    I’m delighted to see old friends here and to be receiving a warm welcome from The Epoch Times.

    • dvncmdy

      We greet you with open arms and freedom of speech!

      • Aldyth

        I just need to figure out how to upload my avatar and I’m all set. Good to see you here.

        • dvncmdy

          If you click on your user name you should then see a spot that says edit profile and then you will see a place to put your avatar….hope that helps. Look forward to commenting with you!

          • Aldyth

            Thank you for the helpful hint. I had to switch photos, but Daisy is still my avatar.

    • Lance Wagstaffe

      I’ve got an even longer history there. And I was going to tell you I had almost 3,300 fans. Lucky I checked. I’ve lost more than 200 since that policy change. Since I haven’t been there to make anybody angry, the only thing I can think of is that those people have closed their accounts and left. I think I might be visiting here from now on instead.

      • Aldyth

        Mine were down about 120. Back when AOL bought HP, they dropped about 15 or 20. When HP did the first announcement of the planned change in August, I lost another 20 or so. This will be a massive defection with 120 as only the beginning.

    • Lance Wagstaffe

      Hey, good to see you again, my friend! Counterglow, once again at your service. ;-)

  • jackholesrealm

    “If you do not want to link your Huffington Post account to Facebook, you can still log in to your account and fan and fave other users and their comments. And if, for whatever reason, you fear posting a comment under your name — if you are a whistleblower, or fear harassment, or any other reason — you can apply for the right to comment anonymously by filling out this form.”

    The form still requires you to give up your Facebook account to them. clearly this shows their true motives, to turn to intelligent users into nothing more than monetization drones. welcome to the era of the Facebook Borg. here is a little holiday cheer for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkbpJDBJUSE&feature=c4-overview&list=UU2pN9L19ep0D6jEpJEBXYlw

    • Denni A

      I still have my account there and was going to delete it but haven’t logged in a couple days and have now decided to just let it desiccate into the dust-bin of history by not accessing it anymore.
      as for monetization drones, Bill Moyers had a segment on this just last week how corporations are shaping and forming society to become nothing more than units(widgets) of consumerism, squeeze every single penny out them until they have nothing.

      • Lance Wagstaffe

        That’s what I’ve decided to do. I might as well squat there like a toad on their servers, taking up space. If they think I’m going to give Fakebook a cell phone number just to comment there, they can kiss my rosy @55.

      • ottlh

        Looks like they’re removing the option to delete your profile. I went on there and couldn’t find the option on the profile page. I even went to their help center to make sure I was looking in the right place and found the following instructions:

        https://huffingtonpostcommunity.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200168834-What-happens-to-my-comments-when-I-deactivate-my-account-
        “You can deactivate your account at any time by visiting the preferences page for your profile.”

        There were no instructions or FAQs that specifically discuss deactivating profiles.

        I ended up having to email them.

      • imusintheevening

        That is what I am doing so far.

        As soon as I got the message, I contacted Ralph D and asked if there was a way to meet their demand without joining FB which I’ve sworn not to do. He replied:

        “Ralph
        D. (Huffington Post Support)

        Dec
        12 16:40 (EST)

        Hi
        Mark,

        Thank
        you for getting back to me. I can definitely understand what you are saying and
        I do appreciate the feedback that you have provided. At this time, the only way
        for our users to comment is by connecting their account to a verified Facebook
        account. I do apologize for any inconvenience that this may cause.

        Thanks!”

        Based on that I vowed to never click on their site again and also just let my account gather dust.

        • LaFemmeNikitty

          At least you got a reply. I sent a missive as a reply to an open help desk ticket, and received this:

          “Hi there!

          Thanks for reaching out to the Community Support desk! We are currently experiencing a high volume of inquiries.

          If you are contacting us in regards to the new Facebook verification requirement and our continued efforts to promote civility and accountability on the site, please read our Director of Community, Tim McDonald’s, blog post, here – http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-mcdonald/end-of-anonyminity_b_4418630.html.”

          A canned response …. I expected it, but still …. Obviously I read the article they directed me to, otherwise I’d have never written to them asking to please take me out of the verification maze.

          • imusintheevening

            Chalk it up to they got swamped with our ire.

            It is so much nicer not having to wade through the Louie Gohmert mASSES to read and post.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            It’s nice not to have to write a B-uT load of AS*Sterisks and odd spelling to make a point, too ;)

  • dvncmdy

    Headline for HP reads as follows ”
    O’S NSA PANEL: KEEP SPYING…..

    HP has SOME DAMN NERVE

  • Algebra Palin

    just testing

  • SharynTG

    I just figured out, too, to make sure you don’t click “keep profile private” if you want followers. Whoopsie.

  • SharynTG

    And can I tell you how much I love that EDIT button????

  • Jennifer Malcom

    There’s an oxymoron…Facebook and Privacy control…not hardly! If you could control your privacy, they wouldn’t have that stupid ticker on the side…they wouldn’t kick people off because they don’t like their political or personal agendas, and people’s personal photos wouldn’t be stolen to use for free advertisements! No way in hell will I be going back to Fake book for any reason! They did me a favor when they threw me off…far be it from me to make them change their minds! I’m actually much happier than I was before that.

  • Jennifer Malcom

    I would have closed my accounts, but they conveniently locked me out so I can’t. This way they can still count me as a user!

    • ottlh

      Really? I haven’t tried yet. You could always try sending them an email.

    • Vega

      you can check your account status without logging in by using this url

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/

      and typing your username at the end

    • ottlh

      I tried it out and it looks like they’ve removed the link from the profile page (for those who haven’t been locked out yet). Instead, I emailed them about the problem and asked them to deactivate my profile.

  • Lance Wagstaffe

    I’ve been with Huffington Post for many years (not as Lance Wagstaffe, of course), and have more than 3,000 followers. Unless I can find a way to fake my way in, I won’t be commenting there anymore. I have no intention of giving a site that is run by proven liars access to the kind of personal information they want.

  • EmpressL

    They simply want to select posters that agree with them. Most of the articles have “0″ comments now anyway.

  • Trudy Penland

    I left too. I hadn’t been active since they changed the comment formatting. I found a new home at Democratic Underground. Much more intelligent discourse…most of the time!

    • dvncmdy

      Yes, I went looking for other venues and found the Underground as well…..also Ponyter and Crooks and Liars……HP can go %$*& themselves

    • dvncmdy

      sorry, it’s Poynter. All new to me…but having fun searching out new places and old friends that are leaving as well.

    • Aldyth

      I’ll have to go visit that site. Thanks for recommending it.

  • Lance Wagstaffe

    I hope the angry and betrayed commenters figure out that Huffington Post has a Facebook page. And that it’s possible (at least right now) to leave comments on it. ;-)

    • Lindstr7

      Better yet. Is there an option to “unlike” HP? If everyone who was locked out gave them a thumbs down it might hurt.

      • Lance Wagstaffe

        I’m hoping enough people show up and slag them that they’ll wind up censoring people right there in front of their new best friends.

        • Jennifer Malcom

          Their friends won’t care…it’s the money they’re after. THey don’t give a chit about anyone’s privacy or their feelings for being censored…

    • ChesapeakePirate

      But, I’d have to sign in to Facebook to do that. Bummer for me!

      • Lance Wagstaffe

        Don’t bother, my friend. I’ve already left them a message about how a lot of people seem to be feeling. I hope others catch on and they wind up cutting off comments on Facebook. That would make them look REALLY stupid.

        • ChesapeakePirate

          That would be cool!! Well, HP sure did the ‘deed’ to us! I’ve seen hundreds of us long-time posters here and there around the net. Poynter, is one place. I think we should organize and start up our own “News Aggrigator”.

          • Lance Wagstaffe

            I like it!

    • Aldyth

      I’ve been doing that with lots of scathing remarks. I’ll have to visit it tonight and leave more.

    • Lindstr7

      doesn’t one have to have a FB account to leave comments?

  • ChesapeakePirate

    Don’t know if I’m here… Ahh, there I am! Hi, everyone!!! All my HP ‘refugee’ friends. My avatar is a little different, but it’s still me, ChesapeakePirate. I’ve missed you guys!!!

    • Aldyth

      Had to change mine, too. It’s great to see you here and your pithy commentary!

      • ChesapeakePirate

        Well, I did tend to pith some of ‘em off over there! Great to see you!

    • Jennifer Malcom

      I’m still the same, so if you recognize me, feel free to follow. I don’t recognize anyone…I only just got a computer, and was using a cell forever, and I couldn’t seem to figure out how to comment from that, but a few times by accident! :) P Pirate, I’m in Richmond, Va…glad to know ya, neighbor! Hey, send me a cut of that beef, would you? Better yet, if I get a small farm going, I’ll send my best to you to butcher! I’m a loooooong way from that, but I’m working on it!

      • ChesapeakePirate

        That’s really cool, Jennifer. I’ve been doing the Highlands for about 10 years now (maybe longer…) We send ‘em to a USDA inspected processing place that’s about the size of a country butcher shop. Generally, I’m on my pirate ship in Fell’s Point (Balto Inner Harbor area) unless on the farm in central Pa. If you ever get any beef or farm questions, feel free to ask. Pirate questions always go to the front of the line!!

  • imusintheevening

    On the bright side I just found this site. Left my 7,000 fans and too many comments to the dustbin immediately on Tuesday. Feels liberating.

    • ChesapeakePirate

      Hey, remember me?

      • imusintheevening

        Yes! Great to see so many friends here.

      • bastalready

        I do.

    • Aldyth

      Welcome, Imus. It seems the best and brightest are landing here.

      • ChesapeakePirate

        What am I… chopped liver?

        • Aldyth

          High quality chopped liver, at the very least. I’m working my way down the list.

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Well, you’re very sweet! I feel like I’ve come up in the world after the way HP kicked me to the curb.

        • dvncmdy

          Nooooooooo….you are like a fine Pate’

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Ohhhh… I like that. Put an “I” and an “R” in that and you get “Pirate.”

          • dvncmdy

            Yes, you’re like a fine pirate on a water cracker

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Don’t forget the grog!!

          • dvncmdy

            argh……fill me up a pint

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Sounds great! :-) )

    • Lance Wagstaffe

      Welcome, my friend. I was Counterglow over at HP.

      • imusintheevening

        Thanks!

    • dvncmdy

      Hey! I know you!

    • Quick Brown Dog

      Welcome Imus. I was the very same username at HP. :)

  • Skalavagr

    What on earth is the matter with people? It is literally child’s play and no more than ten minutes work to set up a spoof Facebook account in whatever crazy-ass comedy name you like, and then “verify” it without needing to use a cell phone!

    People – if you don’t know how to do this, ask a teenager!

    • ChesapeakePirate

      Well, it’s really a bit more than that. Sure, all of us HP refugees are capable of creating a crack and slipping through it to stay on HP. But, we’re doing a couple of things here: Firstly, we recognize that we’re the ‘draw’ there — people like reading what other people think and say. And, we realize that HP not only lied to us with their ‘grandfathered’ B.S., but that they’re trying to monetize us even further by invading our privacy — even if that is fake privacy that we created with a fake account at FB. Thirdly, we’re protesting this fetishistic, greedy, ‘need’ for strip-mining everyone’s privacy just to participate in an on-line news discussion. It’ll take a lot of butt-kissing and change — and some people getting fired — before we’ll return to HP.

      • SmotPoker

        Hear fooking hear! Well stated.

      • SmotPoker

        and followed….

        • ChesapeakePirate

          And now you’re followed back!! :-) )

      • dvncmdy

        I don’t think I would ever go back…….

        • ChesapeakePirate

          I doubt I would go back either. I would like to get them in the position of begging us to come back, though. Hey, then we could promise to go back at a certain day/time and not do it! Sort of like they lied to us about the ‘grandfathering.’

          • dvncmdy

            I don’t think they care. It’s all about revenue I think…and when I think of all the stories of corporate greed and they are no different. Just like all the fake rage about Snowden and the NSA…and what do they do? link people to Face Book and track ‘em there.They’ll be content with their inane and boring posters…those afraid of really speaking their minds because their boss or their friends might read their comments

          • Canukistani

            I agree. It must be the revenue. They clearly don’t care about their user community. The only reason they didn’t open a discussion on this is because they had their minds made up so they saw no use in talking about it.

            It’s pretty clear that if they’d consulted us they wouldn’t be able to claim that this was an ‘improvement’ being done for our benefit.

          • Lindstr7

            Are you a real Canadian? Is it the same on HP Canada?

          • Canukistani

            I am, indeed Canadian and yes, the Canadian pages are just a section of the same overall website. Not sure if it’s the same for the European sections, but HP Canada and HP US are different parts of the same site.

            I took a look at the Canadian section last night and there doesn’t seem to be much participation there either since the change.

          • ottlh

            Yay! Another Canadian! I’ve been wondering where we all went.

          • Canukistani

            Hi. Don’t know about the rest of us, but after wandering in the wasteland for a bit I seem to have landed here. Looks comfy and you don’t need to let strangers poking through your dirty laundry and find out who your friends are before they’ll let you open your mouth.

            I haven’t really been here long enough to be able to welcome you properly, but welcome just the same. Nice to have another Canuk around.

          • ottlh

            A warm welcome to you too! I don’t really know where the other Canadians are either. Happy that this website has a section for us though (although it is a little sparse at the moment) along with several offices in the Great White North.

          • Canukistani

            Yes, but I would imagine that they’ll have a little more Canadian content if we have enough of a presence here to warrant it. I’m just as interested in US and world news as I am in Canadian news though so I don’t see that as a problem in any case.

            The atmosphere here seems much more welcoming that HP has become and that’s important to me. It looks like a number of HP refugees are landing here though, and I’m hoping they can adjust to a bunch of us descending on them from out of nowhere.

          • ottlh

            You’re right! The atmosphere here is the difference between night and day. I can’t believe they’ve already had two staff members on here to welcome us.

          • Vega

            CBC, MacLeans, Yahoo Canada, there are not many options for us.

          • ottlh

            Not really much is there? So many publications behind paywalls :(

            Epoque Times – If you’re listening, we might be an untapped demographic!

    • dvncmdy

      why should we have to?

    • Terrapin

      Starve the beast.

      Your participation – fakebook or real, only enables and supports them.

    • Lindstr7

      Cell phone #?

    • Canukistani

      To me the main point is that it’s hard to believe that HP places any value on its community when it dictates a change like this and imposes it regardless of the views of that community.

      They’ve decided to make HP a Facebook app and told us that that’s that. Well, I don’t want a Facebook account, even a fake one. How can I in good conscience, create a dishonest, fake Facebook account in order to be able to express my honest opinion on HP?

      That they would do this in such a high-handed way indicates what value we had to them – little or none, apparently. I see no reason to hold them in any higher esteem than they held us.

      • dvncmdy

        Right on!

      • Barbagris

        Canuck, I couldn’t agree more with only one small exception. That would be to hook up to HP again and let the remaining posters know that there are alternatives. I keep thinking that “Revenge is best served cold” and I know I feel used and abused as do many others. Maybe I’ll get over it. Maybe not.

  • ChesapeakePirate

    When I’m not piratin’ on the Chesapeake, I raise Scottish Highland beef. From now on, I’m gonna’ start namin’ every cow “Arianna.”

    • dvncmdy

      You may have a stampede on your hands……

      • ChesapeakePirate

        I’ll start posting their pics on Reddit or something. If I raised pigs, I’d name ‘em “Mcdonald” or whatever his name is. (The guy that lied to us.)

        • dvncmdy

          well……I called Mr. McDonald a bad name and it’s moderating…..

          • ChesapeakePirate

            I’m in ‘moderation hell’ too, for something. But, I can’t remember what I wrote.

          • ChesapeakePirate

            My reply is in moderation!

          • Lindstr7

            Pending ad infinitum

          • dvncmdy

            well….at least they don’t make me give up my cell number and log onto Face Book….I can deal

            ‘)

          • Lindstr7

            I misunderstood, where did you post the dig at McDonald?

          • dvncmdy

            Here….hahahahaha. I called him a D I C K

          • Lindstr7

            hmmm, better work on your euphemisms lol. One thing I’d like to point out is that Poynter is actually a journalism school and their site is likely not built for heavy commenting traffic. Hence, I will show due respect and civility so they don’t have to work so hard monitoring this sudden influx of comments. :-)

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Ohh… I didn’t know that! Well, if any of the journalists ever want to discuss Butterworth v. Smith 494 US 624, (SCOTUS 1990) I was one of the participants. (Won’t say which one, though!!!)

          • dvncmdy

            It wasn’t on Poynter, it was on Epoch Times. But, I should be “civil”, right…?

          • dvncmdy

            Nah….no worries. I think it’s funny…….

        • Rick Urban

          Good one, CP!

    • Lindstr7

      Insult to the cows!

    • Rick Urban

      Ha!! Hey, CP!! How’s ya?

      • ChesapeakePirate

        Rick!!!! Great to see you! Wow! It’s like somebody dropped a nuke and we’re finding each other scattered all over the place!

        • Rick Urban

          Seriously!! lolz! I’ve just been wandering the tubez looking for other signs of life! :) I read your post the other day at Keith’s – you were making some good sense! Did you end up nixing yourself yet? I had to go to work but I’m assuming everyone kept the noon deadline?

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Most did quit at noon. I didn’t as yet. I’m still in that ‘limbo land’ for those who won’t sign up to FB. I’ve been ‘fav’ and ‘fanning’ all the peeps that have been noting that everyone seems to have disappeared. I’ll probably delete my HP account on Monday. Was going to do it today, but for some reason, I want to keep in ‘haunt’ mode through the weekend, so some of my international friends will know something’s going on.

          • Lindstr7

            You can be our “deepthroat”

          • ChesapeakePirate

            Well, that’d be better than what Woodward turned out to be.

          • Rick Urban

            I’m with you! Watching the fan count drop has given me a good idea of how many are leaving too.

    • Jennifer Malcom

      LOL! Name the bulls Tim McDonald! There are plenty of others you can name both after…let’s not forget our lovely administration….so many idiots,. so little time to destroy our beautiful country and everything that made it so…

  • Lindstr7

    Don’t forget to click on the “star this discussion” in the upper right hand corner of comments section.

    • ChesapeakePirate

      What does that do?

      • Lindstr7

        I’m not sure lol, but I’m guessing the more stars, the more attention the thread gets? And we need all the help we can get right now.

        • ChesapeakePirate

          Ahh… O.K. I’ll do that. I’ve got to run for now. I’ll try to catch up on things later. Nice to see you!!

          • Lindstr7

            Cows need to eat too.

          • Rick Urban

            See you laters!

        • dvncmdy

          hahahaha…I clicked it to see what it does….now it’s green and still am unsure. Guess we’ll figure out at some point

        • Jrlh

          Whoa, you mean kind of like the old blue customer service lights at K-mart…lol

  • Jennifer Malcom

    Begging your pardon, but I have to be authorized to read replies to my comments? I thought I was signed in, since I’m actually posting here…if this is another I have to keep changing password or just try to remember it after umpteen times of changing it, I will just log off and leave. Yahoo has been doing that to me for weeks. I won’t have it there, and I’ve decided I’m done with them, I will not miss it that much here. If I’m restricted from reading replies to my own comments, then I’m leaving.

    • Lindstr7

      email authorization. No cell phone required. No friends list required. And you can keep your first born.

      • msanonymous222

        And no one says anything about grandfathering you in and not even
        owning up to lying about that.

        • Barbagris

          You know,MS that I totally agree with you on that ‘Grandfathering’ thing, but having had a few days to think about it, even if they didn’t lie and had kept their word, it would have meant that myself and many others would have been exempt while newer posters would have suffered the indignity. I don’t think I would have been comfortable staying on under that circumstance. Kind of like a caste system.

          • msanonymous222

            I agree with you, and I would have never wanted to see that. What bothers me more than anything about all of this–from start to finish–is their willful disrespect of all who posted there, new and old. It’s left SUCH a bad taste in my mouth.

    • Guest

      not sure, but you may have to have cookies enabled in your browser for Disqus.

      there is at times a lag from when you post to when it appears on this site.

      • Lindstr7

        Many of us from HP are new to Disqus and I’m sure they’re working it out. Staff here at ET welcomed everyone yesterday and apologized for any delays/glitches, that they’re working hard to keep up.

    • Vega

      you may have to enable cookies in your browser fro Disqus.

      when you are in the post box look at the bottom right of the box it will have “Post as …..” be sure it does not say anonymous

  • Lindstr7

    Just clicked on EpochTimes “about us” link above and this is what I found:

    “Our Values

    A human being’s fundamental right is the right to be heard. We uphold
    and defend freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and freedom of
    assembly. We are also strong advocates for freedom of belief, and for
    all human rights, for all people.”

    Hear hear!

    • ChesapeakePirate

      …and then there is the “unalienable Right” to Freedom of Disbelief! Which is what HP has turned into.

    • Nokilissa

      A Frickin’ MEN! SO pleased to be here I’m practically shouting :)

  • bastalready

    Can anyone tell me why when I try to respond to someone, I am unable to do so or why I am sent to a page with a lot of spaces and then just the text of this article…new here.

    • JustaSlob

      Shoot….I spelled your name incorrectly!

      • bastalready

        awww, you meant me…thanks!!!

    • Lindstr7

      I think there are some minor glitches for new sign ups. Someone working for ET posted a welcome yesterday and explained they’re working hard to keep up with the influx of new users in the last few days (those who refuse to sell their personal information as price of admission to HP/FB). I believe there are moderators here as well, so be patient and it will probably correct itself.

      • bastalready

        Hey, thanks!!!

    • Lindstr7

      Also, you can “follow” other users by hovering over their name and click follow. (when your glitches get worked out that is)

    • Ben_Chasteen

      Hi Bastalready, occasionally there are some glitches with disqus, and unfortunately, we at Epoch Times don’t have any control over those. However, we can control what types of comments need moderated. Since most of all of you all seem to know each other and seem like a good bunch, you should start seeing posts right away. However, any complete curse words will be flagged automatically and any links will be as well, We allow links just as long as it is relevant to the discussion or article.

      • bastalready

        Thanks,Ben.

        • JustaSlob

          Yea missy…..so watch that language!! (heh)

          • bastalready

            : P

          • bastalready

            neener,baby

      • bastalready

        I have a question. Unless i set it to private is my email address available to all,Ben?

      • Barbagris

        Hello Ben, I’m new here as well, a refugee from HP (mostly Canadian posts). I kinda notice a number of folks here from that world. It might be an idea for your editors to put their minds to the ongoing exodus from the Canadian contingent and look a a ‘Canadian Politics/News’ section of your excellent site’. By the way, thanks for the friendly reception!

  • Kenny Wopper

    Hooray for HP- who cares if some users cancel. There upset because they can no longer be anonymous by posting hateful racist remarks. These people using privacy as an excuse. They are just racist who scour sites intent on posting racist comments- Hip Hip for HP

    • Vega

      to each his own ………. but in my case you could not be more wrong. I value my privacy, and Facebook does not. google “hack facebook account” and see just how easy it is, and what can be had.

      • Robin S Summertown

        That story was all over HP before they decided to climb in to bed with them.

    • SmotPoker

      You sound quite “blissful”. I’ll leave it at that.

      • Lindstr7

        (looks like we have our first troll)

        • SmotPoker

          Agreed

        • Rick Urban

          heh!

    • Lindstr7

      Hey, anyone who wants to sell their private information as price of admission is free to do so. (but caveat emptor: anything, past, present, and future you post on FB is their property and HP is reserving that right as well now.) Want to give your friends list away? Feel free. Cell phone. Ditto. It’s your right. It’s my right to say No Thanks.

    • Jrlh

      I am convinced it had NOTHING to do with the civility of discussions or so called trolls. There was actually very little compared to other sites I have been to. It was all about the money for HP……

      • Lindstr7

        You got Kenny pegged with the last word in your first sentence. (singular, thankfully)

    • geezer 56

      Just found a use for the “down” arrow.

      • Lindstr7

        lol, ignore is the best option. (don’t want to feed them, they’ll just multiply)

        • geezer 56

          Yep, I’ll do that in the future. Here, at least, we can show our disapproval without feeding such people.

          • Lindstr7

            Yeah, I just worry that any numbers, up or down, will give them attention. unless of course they have a quota of neg votes and then the comment disappears, (I’ve seen sites that have done that to prevent trolling) but this place might be too egalitarian for that sort of thing.

          • geezer 56

            You could be right–time will tell. I have to admit, my experience on HP was educational. Learning not to rise to bait like this was a daily struggle, and I wasn’t always up to the task. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stop being snarky, but I feel like we’re being treated like adults here, so I do intend to put my best foot forward.

          • Jrlh

            Yea, now I have to look at people on the left like actual real people..:) Still can’t wait to hit the stories and mix it up….lol

          • geezer 56

            Well, I’m a “leftie,” but I’ve had this idea that if people can start off on common ground–like here, maybe?–there’s a much better chance for civil discussion.

      • Vega

        didn’t even realize it was there, now I know.

    • Lance Wagstaffe

      Aroint thee, troll.

      • Quick Brown Dog

        I’m trying to figure out if former HP users are here under new names. Are you the user known as Professor Wagstaff? PW was on my fans/friends list.

        • Lance Wagstaffe

          Over at HuffPost, I was Counterglow.

    • TheTruthseeker33

      Hi Kenny, I didn’t want to do this, but wanted to show you how easy this is. So I am really confused by this comment you made on a Philadelphia2035 FB page: Kenny Wopper: “who cares about greedy septa and their grossly overpaid bus drivers with 9th grade educations– good riddance” The reason why I am confused is because I noticed that your friend Michelle works for Septa. I hope you didn’t offend her with your comment. Also if I were an ad company I would be trying to sell you HD TV’s so you can make sure you don’t miss the Mets or the Giants next big game.

      • geezer 56

        OMG!!!

      • JustaSlob

        HA!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!

      • geezer 56

        Click on his name, and his past comments will appear. Scroll to the bottom, to a comment he made 7 months ago. It pretty much tells you everything you need to know about Kenny Wopper.

        • TheTruthseeker33

          I am really not trying to hurt Kenny or want to harm his personal life. This was just a simple act of showing what an extra 10 min can do.

          • SmotPoker

            You are a far better person than I am at this stage in life. People like him make my blood boil, and ashamed to part of the same society that has produce such ignorant citizens.

          • Robin S Summertown

            I am relieved to see some names I recognize. Thanks to SharronG for sliding one past moderation on HP to make aware of this site. I’ve been looking for two days for a new home.

            BTW, back on topic. It is very easy to create a fake FB ID using a burn phone. So trolls are the least of HP’s problems. Now they’ve lost their legitimate commenters for good with this stupid requirement and created a haven for trolls.

          • Barbagris

            Just saw a Burner today for $4.99. Might be a nice little investment to create a little mayhem back at HP. OOPS! Little devil on my shoulder!

          • Robin S Summertown

            If I still had my broom I probably would have done just that. But I grew up, darn it.

        • JustaSlob

          Which nasty comment Geez?? I read about 10 of them : )

          • geezer 56

            Yeah, I know, but the comment under the “Celebrity House for Sale” article is a doozy.

          • JustaSlob

            With ya.

          • EmpressL

            As per your suggestion, I read all his comments and can plainly see that HE is the racist.

        • TheTruthseeker33

          So I am no hacker or anything, I just know how to search for things. The scary part is that if I found this by just doing a quick search here and there, imagine how much info is coming through to FB and HP. From all the photos that are posted, to where we live, where we eat, what we buy. It is pretty scary actually.

          • Canukistani

            Nice to see that somebody gets it! I’ve heard ‘if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear’ so painfully many times it’s enough to make ya puke. Glad to see somebody getting past that so decisively. My hat’s off to you.

          • Lindstr7

            Does that make FB the NSA of social media?

          • Vega

            maybe Facebook is an arm of the NSA

          • Barbagris

            Vega!! Just ran across you here. I’ve benn on the look out for former fans and friends on other sites since I gave HuffPo the finger. Have you run across Auntifasist anywhere? And a question for anyone, where did Epoch Times get my old HP handle ;Barbagris?

          • Vega

            if you were using Disqus with another site and had your username there it goes with you to every Disqus enabled site. eg go to Poynter or Macleans and you will not need to register, its all there ready to go.

            I’ve seen a few friends here and over at CBC, but have not caught Auntifascist anywhere yet. The problem may be some who have moved on may have a different name on other sites.

            I pulled the plug on HP yesterday morning (tried Tuesday but I could not delete the account for some reason), by that time almost a third of friends had disappeared.

            If you find other interesting places to hang out post here, I’ll be sure to check them out as I’m seeking a good Canadian content forum.

            good luck my friend

          • ottlh

            Just makes me feel even better about the decision not post under my real name or to connect my HP account to Facebook.

        • JustaSlob

          Odd huh?…. Whopper head must have lost his voice. lol

      • SmotPoker

        Did you…did you just strip a troll down to his underpants in public? Bwuahahahahaha! Let me help….

        Celebrity House For Sale: Ray Lewis | Bankrate.com

        Kenny Wopper • 7 months ago

        honkykiller -go rob a bank monkey and go back to africa

        Gee what a swell fella huh?

      • imusintheevening

        I just noticed if you hover over toggle up the persons giving an upcheck are shown, but those giving a downtick are not. Now, that is privacy.

    • EmpressL

      Most of the people who accuse others of being racist are racist THEMSELVES. They like to cover all the issues with the racist blanket as an excuse for lack of facts. If you notice YOU are the ONLY one talking about race!

    • Barbagris

      That brush you are painting with is kinda wide, don’t you think?

  • Jrlh

    Someone down arrow this…I want to see what it does.

    • geezer 56

      Your wish is my command.

      • JustaSlob

        Cool…..how about a six-pack?

    • imusintheevening

      Kenny below demos in bright red how the trolls get outed here.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Why is it you can see who up votes, but not who down votes? I’m no troll but got downvoted for a comment. Boo, hiss, I feel bad about myself now, going to drown my sorrows in heaps of chocolate :(

        • Lindstr7

          Someone who doesn’t like kitties? It wasn’t me I swear! Ruff.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Hmmmm well I heard a noise but pretty sure it wasn’t a bark ;)

  • Jrlh

    Jeez…It shows it as a like…..I was wondering….

  • msanonymous222

    Cya HuffPo. Well, hello there, Epoch Times!

  • Steven G Smith

    Greetings,
    I closed out my HP account on the first day the new requirements were launched. I
    have seen far too many other attempts to capture personal information for
    nefarious purposes by online entities to stand in line and wait for the trains
    to take us to the happy place where we can work and live among our own kind in
    peace. This year I have lost my job, my dog and two cats. I found solace and
    comfort for a while in the open forum of online commentary on HP, but thanks to
    its latest move to turn me into a source of revenue, I realize it was time to
    put Old Yeller Journalism down. I’m not sure if I’m ready to start again, but
    only time will tell.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Mine went the second day. I couldn’t believe what I was told, FB or no posting after being there since 09.

      But if we’re all honest, we could see this coming. I keep seeing comments about how heavy handed they are about moderation driving down commenting. What I think they’ll see now is an even larger drop as even more leave over this FB nightmare.

      I didn’t have a FB account for a reason which is true of many other users on HP. Now those people are gone, many of them posting well thought out commentary.

      • Jerry Gardner

        They are losing their fan base for insisting they subscribe to a system they were reluctant to participate in from the get to. The very reason for them joining up with HP in the first place.

    • imusintheevening

      You have lost too much for one year. I hope it helps to know you have found an audience here today. Cheers for a better 2014 for you.

    • SmotPoker

      I too lost a pet, along with a beloved member of my family. I totally get where you are coming from. I’m still not “healed” despite roughly two months since my world starting caving in. Welcome.

      • EmpressL

        What can I do to cheer you up?

        • Steven G Smith

          Just knowing there are people like you and other here is more than enough. Thank you.

    • EmpressL

      Hang in there! But don’t besmirch the loyal dog (yellow or otherwise) with a Huff Po association! You need to get a happy avatar and you’ll feel a lot better.

      • Steven G Smith

        Took your advice about my avatar, what do you think?

        • EmpressL

          It’s a start. Did you read this:
          http://exiledonline.com/the-huffpo-business-model-deliberately-obliterating-the-separation-between-paid-advertising-and-real-reporting/

          (The whole address does not show till you hit on it.)

          Worth reading. It will make you feel fabulous about leaving HP!

          • Steven G Smith

            This is in line with what I’ve been saying for some time — social media works between individuals and small groups who organically mold it to suit their needs. Social media “gurus”, i.e., corporate communications and marketing people have been selling themselves and the idea that there is untapped wealth to be had in the social media world — you know, B.S. Perverting the platform to foist false blogs and comments demonstrates the real intentions of HP. Basically, HP uses its commenters and posters as a virtual sweatshop for content between the surreptitious PR and advertising.

    • JainDohNYC

      hi Steven – yea, 2013 has been a crap year for me as well. maybe leaving HP will shake off some of the bad juju. you know, fresh starts and all that…….

    • Barbagris

      It’ll come together. I’m hoping that after a while, all those ex-huffpoop will get together somewhere. Its starting already, bit by bit. Peace

    • Aldyth

      I’m sorry about the job, the dog and the cats. As for HP, I think we’ll all be better off.

      • Steven G Smith

        Thank you, and I think you’re right about HP.

  • SmotPoker

    Anyone else being asked by a popup after clicking on your My Disqus to see a new reply only to find it asking for you to log in stating that you don’t have authorization? Typing in your info is not accepted so you can’t see the reply?

    EDIT: Seems to be working fine now…..

    • Ben_Chasteen

      Sometimes you need to refresh the page, once you do it should show.

      • SmotPoker

        Oddly enough after my edit, it went right back to being impossible to log in and see the comment. Weird. Refreshing did nothing to help.

    • Jrlh

      Once just Today.

      • SmotPoker

        It did it to me a few times. Oh well, at least I can post without giving away my phone number and other personal info…

    • fumes

      hey SmotPoker..

      ‘ere ;-}-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  • UCBAlum

    It looks like he’s staying. I can’t say for sure. Like me, I think he’s having trouble leaving.

  • Winston Sleeves

    I deleted my account and I have no regrets.

  • Orange

    The front page of HP is looking barren. That FB registration was clearly a marketing ploy, nothing to do with civility or authentication, the idea being to increase ad revenue because they can mine user data via FB.

    HP sees users or customers fleeing in droves and don’t react or respond?! They are not popular because of their “journalism”. Their claim to fame was the ability to read and participate on their comment boards. They destroyed any credibility they had, traffic is heading south. Unlikely they can recover from this.

    • Robin S Summertown

      I would give anything to be in on the latest talk at the big table and how this is not going as planned. I wonder if they thought the majority were so addicted to HP they would do whatever HP wanted.

      • imusintheevening

        Turns out is has been the easiest “cold turkey” ever.

      • EmpressL

        “How much for d little dog?” I have a Reindeer Chihuahua. She came with me when I left Huff Po!

    • Aldyth

      Spot on. After the negative responses they got in comments all over the site when they first announced it in August, they said they’d grandfather us in. Then, they pull the sneak attack on 12/10 (another day that will live in infamy) so that there is no opportunity for a mass rebellion to appear in the comments. Instead, they’re getting an empty site.

  • Winston Sleeves

    I wasn’t that prolific and had deleted my account a couple of times due to moderation irritation but this time is for good. I recognize a few names here and it makes me happy to see so many come together in what is amounting to a pretty sizable protest. Anyone looked at the comment numbers today? They seem to be getting smaller and smaller LOL.

    • Quick Brown Dog

      I’m “following” everyone who’s a Huff refugee, which I guess is the equivalent of “fan and fave”. I had the same name on HP and am lucky enough to have been able to get the same name here.

  • MsPithy

    Hello Everyone, I just moved here from Huffpo, don’t have a Facebook page.

    …seems like a nice neighborhood.

    • EmpressL

      Cute Pooch! This is a happy group. I like it here better. So far the articles don’t have too much spin! I hated Huff Po for that!

    • fumes

      need any help unpacking?

    • Robin S Summertown

      Welcome, I was known as Summertown and so glad I found this group with the help of a poster on HP.

    • Quick Brown Dog

      Welcome! Empress L is right — poochie is ADORABLE! :)

  • Lindstr7

    All newcomers from HP are getting a “follow” from me. Welcome to all those newly arrived.

    • EmpressL

      Back at ya!

    • Barbagris

      Thank you Lindstr. Very neighbourly. Sounds good to a recent Refugee!

      • TigerLily2012

        Seems like a lot of my fellow refugees are here. O.O I arrived late to the party…

  • Robin S Summertown

    The only page on HP that has any traffic is the one about the FB requirement, it has now gone to 938 pages.

    For those that remember him Munshma_Quchi is reporting that there are lot of articles with zero comments and others that normally have high traffic just a small percentage of normal.

    • Lindstr7

      Big smile.

      • EmpressL

        Bigger smile! I’m trying not to even go to the site so they lose ALL their advertising money due to “NO HITS”.

        • Robin S Summertown

          I still have the email to the link that explains their stupidity. I’m opening up that page allowing me to read what is being posted about the stupid decision. I saw someone mention starting a petition to let them know on unhappy they are since its becoming obvious the posts are being ignored.

          • Canukistani

            If they’re paying any attention to their shrinking user community they ought to have a pretty good idea by now. On the other hand they were stupid enough to do something like this.

    • fumes

      snicker

  • fumes

    hello everyone! tim from huffpo sent me lol. sup with that?

    ;-}-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    • Robin S Summertown

      LOL You mean he actually did something not to tick someone off and actually helped?

    • Lindstr7

      Lol, is he even responding to his critics anymore? I’d guess he’s hiding under a desk somewhere.

      • fumes

        last seen..

        Tim and Arianna were in a van down by the river..

        trying to figure out what went wrong!

    • AskandTell

      Hi Fumes: SharynTG from huffpo sent me over. AskandTell here. .

  • Vega

    Just got a message from a friend who is still on HP, it seems the spammers are still getting through the new ‘security’ with their “my brother is making a killing on the internet” spam. she claims they are on about a third of the threads. she also tells me about half of her 2900 friends have disappeared along with next to no comments on Canadian stories, the US story comments are far lower than last week. The trolls that were on the site still appear to be active. So if this continues, what have they accomplished?

    • Robin S Summertown

      Proving what I said earlier, drove off the legitimate posters and gave the trolls free rein.

    • JainDohNYC

      I’m tempted to post a fake spam comment there, with a link back to here:
      “my Siamese twin makes $600/day speaking truth to power at: EpochTimesTiny.url”

      • Cynth

        LOL!

        • TigerLily2012

          lol you are everywhere now. :) )

          • Cynth

            Yes…I’m following the action! :-)

    • Barbagris

      Vega, they have predictably driven the vast majority of their best and most articulate posters to much saner sites. They have created a ‘diaspora’ who I hope in a short while will reconnect somewhere. Wracking my brain to figure out how that might happen. My thinking is that something like this site or Disqus itself may develop a separate ‘Canadian Politics’ section of their own and attract the HP Ex-pats. Waddya think? Incidentally, I figured out my Disqus mystery.

  • fumes

    huffpo is a ghostsite!

    just desserts ; )

    • Winston Sleeves

      I hope more and more people leave until not a single person is left!

      • SmotPoker

        From what I’ve seen it appears that the RW has taken over the site. Very few liberal based post. I’m not going there anymore, I’ve seen all I need to see there. If you squint you can see the tumbleweeds rolling across the screen.

        • Winston Sleeves

          A lot of articles have zero comments lol…and the ones that do have a fraction of what they used to. I have never understood Huffs seeming hatred for its own community.

          • SmotPoker

            That’s an easy one to lay out for you. Back in the day AH was rabid con. Totally. She is like a weathervane, shifting to whatever position the political winds are blowing for fun and profit. She has reverted to her conservative roots. It was about the money, not ideology.

          • Robin S Summertown

            Expect to see her on Morning Joe but not on Hardball any more.

          • Winston Sleeves

            Why not Hardball? I don’t watch MSNBC much since Keith left.

          • Robin S Summertown

            If Miss Arianna is returning to her conservative roots, Chris is liable to have her writhing on the floor what she’s allowed to happen to her long time followers. Joe will give her a pass, actually he’ll revel in it.

          • Winston Sleeves

            Tis a shame…I always enjoyed listening to her especially when she was on Realtime. I’ve lost a bit of respect for her and obviously for HP.

        • Jrlh

          and, that’s nuts…Why would the right stay, when HPs agenda is left?…I feel as if I am in an alternate dimension…Up is down, east is west and right is left….and I don’t even live where there is legal pot…

          • Canukistani

            HP’s agenda used to be left. I think now, sorry to say, it’s $$$.

          • Cynth

            I suspect it was always $$$. It has to be when you’re venture-backed. AH just talks a good game.

          • Canukistani

            You may well be right, but it may not always have been only $$$. Now that seems to be the case. They clearly don’t care about any sense of community now, whether they ever did or not.

          • Cynth

            AH goes where the wind blows. She started as a Dem, became and Republican. when it was convenient (to marry the wealthy Huffington), then became progressive again to launch HP. Now, it appears she’s moving away from this again. I was Republican when I was younger and more foolish, and I can’t think of a single thing that can bring me back to that line of thinking (and this was before the Tea Party, before the Gingrich speakership). That someone would flip-flop like this just smacks of pure opportunism and profiles on her are consistent with this.

          • Canukistani

            Yeah, I never cared all that much for AH, herself. Her embrace of what she’d been opposing so vehemently wasn’t all that convincing. But I did think that the HuffPo community was, at one time, a very comfortable place to be.

            It was the community, though, that drew me, not the reputation of AH. When you look at the fine people we see all around us here, the HP disapora, how could you not be drawn to participate?

            That feeling deteriorated over the years. In fact there were a couple of years that I was almost entirely absent due to the difficulty I had getting even the mildest of criticisms of the preferred HP positions on issues through the censors, but I still had the memory of better days there and so I returned.

            No longer, though. They’ve disabused me entirely of the notion that they have any concern for their community, or even that they really understand what they’ve thrown away. I’ll not even sign the petition. The trust has been broken and the bridge is burnt beyond repair.

          • Cynth

            Yes, it was the community for me, too, and I’m glad to have found — and still finding — many former members here and elsewhere. :-)

            Btw, have you seen this: http://exiledonline.com/the-huffpo-business-model-deliberately-obliterating-the-separation-between-paid-advertising-and-real-reporting/ ? JainDoh posted this earlier.

          • Canukistani

            I had not seen this in it’s entirety, although I read some of the pieces it links to earlier today. In my naivety, I had not realized the mendacity of this woman. I had always though she was a figurehead with no real input into the inner workings of HP. That she was basically irrelevant, so her beliefs, if any, didn’t really matter. Clearly I was wrong.

            As I said earlier, I’d been focused on the community rather than the corporate entity that hosted it. I guess that was one of the reasons I was so blind-sided by this policy change they foisted on us.

            On the plus side, though, look at this blossoming we have here of escaped and liberated HP folks! I think a lesson to be drawn is that we don’t really need HP to provide us with anything. We can build a community anywhere there’s space for us to land.

          • Cynth

            I knew she was a driven person who left people in her wake, but some of these articles have been eye-opening. Guess I was too involved in HP to have noticed them. Glad I know, and glad the community if finding its way out… :-)

          • Canukistani

            As am I. The quality of these people here that have pretty much made the HP community is amazing and that’s what always kept me coming back to HP.

            It could have been GodzillaPost for all I cared. It was never the Huffington caché (if there is such a thing). It was the community. That’s what the corporation of HP doesn’t understand. They’ll be a hollow shell of their former selves and not even notice that they’ve given up everything that’s really important.

            That’s one of the reasons I’m so happy to see so many of us have landed here together. We’ve escaped with the best and brightest and left HP the dross.

      • Robin S Summertown

        If SharronG continues to get away with posting about this site then more and more are liable to show up here. That’s the only way I found it. Doing a search gave me nothing suitable.

        • Winston Sleeves

          She is probably how I found out too, since I am still getting a kick out of reading the FB requirement blog still.

          • Robin S Summertown

            Me too. I have that page open in another tab, I’ve been doing blow by blow commentary on some of the comments.

      • fumes

        that would work!

  • Lindstr7

    It would be interesting to know if AOL stock could be affected if users keep pulling out of HP.

  • Jerry Gardner

    Seem like most of my HP F&F’s have migrated here or elsewhere. Pity.

    • Robin S Summertown

      It wasn’t easy finding this, I had help.

  • fumes

    these are epoch times @ huffpost!

    Katie Couric: ”Tim, as Community Director at Huffington Post.. whatever were you thinking?”

    Tim McDonald: ”Well Katie, I wanted to be rich like Arianna is now and Facebook made this offer and….”

    Katie Couric: ”Did you feel the bullet enter your foot? What was that like?”

    • Robin S Summertown

      Well, now we know where he is. First in the emergency room having his foot tended to, then off to do the rounds of the talk shows.

  • Lindstr7

    I hope Arianna Huffnpuff is feeling the sting of the mass exodus of HP users. Her reputation, which she has so carefully groomed over the years, will be forever tainted by this (especially since she was the figurehead promoting “civility” yeahright) and those on the left who eventually embraced her are now realizing what a fraud she is. May your stock plummet AOL and a pox on your house.

    • TigerLily2012

      Hi. I’m an HP refugee, lol.

      • Lindstr7

        Hi TigerLily. We all are…..welcome.

        • TigerLily2012

          Thanks :)

      • Winston Sleeves

        We all are darling

        • TigerLily2012

          I was on All-len-all.com. But it crashed today. So I was just randomly looking on Google to see the responses from the new FB policy and found this place. It’s letting me post even though I never signed up. I think it’s cause All is a disquis (spelling) site to?

          • Winston Sleeves

            Disqus…my name showed up as well…though I am not sure where from.Maybe Listverse.

          • TigerLily2012

            Lol so it’s not just me :)

          • Winston Sleeves

            Kinda creepy lol….oh well…better than being forced to sign up or link to facebook ;)

          • TigerLily2012

            Lol yes it is kinda creepy but I suppose it is a nice time saver to.

      • Robin S Summertown

        I don’t remember why but I went looking for you TL. I was hoping to find a name I new on another forum.

        • TigerLily2012

          You found me :)

          • Robin S Summertown

            No, you found me even though you didn’t know you were looking. LOL

          • TigerLily2012

            I”m awesome like that.

    • Barbagris

      I’m new here Lindstr, how do I follow you?

      • Robin S Summertown

        You can either put your cursor over the avatar or click on the name.

      • Lindstr7

        hover over my name, window pops up, click “follow”
        EDIT: rather hover over the avatar

  • psileste

    Another HP refugee here. I did not and will not go through FB. I’m not quite as convinced as others that this was all about money, though. I’m sure that was a part of it, and even a big part of it, but I also think that corporations are so closely intertwined with government these days to think that power plays as big a part in business as profit does in politics. Don’t forget how closely and willingly corporations are cooperating with the NSA.

    Before (and after) FB authentication, one of the most persistent complaints about HP was the incredibly inconsistent, slow, and arbitrary moderation. The government cares about the direction of our conversation around the digital water cooler. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t bother with paid posters and bots. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to wonder just how far the cooperation between large corporations and the government goes. If good commenters are influencing public opinion, the government would be highly motivated to do whatever was necessary to put an end to that. If they could convince HP that they stood to gain financially, I think they would cooperate as willingly as other corporations are cooperating with the NSA, at our expense.

    I don’t trust HP, and at this point, doubt if I would return even if they did a complete about-face.

    My plan is to pull up stakes and move to NewCo (Omidyar/Greenwald/Poitras venture) where I’m convinced the stories will be top-notch and my voice AND my privacy will be respected. Of course, my new digs are under construction, so I’m glad to see some familiar faces here and may move back and forth between the two sites.

    • TigerLily2012

      The moderation was way out of control. Even “G-Rated” comments would go to pending and every article was, “sensitive.”

      • Robin S Summertown

        Actually I think they just swept a bunch of G rated comments under the rug so they didn’t have to do anything with them.

        • TigerLily2012

          lol

        • Cynth

          Yes, when 75% of comments don’t make it past moderation, there will be innocent casualties among them.

          • TigerLily2012

            Yep.

      • SharynTG

        It’s a total Gestapo/1984 takeover there. I mean really, they are FORCING Facebook on people. It’s disgusting and hypocritical.

        The Huffington Post: Breaking News and Selected Opinion

    • Lindstr7

      So, you’re saying the government made them do it? Or convinced them they would gain financially?? Erm…..

      • psileste

        I don’t know. Would you put it past either of them? If so, why?

        • Lindstr7

          I’m not sure I can wrap my head around something that BIG (conspiracy!). I don’t get a tie in with HP and the govt. Maybe a FB tie in govt/NSA, but HP? Not making the connection (although I wouldn’t be surprised if there was one.)

          • psileste

            Government and corporations are joined at the hip. No tin-foil required to see that. I don’t know if my speculation is true or not, but I do think it’s worthy of consideration. I don’t trust the government and I don’t trust corporations, especially those that are as disrespectful of their users as the government is of its constituents. Their “needs” are aligned and it’s no longer unthinkable to me.

          • SmotPoker

            Why that, that would be a kleptocracy! Surely you jest….

          • psileste

            Guess my trust has been broken too many times.

          • Quick Brown Dog

            I just what? And stop calling me Shirley!

    • SharynTG

      Welcome another Huffpugee!

      • psileste

        Thanks, Sharyn!

        • Sharyn G.

          I’m so happy it’s working out. I had great conversations there and I will try my darnedest to steal all the people I can away and get them here where they can be free and not sheep.

    • Quick Brown Dog

      NewCo, it’s called? Thanks for the recommend :)

      • psileste

        It’s just a temporary name until they unveil the real one, but that’s what they’re calling it for now.

    • Lindstr7

      I keep coming back to your comment (above) in my mind. I’m going to think on it more. Thanks.

      • psileste

        Thanks for being open-minded and considering. Like I said, I’m speculating, but my trusting nature has been transformed by experience into doubt when it comes to both government and corporations.

        • Lindstr7

          Wanted to share this tidbit with you (courtesy of JainDoe). It’s not the govt. but still pretty telling of HPs true motivations:

          “We make [corporations] part of the conversation,” explained
          another HuffPo marketing executive in 2011. “We’re acting as a
          social-media agency for our advertisers on The Huffington Post. We’ve become advisers to some of these companies about how to conduct the social-media outreach . . . We help them counter this sort of one-sidedconversation that is going on on the Internet about their companies.”

          http://exiledonline.com/the-huffpo-business-model-deliberately-obliterating-the-separation-between-paid-advertising-and-real-reporting/

          • psileste

            Wow, thanks for the link. Whether the government is involved or not, HP’s choices are nefarious and untrustworthy!

  • Robin S Summertown

    It appears the only popular topic on HP is now being moderated, traffic has come to a screeching hault.

    • SmotPoker

      Good.

    • SharynTG

      It’s the Gestapo and 1984 over there.

      Funny too, because they are the ones who’d normally be calling out other sites for doing exactly what they are doing.

      Be a Huffpugee with us. If you go back there please tell people wherever are and leave a link to this site.

      • Robin S Summertown

        Can’t, no FB account, won’t get one just to stay there and I deleted my account for good measure.

        • Sharyn G.

          I’ve read here that my comments and links that I’ve been leaving there to redirect people have stayed and are working! I went back and added a few. Soon there will be more of us here :)

      • Quick Brown Dog

        As I always say, am I the only one for whom the irony is not lost, about the fact that Mark Z Limited was BORN IN… 1984?

  • Classical_Gas

    Many thanks to The Epoch Times for welcoming HP refugees!

    For months HP has tightened the noose on their long-time members, and rewarded the trolletariat. Cutting off the ability to find and communicate with friends was the flashing red light signaling their desire to kill off the community. Requiring a Farcebook link was the last straw.

    I’m happy to see so many old friends here, and look forward to Life After The Poo. My account is still there, inactive, but not for much longer.

    Hello, all!

    • SharynTG

      So happy to see you!

      • Classical_Gas

        Thank you. So happy to be seen! ;-)

    • SharynTG

      If you can- go back there and give people the link to here. I’ve been doing it all day. Eventually I will get banned, but then ill simply celebrate!

      I’m a Huffpugee and found asylum here.

      • Classical_Gas

        I did not do The Dance of the Farcebook so, alas, I cannot post there.

        I will be sure to share this link with others wherever I travel.

    • Quick Brown Dog

      Good to see you, friend. BTW yours is one of my favorite WWE Entrance Themes ;-)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhMuCiAe6vA

      • Classical_Gas

        Good to see you, as well!

        Thanks for the link, too. :-)

    • geezer 56

      Hello, hello!

      • Classical_Gas

        Hello, yourself! Good to see you, Geezer!

  • geesepeace

    I hope everyone leaving HP who had ‘liked’ them remembers to

    ‘unlike’ them……i don’t see that number dropping on the front page.

    • Lindstr7

      I would if i had a FB account but I don’t.

      • geesepeace

        I don’t mean on HP on FB….if you look at the front page of HP at the top right side they have 1.3 m likes. There is a like button on the HP page. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?country=US

        • Lindstr7

          Right, but you need a FB account to use that button yes? So, I would need a FB account to “unlike” since there isn’t that option on the HP facebook icon right?

    • Lindstr7

      I also notice that comments equal “shares” now. So anyone posting a comment is automatically “sharing” with other facebook members. Barf.

      • SharynTG

        Those creeps! Really. They just dictated EVERYTHING. They forced those changes on people and the sheep who stayed don’t even realize they have been played.

        I had linked my FB account to HP back in 11 & I didn’t care, and I always used my real name .

        My issues came when it became an ORDER for people to sign up for accounts with a publicly traded company.

        Anyone who can’t see the huge cash cow opportunity here is blind.

        I was okay doing it by CHOICE. But by force? JA Wohl Frau Ariana!

        No way. She can bite me.

        • Quick Brown Dog

          To Arianna’s rolling over on the Facebook Anschluss of the Demokratia Empire, we say: OHI! (Greek for “no!”)

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohi_Day

          • Sharyn G.

            Very nice! And in German ill simply say “Ariana hat ein Vogel,” which translates into basically that she’s effing nuts.

        • Chris Leone

          Agreed.

        • Robin S Summertown

          We all need to vow to go take a look in six months. What do you think we’ll find? Its disgusting that so many that have been there for years were treated like dirt.

          • Canukistani

            I’m starting to feel like if I look in there I’ll have to wash my hands afterwards.

          • Sharyn G.

            And I hope whatever rise in stock price FaceBRAG gets outta this that it goes back down.

    • msanonymous222

      Thanks for the reminder.

  • SharynTG

    If anyone else still has a huff account, leave messages on this thread to get people here. Eventually they delete them but so far I’ve gotten the message to at least a few good people.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-mcdonald/end-of-anonymity_b_4418630.html

    It’s that blog where they give their lies out. But people there are asking where they can go. They will delete those comments and the ones you post directing them to disqus and to here but some make it through . ;)

    I just had to try to let our good friends know.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Well, I think I destroyed the spelling in your name but I do believe your posts in the only popular topic is how I found it . Thank you for that.

      • SharynTG

        VERY GLAD to hear that. Spread the word there if you are back. Ill soon be banned and unable to keep telling people. They are censoring me left and right as it is :)

    • Quick Brown Dog

      Unfortunately I can’t let my former friends know, because I’m one of the ones who fled here and doesn’t have a Facebook account. I saved a text file of the usernames on my list — maybe someone who is straddling the fence can let them know by proxy?

      • Sharyn G.

        Ill help ya any way I can. I’m still peppering that article telling people to come here, fingers crossed. Ill be banned any minute.

    • fumes

      THANK YOU SharynTG!

    • Chris Leone

      Your posts are getting through, it’s how I found my way here. I’ve been desperately searching for such a site the last few days. Thanks!

      • Sharyn G.

        GREAT! I’m so happy. I went back an hour ago and left about 15 more ha ha ha ha!

        They’re gonna surround my house with S.W.A.T!

    • Canukistani

      I think it was reading one of your references that led me here after I closed my HP account and was just there to follow the comments on the horrible policy change. Just wanted to say thank-you.

      • Robin S Summertown

        Same here. My timing is never that good. I got the info before they deleted it.

      • Sharyn G.

        Great! I will keep peppering that place until they BAN me. I literally spent hours there today trying to tell people that we are here if they want to come. Thanks-

        • Canukistani

          As you can surely see here, your efforts are greatly aprecciated by many. Once again my thank-you and a deep bow. You’ve earned it!

          • Sharyn G.

            Thanks so much. I want as many of my good conversation buddies here as I can gather. Many of my comments were deleted- BUT- many made it through. I will do it every day until I’m banned. :)

            Thank you.

    • Aldyth

      Thank you for making the valiant effort. I’ve been posting at HP’s facebook page that those who are abandoning the sinking ship should gather here. I hope others will do the same.

      • Sharyn G.

        Great great! That’s exactly what we need because sooner or later they will ban me and then someone needs to carry on . Perfect.

  • SmotPoker

    I don’t care much for Arianna, but to be honest, I ADORE her flying monkeys….

    • SharynTG

      Oh yeah! Lets hope it rains on her little parade soon!

      • Quick Brown Dog

        “AAAAAUGH, I’m melting, I’m melting! What a cruel, cruel world…..!”

        • Lindstr7

          Vhat a kwel kwel vurld dahlink!

          • Quick Brown Dog

            Zsa Zsa Huffingabor?

        • SharynTG

          She totally deserves it.

  • Robin S Summertown

    I’m about to find out if this is the wrong thing to do but here goes:

    Fred H. (ForrestGrump)

    2

    295 Fans·Just a Facebook slave sold by HP.

    Well, “FORPEACE”, the member mentioned as exemplary right there in the original article announcing this ghastly policy change, left the site in disgust in reaction to it. Yesterday, another major contributer named Sharyn G., with 3,400 fans, announced that she was leaving. She tried to explain why but her posts were erased. Then when she complained about them erasing her posts, they erased her goodbye post (while I was responding to it), for no reason I can fathom. As though they wanted us to forget she ever existed. I tried to document this in a post of my own. But they erased that as well.

    Today, “COINYER101″, a popular political pundit and fixture of the HP member community, with over 10,000 fans, has mysteriously disappeared. Without a trace or announcement. His account as dead as a doorknob.

    The top headline article about the missing American in Iran has exactly 12 commenters right now.

    There is a cold chill blowing through the air. It feels like I’m in a horror movie, and the people around me are getting offed, one by one. I’m wondering when it’ll be my turn. The serial killer in question is a mystery. All we know is that he has the initials “HP” on his cap.

    • TigerLily2012

      If anyone wants to see Coinyer101, I got him to join http://www.all-len-all.com/hello-world/#disqus_thread he’s not on now. but he did join up last night.

      • Quick Brown Dog

        I miss Doobie. :-(

        • TigerLily2012

          Me to.

    • Coppernicus

      He is still around.
      Coinyer101 is following Fido0311
      1 hour ago

      • Robin S Summertown

        I saw that he had posted once some where. But his almost complete absence has been brought up several times.

        • Coppernicus

          That is a trend when people remove their accounts and return.

          • Robin S Summertown

            Ahh, then he needs to know about this site.

    • HeyJude

      Sharyn did a spectacular job, it was her post that led me here. Hopefully others see it and do the same. Coinyer can’t be replaced….what a loss. Long live the king of doobiestan!

      • Robin S Summertown

        It appears they deleted her posts mentioning this site. Fingers crossed enough know. I might go to Twitter and post about this site and the HP refugees.

        • HeyJude

          Please do…I was monitoring the site (all I’ve done the last few days) and caught it just in time, it seems.

          • Robin S Summertown

            Me too. If I hadn’t been spying on that thread I never would have seen her post.

    • ChristyA

      Coinyer101 has been posting without a profile. Maybe he is still there.

  • HeyJude

    I’m here! Phew…so glad to be somewhere, have been a wandering Huffpost refugee since it started. Please know that your comments on HP are getting through, that’s how I found my way here. Thanks to all the HPers who stayed on that site and kept those of us who were silent in the loop. I never would have made it here if you hadn’t. Epoch Times, happy to be here with you. :-)

    • TigerLily2012

      Welcome ^_^ It looks like a flood of HPers.

      • HeyJude

        Thank you! The message is out…so yes a flood. Hopefully it will be good for everyone who was already here, too.

        • TigerLily2012

          yup

    • Robin S Summertown

      Glad you’re here. Quite a few are. But now that HP has deleted the posts telling us about this site it might slow considerably.

    • Quick Brown Dog

      Hey Jude, good for you taking a sad song and making it better :) Welcome back to where you once belonged :D

      • HeyJude

        I was your fan on HP!

    • Lindstr7

      Hey! Welcome Jude!

      • EmpressL

        You are such a cute little welcomer!

      • HeyJude

        Thanks! And for the follow…hadn’t figured that out yet…getting the hang of it.

    • SharynTG

      Do you remember how you found us? I’m trying to see if my links worked. I figured they’d delete them.

  • EmpressL

    At Huff Po I got more and better NEWS from the posters than I did from the articles!

    Thank You all!

  • Robin S Summertown

    I notice a trend here. Most of the names I’m seeing are the same ones raising caine about the new FB deal. Thanks to Sharyon you found your way.

    • SharynTG

      Thank you!!!! I’m glad you saw the links!

  • Devey Elise

    So I don’t use facebook. Nor will I ever. However I have always used my real name. And yes, that’s me in my lil pic over there <——- But I still can't post at the Huff. While I don't hide behind a made up username, I understand why many do. I tweeted Tim and he's requested that I email him. Shall I keep you all posted? Btw….hi everyone!

    • Quick Brown Dog

      Hello Devey :) Welcome to Epoch Times. Enjoy your stay, and yes, please do keep us all posted about your conversation with Tim!

      BTW, if you’re new to Disqus, the equivalent of “fan” is “Follow,” and the equivalent of “Fave” is the up arrow. To follow you just click on the username and a window should pop up. You can then click follow to make that user part of your network. I’m following all the “Huffugees” who show up here! :)

      • Devey Elise

        You popped my followers cherry! Woohoooo!!! Thanks :)

      • Robin S Summertown

        I just figured out follow. You have to put your cursor over the avatar. I was wondering how people were doing that. Jeeze.

      • Aldyth

        Thank you for mentoring us through the process!

    • Lindstr7

      Yes, please do keep us posted. Thanks.

      • Lindstr7

        ooops faved my own comment there.

  • Coppernicus

    If anyone still has contact with people on the turning the page, I believe they still get your number for those using the mobile app.

    • Robin S Summertown

      I saw something some where that said they are addressing that now. You know, fixing it so you can’t post without a FB link. I know I tried it after deleting my account at HP and it wanted a link with FB.

      • Coppernicus

        The kicker for me when I knew it was about the money was the request for anonymity page they still require a FB account. The end of the it’s all marketing analytics.

        • ChristyA

          Why would they need a Friends list, if it wasn’t to make money? I am so angry and disgusted. Gin1234

          • SharynTG

            Plus they wanted the time of your latest action there, all your likes and your posts.

            Jerks.

      • ChristyA

        That came from Tim who was part of the group who lied to us before. Funny how everywhere else can find an alternate sign in.

  • Toastman

    Hey former HuffPo people. Good to see so many faces here.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Excellent. Did you find this by the post on the only hot topic on FB these days?

      • Toastman

        Yep.

        • SharynTG

          Do you remember how? I’ve been posting links but I’m not sure if any stuck. If they are working then ill keep peppering the thread. :)

  • ChristyA

    Glad to have found this thread, and blog. I am coming from HP, too. I noticed over the weekend that there were many fewer comments than usual, and that people were leaving even before the switch to FB, I think due to the horrible moderation there. It is not enjoyable to be there at all, anymore, just due to the moderation and deleting of comments. Then they outright lied to us about grandfathering in old users. I will not be there much at all after this unless they change the FB policy and allow for other alternative sign ins. Even then, they will have to do something about their moderation before I fully return.

    • ChristyA

      I used to be Gin1234, there.

      • Robin S Summertown

        For many of us there will be no return even if they do change the policy, They have been working on destroying the community they built since the AOL thing, this was just the tipping point.

        Glad you’re here. Its a learning curve for certain but its been the only one I’ve found that seems to fit.

        • ChristyA

          I tried Raw Story, but it was very slow, and CNN (ugh, ugh).

  • Gojira

    Found my way here through a comment posted on Tim’s article. I’ve left my account open “over there” but their Facebook requirement is beyond annoying and could possibly spell trouble for some people. I refuse to open a Facebook account when their business model is based on data mining and selling the info to advertisers. Hope to meet new friends here and reconnect with others, while sharing opinions and insights with other commenters.

    • ChristyA

      So did I though a link on that thread. I am surprised that they left that up, since they have started deleting any of mine that refer to other posts or to Disgus. Gin1234

  • Aldyth

    I’m so happy to see so many folks from HP who have moved here as we abandon the sinking ship!

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/djzebbie Quick Brown Dog

      Welcome dear friend. It’s sinking fast, btw. Celine has gained quite a bit of tonnage and is starting to sing.

      • Toastman

        It is amazing to see how few comments there are on major stories at HP now. Stories that used to ring up thousands of comments now have only 200 -300. I would recommend not even going to the site. Clicks count as visits which equals traffic which equals $$$ for them. Booooo.

        • Robin S Summertown

          Funny thing is, I have such an efficient ad blocker I never had to put up with them. Not sure that earned them pennies or not but at least I didn’t have to put up with them.

    • SharynTG

      We are happy to see you!

  • ChristyA

    It would be nice to see people’s previous screen names from HP so we can recognize each other. I like those better, anyway.

    • Robin S Summertown

      I have no idea if you can alter your sign in name but I added Summertown to the end of my sig to show my name form HP. Might be worth checking out.

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/djzebbie Quick Brown Dog

      If you weren’t able to snag yours in Disqus, just mention it in a comment or put it in your profile. I’m thinking of signing my comments like this:

      Quick Brown Dog Jan-Nov 2013
      djzebbie July 2012-Dec 2013

      EDIT: I also put my HP Social Profile link in my Disqus profile. If you go to disqus.com/dashboard you can add a website in one of the fields. Just in case people want to find you on Huff if you’re still there. Mine is

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/djzebbie

      • ChristyA

        Thanks. For now, I’ll just sign mine with my old name and look into how I can add it officially.

        • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/djzebbie Quick Brown Dog

          I wasn’t sure if you saw the edit. If you’re still on Huff then add your social profile link :)

          • ChristyA

            Edit on Disgus?

    • Gojira

      You can change your screen name, I just changed mine to my old HuffPo. Just bring up your account and edit the screen name.

      • Gin1234

        Dang, that was easy. Thanks!

    • John Doe

      Not going to reuse my HP nic. Dead name remains on dead blog. Search engines do not need to link my old account with this one where I used my Real™ Name.

      When I created my HuffPoo account, I just used something easy to remember as a sign in name, not a thought out “posting identity”. Never considered it would be an identity I would use for five years and thousands of fans and tens of thousands of posts.

      I also did not usually read names of my fans, as it was so hard to actually have a conversation and get to know folks with the ever longer modcensor delays. I just fanned people when I saw a thoughtful or funny comment, or thanked them by fanning back. So I know I have seen most of you Huffpugees before, but recognize few of you by name. My bad, I should have paid more attention.

      But I have reused my old avatar. I kinda like it. I am actually in the upper left corner of the blue dot. All 0.00000000000000000000001 pixel.

      • Gin1234

        Funny. I can see you since I have X-ray eyes. Not even a clue as to your old identity?

  • DTVM

    Very well said, Zachary Stieber. I’ve been posting on HP for almost a year under the screen name of “NoManIsAnIsland” and in that time was fanned by about 548 posters up to the time of HP’s betrayal of its long-term posters.

    Within 24 hours of HP — with no prior warning — requiring that ALL users would have to
    register on FaceBook, I lost 24 fans and some posters of many years lost hundreds to a thousand very quickly.

    As I would never join FB for any reason, I certainly won’t just to comment on HP. Further, one must accept a text message on one’s cellphone to complete FB’s verification for HP. I don’t have texting service on my cellphone and would volunteer for an unnecessary root
    canal without anesthesia before I would spend a penny on texting service that I would never use again just to satisfy HP’s outrageous requirement!

    A number of my fans have pleaded with me to stay on HP, and it’s only because of them
    I didn’t leave immediately — although I can now only fave their comments and fan other
    posters. In the first day after HP’s draconian edict I fanned a number of posters lambasting
    HP’s hypocritical and tyrannical change, and 30 of them fanned me back. It was the
    greatest number of fans I’ve ever gotten in a single day.

    I’m posting here for the first time, and this seems to be a place where I may reconnect
    with my HP fans and friends — old and new — and perhaps all of us may migrate here.
    HP is already becoming an empty and decaying shell, and if it doesn’t at least allow
    a more sensible way of verification — not everyone even has a cellphone, a fact HP
    couldn’t seem to care less about — it may well find itself hoist with its own petard!

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/djzebbie Quick Brown Dog

      Hello, No Man is an Island. I was djzebbie and also Quick Brown Dog in a former life. You were on my fans/faves list :) For Disqus, the equivalent of fan is Follow (you hover the cursor over the avatar, or click the user name and then “Follow”). The equivalent of Fave is the up arrow. I am fanning all our dearly exiled Huffugees and you’re on my list again :)

      • DTVM

        OMG, djzebbie! I can hardly believe this: I saw your reply come up just
        as I was posting my edited comment! I don’t know how you saw it so quickly,
        but perhaps you saw it just as it came up before I clicked edit. And isn’t
        it great how easy it is to edit here and not have to wait eons for a post to
        appear — or be disappeared by ill-tempered and ideologically-driven so-
        called “moderators” — HP’s euphemism for censors!

        You didn’t have to tell me who you are because I remember you not only
        as one of my newest fans but also as an astute poster and one I would hate
        to lose contact with.

        Thanks for telling me how to Follow on “EPOCH TIMES” I just clicked your
        avatar and I’m glad you’re my first HP fan and friend to follow here.

        Just now, less than 10 minutes after my post appeared, 7 people have
        clicked the up arrow, and 2 more people have replied to me. It’s already
        starting to feel like home here now, and I can’t wait to see who else has
        replied to me!

        Great to see you here, and I hope we talk again soon. As you can tell
        from my post, I haven’t been able to make a single comment on HP
        since our betrayers silenced me and thousands of others. I almost
        feel as if I’ve had laryngitis and finally got my voice back again. Cheers!

    • Robin S Summertown

      Agree with everything you said. Its been happening since the AOL change and we are witnessing the petard event now.

      • DTVM

        Thank you, Robin. I’m somewhat averse to being in the vicinity of a
        grenade explosion. If HP destroys itself I won’t go with them, and
        I’m afraid it will be only well-deserved poetic justice.

        I had a great time on HP for 11 months and may never be able to
        communicate with many of my fans and friends again, but if HP is
        determined to commit website suicide, there is nothing we can do
        to stop it. Goodness knows, we’ve given them enough advice and
        told them how upset we were with them, but in their arrogance they
        ignored us almost without exception.

        • Robin S Summertown

          I’ve been there since 09 so I’ve had a chance to see the wrong turns and dumb choices they made at HP.

          One thing is to post on other public forums, like Twitter, about this site. It just might give them an idea where everyone is. I kept checking Twitter but it was the post on HP that led me here.

    • Coppernicus

      If you want to you can get txt’s via the web. Of course by the time you comply with the FB requirement you’ve joined several other services just to jump through the hoops.
      The site for online txts is on Tim’s twitter feed.

      • DTVM

        Thanks for the information, Coppernicus, it was very kind of you to tell me.
        But if I can say this without appearing to look a gift horse in the mouth, I’ve
        read numerous comments on HP from people who are already regretting verifying on FB as they almost immediately began to get unwelcome messages on their FB accounts — although they were told it wouldn’t happen.

        A number of them have closed their FB accounts and dropped the perfidious HP for good.

        • Coppernicus

          No worries, I just wanted you to have the information just in case.

        • Gin1234

          I got a closed FB page just for HP which I regretted immediately, because I refuse to use it for anything if they are going to collect data from it. The first night after that I got the first spam/sales call on my cell, I have ever gotten. May be a coincidence, but it makes me suspicious. Can’t undo it now, because i am sure that FB has it saved, even if I change it there.

          • Coppernicus

            You number is theirs for life. ForrestGrump started posting why giving out your number is really bad 3 of 4 made through.

          • Gin1234

            I know. I did it on the spur of the moment, and regret it, now. If I create a new one at all for just a small number of friends, I will have to try the way Forrest said to do it.

  • CatrionaMacA

    Hi everyone,

    Catriona here, another former Huffpooster who doesn’t do Farcebook, and has no intention of setting up a FB account.

    I deleted my HP account as soon as I saw this message from HP / FB / AOL:
    “The Huffington Post will receive the following info: your public profile, friend list, email address, News Feed, birthday, interests, current city, personal description and likes.”

    What kind of person would sell out the privacy of their friends and family?

    None of this surprises me. I remember when AOL bought Compuserve, and proceeded to destroy that great online community. Why would I think that AOL would behave differently now that they have got their claws into HP?

    Since the sale I’ve noticed that HP was becoming saturated with ‘side-boob’ stories along with flashy pieces about celebrities, and mindless ‘lists’ posing as articles. The same thing happened when AOL bought Compuserve.

    G’bye, HP.

    • Gojira

      There was certainly a drop off in the quality of writing when AOL took over.

      • CatrionaMacA

        Indeed. I also noticed that many new forum members had the literacy level of high school dropouts.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        It’s come to look like a Ringling Brothers Circus flyer.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Exactly. They probably thought I was a crank I complained so often about some of the changes that affected my use on the internet. There bandwidth sucking flash crap, the three headed dog in a bottle stories. That was the beginning of the end for HP.

      • Toastman

        If you ever want to kill off those nasty flash/auto start ads Google up “Flash Block”. There are applications for every browser that stops those things cold

        • Robin S Summertown

          I was doing something today and learned about that. I had blocked everything on HP to stop it happening. NO ads, no pics, no auto playing.

      • CatrionaMacA

        Oh aye. But the kind of people those stories draw are the kind of people who are easily manipulated, and these are the people who generate income… even as the community begins to die off.

        • Robin S Summertown

          They are also the ones that post the most awful things and get away with it.

          • CatrionaMacA

            Yes indeed.

          • CatrionaMacA

            I noticed that too.

      • CatrionaMacA

        “They probably thought I was a crank….”

        You write that as if it’s a bad thing.

        Cate, crank extraordinaire ;)

    • Canukistani

      You’re absolutely right. Once upon a time, I remember HP being a good place to hang your hat, but it hasn’t been thqat way for awhile now. I miss the way it used to be, but not the beast that it’s become.

      • Robin S Summertown

        Beast is an accurate description. One that would not be welcomed in many homes.

      • CatrionaMacA

        HP has been getting worse and worse for a long time. Many of the incoming crowd of forum members that begin joining HP after AOL took over write as if they have the IQ of a turnip.

        • Canukistani

          Yeah, you’ll get no argument from me on that. I remember a time on HP when we could respectfully disagree and have reasoned arguments. I changed my opinion on a number of issues as a result of some of those discussions and I know I persuaded a few other that I was right sometimes as well. Those days are long gone.

          In retrospect, this may be a good thing. I know we HP refugees will probably get down to squabbling here or elsewhere after we have a chance to settle in a bit but, after going through something like this together, hopefully it’ll be with a more respectful tone and a better sense of appreciation for those we’re debating with.

          • CatrionaMacA

            Did you click around to the point where HP / AOL / FB opened a window with this message?

            “The Huffington Post will receive the following info: your public profile, friend list, email address, News Feed, birthday, interests, current city, personal description and likes.”

            It’s clear to me that the tone of the comments had nothing to do with HP’s decision. This is a money-making scheme, one where through the Facebook link they can harvest a full profile of each HP member, even down to the member’s phone number, personal info, and all the member’s friends.

            Link all this personal data to the opinions the person expresses on HP, and they have a database of valuable information, information which they can sell to anyone they choose.

          • Canukistani

            No no. I didn’t mean to suggest that there was any truth to HP’s story of why they did what they did. They clearly had no justification for it and I never meant to say they did.

            I was just saying that I remember when HP was a much better place and that even when we get back to debating and disagreeing about the things we’ll debate and disagree on I hope that this experience we’ve gone through together will help us to do it with a better appreciation of each other. Sorry if you took anything other than that from what i said.

          • CatrionaMacA

            Dinna fash yersel. (That’s Scots for ‘No bother’.

            I doubt that anyone fully understands the HP / AOL / FB strategy. I find it impossible to believe that they can be so stupid.

        • TigerLily2012

          Lol why do you gotta insult turnips like that?

          • CatrionaMacA

            Oops… sorreeee. ;)

      • SharynTG

        I signed up there in ’11 and there was never any problem at all until about two months ago when they started messing with their comment formats. And now? Ha ha, it’s SO bad. If you’re in mobile you can only see and read ONE comment at a time then you have to scroll sideways. It angered me it was so slow. That killed it got me. That, plus the demand to obey Facebook.

        • Canukistani

          I signed up in … oh, I think it was about ’05 or ’06 and it was a terrific place to be then. Unfortunately, they began to censor anything I had to say that might be construed as opposing any policy of the Israeli government so I took exception to that and their heavy-handed censorship and let my account be dormant for a few years.

          I returned earlier this year and was just beginning to think that maybe it was time to settle in again. There were more trolls and many of the users seemed less informed, and less courteous than I was accustomed to but it was still, just, acceptable. And then they droppped this on us. This time I closed my account and have no plans to return.

          As I’ve said elsewhere, they’ve made HP into a Facebook app. Facebook! Known as the most miserable, the most untrustworthy of the data aggregator/thieves! This is their benchmark? Ridiculous if not a step beyond. My career has been in data security, I understand these issues, believe me.

          They’ll never get me to sign up for Facebook. Nor will they get me to use my real name. Nor will they get me to believe they care about their user community after this. They may succeed or they may fail, but they’ll do it without me either way.

          • Sharyn G.

            I am so very glad you’re here. ;)

    • Gin1234

      Did you notice that after the August thread about the upcoming changes, where they promised old users they could keep their screen names, the side boob stories stopped? In that thread, people lambasted them for the trash like that, and it changed.

      • Robin S Summertown

        I have the page up that is the only popular one at the moment and on the side panel the header asks: smallest underwear in the world? With the NSFW warning on it. So from side boob to men’s crotches.

        • Gin1234

          LOL. Well at least they are focusing on men for once. It’s only fair.

        • Lindstr7

          Good lord. that’s hilarious

        • CatrionaMacA

          “smallest underwear in the world?”

          Now I know what to get my husband for Christmas. Just the thing for a middle-aged biochemist. ;)

      • CatrionaMacA

        It did change… It went from from side-boob stories to Miley Cyrus (whoever she is), twerking, even more Kardooshians, and Lists, Lists, Lists.

        • TigerLily2012

          I seriously don’t get what the big deal about Miley is. She’s hardly the first young woman (or even former Disney Star) to prance around in a risky manner.

          • Lindstr7

            It sells. She is a commodity.

          • TigerLily2012

            I know but the people who act so traumatized by it, I”m like wtf…

          • Lindstr7

            lol. I guess people just need a symbol of the declining values in society today. So, they (the xtian RW mainly) focus on someone they used to let their kids watch on the teevee. What’s more titillating than a Disney princess reaching puberty lol. (eww, I know though).

          • SharynTG

            Personally I couldn’t care less about the nudity, it’s what she says in interviews. The vast hypocrite and ignorant void in her head. She’s said some things so arrogant I’ve only heard worse from Kanye.

          • CatrionaMacA

            I don’t know who she is. I know nothing about celebrities, and their activities don’t interest me.

            Admittedly, I am a geek. Furthermore, I live in Scotland, where we have our own freaks.

            (I live in Scotland… where it’s 4:27am. I have to be up in two hours….. Sae g’nicht tae ye a.)

        • SharynTG

          Too much Miley Cyrus for me.

          • CatrionaMacA

            Wot’s a Miley Cyrus?

          • Sharyn G.

            Wish I didn’t know. Myself and all the other (entire life) short-hairs that are tired of her taking our claim to fame and destroying it.

    • SharynTG

      Good for you, join us Huffpugees here. Huffpo is the new Gestapo. I can’t believe they basically ordered its own guests to submit to Facebook. That’s pathetic. FB is a publicly traded company! How dumb did they think we are? Wow. It really surprised me.

      • CatrionaMacA

        Well, with all the peeps leaving there will be fewer eyes eyeballing their adverts. Perhaps HP wanted to clear out everybody with an IQ in the triple digits.

        • Sharyn G.

          Yes. They should start asking for scanned copies of all college degrees in order to comment, also. As if that would help.

    • Cynth

      And hello, Catriona. Glad you landed here!

      • CatrionaMacA

        Hey there, Cynth! Good to see you too. I wonder where the HP gang will migrate to.

        I have this image… We’re in a scene, like a scene from the Grapes of Wrath. All of us Migrant Huffposters, evicted from our virtual home by greedy money people. We’re left wandering, each of us clutching our laptops and tablets as our dusty old 1930s cars rattle across the dustbowl of cyberspace, looking for the Promised Land. (I can almost hear the tinkle of Woody Guthrie’s guitar, and the whine of his voice.)

        • Cynth

          It seems there is a diaspora, but we’re finding each other. And there sure is plenty of wrath, defiance, and even some good humor as we find new homes to settle into. I’m glad that my earlier good-byes in August weren’t final with some of my HP friends. :-)

          • CatrionaMacA

            I have left some friends behind, one of whom begged me not to leave about a week ago. I had been contemplating leaving due to the kludgy ‘conversation’ format. I wonder whether we’ll ever catch up with each other.

          • Cynth

            I understand and I miss and wonder about some people, as well. It seems some people here are helping those who have remained there connect with Huffugees. Perhaps you can enlist their help?

    • DTVM

      Hi, Cate — NoManIsAnIsland here, and what a wonderful surprise it is to
      see you here! I don’t mind saying you rank very high in the top 10 friends
      and fans I would have missed most when I must inevitably tell HP “Goodbye,
      and DO let the door hit you on the way out.”

      But as I have literally hundreds of posts in my notifications I don’t want to lose — including many of yours — I’ll have to print them out (I guess) before I delete my
      HP account.

      I don’t know if you’ve seen it here, but in one of my earliest posts on “EPOC
      TIMES” tonight I wrote that I would volunteer to have an unnecessary root canal
      without anesthesia before I would join FB for any reason whatever.

      See you later, Cate. Cheers!

      • CatrionaMacA

        It’s great to see you too. I’d been wondering where you’d gone.

        Good thinking wrt your account! I should have thought to print out my message file before deleting my account. I’ll miss many of the comments people wrote to me.

        “I wrote that I would volunteer to have an unnecessary root canal without anesthesia before I would join FB for any reason whatever.”

        Sensible.

        I’m off to see my family in France over Christmas, so my participation will be rather spotty over the next few weeks.

        HAPPY HOLIDAYS…. ;)

        • DTVM

          I knew you’d be leaving; and don’t ask me why as I couldn’t
          say, but my intuition told me we were likely to get back in
          touch soon.

          To my surprise, I’ve reconnected and connected with 18
          mostly old HP, but also some new, friends here in just 2
          days!

          Have a great time in France, and HAPPY HOLIDAYS to
          you and your family from Glasgow to France and even to
          the blighted U.S. — if you still have any family here! ;)

          NoManIsAnIsland

  • SmotPoker

    We got a live one going on a PlanetPOV if anyone is interested http://planetpov.com/live-events/vox-populi/ A big topic tonight will be the HP suicide. See you there.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Cool, if I can tear myself away from here I’ll check it out.

      • Robin S Summertown

        Got it open in a new window. Dang, I’m going to get so confused on where I’m at and who I’m posting on. Already screwed up once and tried to post on the 900 plus HP post.

        • SharynTG

          If you can dont forget to leave this link there for Huffpugees to follow.

    • Lindstr7

      Thanks for the heads up.

    • Guest

      Still can’t log in at POV. I tried registering under two different emails and each time I’m getting “email already registered” (but i didn’t register…argh!) Any ideas?

      • SharynTG

        What do you mean POV!? You mean disqus?

      • Cynth

        I had the same problem and emailed them. They got it fixed right away. Good luck!

    • Robin S Summertown

      So my login was denied. I guess they didn’t want us there or didn’t like that I dropped your name.

      • Lindstr7

        denied?

        • Robin S Summertown

          Yep.

  • Toastman

    I had a bogus FB profile I use to comment on other sites so the new HP requirement didn’t really affect me. I left because they sold us out. The almighty buck will sink HP. Short term gain, long time loss. Fools.

    • Robin S Summertown

      That’s the way I feel too. And I feel bad for those too dumb to realize that.

      • SharynTG

        The people who took the commands of the Master, they are sheep who think themselves free.

    • DTVM

      Spot on, Toastman. And not only fools but arrogant and lying hypocrites who
      could not have cared less about the thousands of passionate posters who
      made the site what it became for a brief shining hour.

      Let’s see how cocky they are when they end up in the dustbin of selfdestruction.

    • Lindstr7

      Fools gold.

  • LaFemmeNikitty

    Have they made the micro-bio inaccessible to subscribers who have not yet succumbed to the fb edict? I’m trying to change mine and can’t find the “bio” section of my “edit profile” page.

    • Classical_Gas

      Hi, Nikitty. I had to go to my profile/comments/permalink to a comment on a thread – and edit it from there.

      Or from the comment box at the top of an article…

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Thanks! I just found it. Hope they don’t delete it.

    • Robin S Summertown

      I would say yes since they explicitly said you could only fan or fave.

  • HarukoHaruhara

    I can only hope that this will hurt their bottom line so much in the long run, they’ll have to rescind it. It’s a hope, not a prediction. You look at the commenting numbers on their stories and it’s hurting them big time … in the short term.

    Remember their bloody disastrous community moderation? That had to dump that when it didn’t work.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Its still not working. Now their moderators block even the most benign comments.

      • HarukoHaruhara

        I meant the community moderators. It simply served to turn moderators into targets, and then hardly any community moderators really wanted to play hall monitor.

        • Robin S Summertown

          I did notice that there was some very explosive stuff hanging around. And then when one was reported for abuse they ignored it.

          • DTVM

            You can say that again, Robin. I don’t know how many racist
            and treasonous posts I flagged for abuse that were never taken
            down.

            One of them was a racist insult to President Obama that came close
            to a threat which should have been taken down quickly and reported to the proper authorities. But as far as I know, and I checked for several
            days, it was never removed.

            And this is just one of the worst examples.

        • Gin1234

          It did, but they got rid of the program but not the title so that mods are still a target to this day. They can make all those changes, but not remove the moderator title? Just ridiculous. I was one, and still take abuse for it.

    • Gin1234

      Until they dump their strict moderation and bogus deletions, they will still be hurting.

      • DTVM

        Hi, Gin. A few days before HP rang their iron curtain down, I posted
        a comment that was deleted the instant it appeared — I had never seen
        that happen before.

        In it I had used the phrase “whacko Libertarians” and realized instantly
        that had caused it to be censored. Assuming it was censorship by
        a robot computer program, I edited the probable offending phrase to
        “w.h.a.c.k.o Libertarians,” posted it again, and it came up and stayed.

        A site that employs such draconian censorship doesn’t deserve the
        patronage of intelligent people, in my opinion, and if HP doesn’t change
        in many ways and do it soon, I will just have to tell it “Adios.”

        • Gin1234

          Hi DT/No Man, I am going to have to relearn people now under a new identity, but I had that happen quite a few times on Rush Limbaugh threads. For some reason they are afraid of certain people getting criticized and always protect Rush. Then maybe they shouldn’t set up an article about them in the first place. The especially ridiculous thing was how the names of people, especially politicians cannot be written. The last presidential campaign was bad. I used to refer to RickSanctimoniousorum, in order to talk about him, but they won’t even let that through now.

          • Lindstr7

            That’s just plain weird. I’d be curious to know who the operating officers are for AOL and their HP division. Who they’ve contributed to politically and their cell phone numbers (just for verification of course!) oh, And their facebook account page. After all, what do they have to hide?!

          • Gin1234

            There is a whole other world going on behind the scenes at HP. But of all of them, rick was the hardest to talk about. That is even though the blog itself posted a thread about his google problem in the upcoming (previous) election. It is just plain weird.

          • epazote

            AOLhuff-poop was a proud co-sponsor of the 2012 GOPTP annual conference. Keynote speaker ? Peter Brimelow, founder of white nationalist group VDARE. The topic ? “The failure of multiculturalism”
            He, and representatives of like minded hate groups spoke to the audience, held workshops, and handed out printed materials.
            source; Rightwingwatch.org

          • Lindstr7

            What the what!? Thank you so much for that. How did we not see this coming? I blame myself for being lazy.

          • epazote

            I learned of it in the Spring 2012. By then, I was very active on the murder of Trayvon Martin articles. That was like a slog through stormfront or any number of white *supremacy* sites.

        • TigerLily2012

          Really, whacko is such a mild term. You were being too generous.

          • DTVM

            You’re right, TigerLily. LOL, and it’s a fair cop! But in the 11 months I posted actively on HP (from January, 2013 until HP’s recent self-immolation) I had to gradually look for ways to get my ideas across while at the same time toning my adjectives down to
            avoid deletion.

            For at least the first several months I was surprised to learn
            that my steadily increasing number of fans and friends (a peak
            of 548 before the debacle) were very bitter about how many of
            their very civil posts never made it to the board.

            I must have posted at least several hundred comments before
            the first one didn’t make it. And out of more than 5,000 posts
            in all, I think all but probably no more than 50-100 failed to appear.

            But even though this is my first experience with “EPOCH TIMES,”
            I doubt a single one of mine would have been censored here.

            It’s not my fault that many right wing reactionaries — and not
            just the Republican ones — are mentally unhinged, and only
            their fellow inhabitants of their paranoid Cloud Cuckoo Land
            would try to keep someone from pointing that out.

            Great to talk with you here, and if this site is as open and
            welcoming as it appears so far, I hope to talk with you much
            more. Cheers!

        • geezer 56

          As far as I can tell, moderation on HP is completely random. I lost my temper once with someone and wrote a one-word reply beginning with “horse,” and to my shock it actually went through. The thing is, you just never knew. Felt like some kind of twisted psychological experiment in random feedback.

          • Lindstr7

            horse…..pucky?

          • geezer 56

            Yeah…that’s it! ;) But seriously, I actually didn’t expect it to go through. I thought for certain it would never pass whatever automated filter they use.

          • John Doe

            On the subject of HP moderation. Back when they had the old posting format, once in a while there would be an unmoderated thread where comments posted instantly. Usually on a non controversial topic, like over in the Science section on a minor little read story about finding dino bones or a new comet, where only 10 well behaved science geeks commented and there was no inflammatory political name calling likely in the comments.

            I tested there and now wish I had done a more scientific study. Even with no human moderation, I found that certain key words would send a comment to MawdCensorLand by the censor computer robot, as II long knew from comments of mine that got deleted in the political articles.

            “Palin” was an auto no no, and so was “Bristol” even when she was over 21 and making hundreds of thousands on Dancing With The So Called Pseudo Stars. Of course “abortion” was a big no no, even on an article about the subject. A few articles on HP actually had unbleeped spelled out curse words in the article, yet only sometimes could you quote the article three inches above your comment without getting censored. Go figure. Although a couple of times I used a correctly spelled profanity word and I actually got it posted.

            The one topic you could NOT mention was “$315 million.” Every time I tried to use the AH to AOL sell out figure in a comment, it got deleted. Of course, talking about the good ole 1990s was difficult, as you could never say “AOL Sucks.”

          • Gin1234

            Other words that could not pass: values, morals, Clinton, Santorum, Limbaugh.

          • Gin1234

            evil is another.

          • Jennifer Malcom

            Have you tried commenting on Yahoo lately? THey are the worst! You can’t even use the word “dirty”! It’s so stupid…

        • Nokilissa

          Last summer, on Huffpo, I had written a comment in response to an article about a model who chooses to go sans underwear all the time (in her words, she never, ever wears em’). The general tone of so many of the comments was pervy at best, and misogynistic at worst.

          Anyway, I listed a few of the reasons this seemed either fictitious for provocations sake, or, in the event she WERE telling the truth, was not a good idea. The list included the public’s reasonable expectation that certain (*ahem*) secretions would not be left on public seating, and that most women will find it necessary at certain times of the month to wear underwear, regardless of desire to “go commando”.

          I was totally censored. Kept waiting for my comment to appear both because I had spent a fair bit of time crafting it, and because I wanted to punch a hole in the cringe-worthy “sexy” commentary. And I swear to you, I sounded more like a gynecologist than anything else. Given the comments that had been allowed through, I was just befuddled mine was censored.

          That was when I started to hate Huffpo.

    • Classical_Gas

      I hope they don’t rescind this – and I doubt they will. It’s the march of the corporates, and HP just outed themselves. I will not go back there unless there’s a change of ownership and policies.

    • Canukistani

      I think it would be hard to go back there in any case, now that we know what they really think of us.

  • LaFemmeNikitty

    I’m sure if everyone who has walked does what I did with my avatar and micro bio it might send a message as strong as deleting the profile altogether. But I’m not going to say what I did. LOL. Huffpoo is probably reading these comments … we are now outspoken dissidents, the worst kind of subscribers!

    • Robin S Summertown

      And proud to of it too, since we’re standing up against abuse of power.

    • BornOkayTheFirstTime

      I had to go see what you did. It inspired me to update mine, but in a far less subtle manner.

      Update: I flipped back to my profile page to check on the update and it said “this photo is pending moderation approval”. Seriously, HPAOL? At least the update appears to have been approved.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        At first, mine showed in the profile page that it was still waiting for moderator approval. But I waited about ten minutes and then found a post I had commented on, and looked at the comment page and both the avatar and micro bio had taken root — and then checked, and it still said pending in the profile page.

    • EmpressL

      How can such a cute little kitty cause so much trouble! Careful I’m following you!

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Meow!

  • Gin1234

    When AOL bought them, the trolls came with the buy. They never acknowledged that, and never will. Instead it was the fault of everyone there. They will have to own up to their own behavior now, though, there will be no getting around it.

  • Lindstr7

    I wonder how many requests the cell phone providers are getting for new cell numbers.

  • geezer 56

    Just to show that civility is just a pipe dream on HP, despite this idiocy: I was lurking on the site the day after all this came down, and one commenter made me gasp–something to the effect that he’d like to run into a certain female U.S. senator in a dark alley. I forget his made-up name, but his avatar was Rosie O’Donnell’s head on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s shoulders. Yeah, good luck with that “civility” ruse, HP.

    • Coppernicus

      I think at the end of the day people are going to be who they are anonymity or not, online or not somethings can’t be changed.

    • Robin S Summertown

      We see the future of HP. And its not pretty.

      • Gin1234

        It’s pretty to me. In fact it’s beautiful. I want a front row seat.

        • Lindstr7

          I’ll make the popcorn. Disaster porn!

          • Nokilissa

            Pass said popcorn please.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Make me a special bowl. I need to cut down on irony.

          • Lindstr7

            Weeee! (I’m so glad I found this site.)

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Me too! It’s kind of addicting, in a way that HP never was. Thank god they don’t make me have to use FB to belong here, otherwise I would probably break down and buy a “drug dealer” cell phone just for the cause.

          • Lindstr7

            Just yesterday I was placating myself with the notion that I’ll be getting out more! and away from the computer more! Thanks HP! Now, I’m more addicted than ever (multiple sites on this disqus!). gurg.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            You should really wait until Spring to go outside. It’s too cold to be outdoors. Let me know when it’s Spring and you need a fresh excuse :)

          • Lindstr7

            a Punxsatawney Phil for the tech generation.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Yes, we need that.

        • Lindstr7

          I love the smell of HP ________ing in the morning.

        • SharynTG

          You’re here! You made it! I’m so glad!!

          • Gin1234

            Yes! Thanks to your link. I can’t believe they left that up. I tried to post to you that I was on Dis gus, too, but they would not post any of my comments. Thanks for the link.

          • Sharyn G.

            From what I can tell, they delete about 75% of what I leave. So, ill just post even more. Ill keep it up until I’m banned. I want our good people here.

          • Sharyn G.

            So strange. I’m supposedly banned, yet they kept my profile up AND all the comments that got me banned. Never heard of that. I had friends banned before and everything got zapped right away.

            I think they fear my Jedi powers.

    • TigerLily2012

      Of course, it’s only the girls he feels “brave” enough to confront in his sick fantasy.

      • geezer 56

        Oh, spot on!

        • TigerLily2012

          ;)

    • Lindstr7

      Maybe HP will call him now that they have his cell phone number.

      • geezer 56

        Or the FBI…

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Could you hand me a paper towel? Thanks. You just made me spray on the monitor.

    • DTVM

      Hi geezer. Even though I can’t post on HP any more as I wouldn’t start a FaceBook
      account for any reason, let alone just to verify my HP membership that I had been
      promised would be grandfathered in (How civil was it to betray that?) I haven’t
      deleted my account yet so I can stay in some touch with my fans and friends even
      though I can’t talk with them any more.

      I didn’t see the vile post you mention, but it doesn’t surprise me, as in my 11 months
      on HP I often saw comments that made me think I had somehow stumbled on a
      KKK or neo-Nazi site.

      The idea that HP wants to promote and encourage civility is a snare and delusion
      and no more true than HP cares a tinker’s dam about all the posters who made it
      what it is — but probably won’t be much longer!

      • Lindstr7

        Arianna Huffing n puffington about civility was the cherry on top. We’ve been hoodwinked!

      • geezer 56

        I didn’t link to FB, but I haven’t deleted my account (yet), either–I’m still using it to fave some protest comments on the “Turning the Page” article and also to keep tabs on what friends are up to, if anything. Also watching my friend count drop a little more every day. Lots of my friends haven’t posted a word since Dec. 9, including some very high-fan pundits. It’s a wasteland over there–as it certainly deserves to be.

        • psileste

          I’ve done exactly the same and I’m sure many others have as well. The exodus is far from over.

        • DTVM

          Strangely enough, geezer, the day I lost 24 fans, I picked up
          30 new ones in my fanning of some of the great posters (they
          fanned me back) blasting HP for their hypocrisy and perfidy.

  • psileste

    What’s kind of pathetically funny is that apparently, HP thought they were so successful because they are such a quality site. I went for the comments, period. I get my news elsewhere. It’s the people who interest me.

    • TigerLily2012

      Agreed. Most of the stories, only have a paragraph or less and link to another site.

      • John Doe

        Lists were bad. Autoplay videos were worse. Link articles another step down. Kardashian posts made me puke. Miley sideboob sightings were sometimes tittilating. “SHOCKING NEWS” headlines were usually not shocking or news. Uneven censhorship and comment deletion were bad. Ever longer posting times were worse. The new comment format really sucked.
        But the junior high level “fake outrage” stories really really irked me. “Famous Actress spotted in see through shirt with no Bra, and it is SOOOO terrible we have posted a picture of it. End of civilization as we know it, outrageous.” Worse than the Puritanical American view that a breast is the most terrible thing to see was the silly nature of the story. The Actress in question became famous in the first place by posing naked in Playboy with her legs spread TWENTY YEARS AGO. So effing what if she wears a shirt without a bra today. Why should AOL Huffington Post post an article saying how outraged they are and think I should feel the same way?

        • DTVM

          Hi, John Doe,

          As “NoManIsAnIsland,” I posted actively on HP for only 11 months,
          from January 2013 to the day it went back on Jimmy Soni’s word in
          August that current, legitimate non-troll members would be grand-
          fathered into the system and not be subject to a not yet undisclosed means of verification which would prove to be the envy of Joseph
          Stalin or any other dictator!

          I note and take your points of objection to HP’s increasing descent
          into tyranny and self-degradation but am a little surprised you write
          about it so mildly and with so little emotion. I, on the other hand,
          would really have let them had it and not have let them off as mildly
          as you have! (just kidding!) ;-)

          As I don’t think you even have to imagine, our level of outrage
          at HP is equivalent, and I was mildly astonished they posted a
          number of stinging rebukes I leveled at them.

          The only other websites I posted on were The New York and
          Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The New Yorker,
          Voice of America, Reuters, some PBS sites, and a few others
          I don’t remember.

          I had hopes initially that HP would equal them, and for a few
          months it was fun as I could even comment in Spanish, German,
          French, and Swahili; but when I had to start taking anti-nausea
          medication before I could go to the site, I knew the honeymoon
          was ending.

          I’ve never been so disappointed — not to mention slightly furious
          – at a website before, and it didn’t have to happen. And if the
          sanctimonious, self-righteous, arrogant, hypocritical, lying, and
          utterly self-serving powers that be at HP weren’t so venal and
          obtuse and utterly indifferent to the opinions and complaints of
          their most loyal posters, the ongoing train wreck they caused
          wouldn’t have happened.

          That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

    • Lindstr7

      They’re the best “linkers” in the biz. Hey, keep us updated on the progress of your new website.

      • psileste

        Oh, it’s not mine. Just have plans to hang out there once they get it going. :)

        • Lindstr7

          Ah okay. Does it have a name yet?

          • psileste

            They’re calling it NewCo, but that’s just a working name until they unveil the real one. I think it’s going to be the most exciting thing to happen to journalism in my lifetime. HP is particularly stupid for alienating their readers with this new media outlet on the horizon.

          • Lindstr7

            That’s so exciting! One thing i have to say is HP had a stellar commenting and social media platform. If they can duplicate that and swoop up the HP expats, they’ll do very well.

          • Lindstr7

            (sans latest changes and over lousy moderating)

    • DTVM

      Well said, psileste. There were some excellent articles, many of them from
      HP bloggers, but too many were mediocre; and it was becoming more and
      more tabloid-like every day, with the latest news about Kim Kardashian –
      whoever he or she is! ;-)

      It is the people who interest me, too, and there are many I’ll never forget
      even though we’ve never met in person and aren’t likely to.

      • Lindstr7

        Build it and they will come. Well, we came and they changed the game on us. Losers!

        • CatrionaMacA

          “Build it and they will come.”

          Break it, and they will go.

          • epazote

            Catriona, my friend, so pleased you’ve joined us here.
            I closed my “looneydoone” huff-poo account in August leaving behind some 3,000 fans, came back as “Nopales”, closed that, and returned a 3rd time as “epazote”. I will not open a Farcebook account
            Had been considering leaving the site since AOL took over…being lied to by Soni & McDonald made leaving easy. (but am unable to do anything more than deactivate the hp profile…they aren’t allowing us to leave entirely)

          • CatrionaMacA

            Loonydoone… I’m happy to see you too. It’s so nice to see on old name.

            Some of us have been through an AOL buyout before… with Compuserve. They began driving that old online community into the ground within weeks of the takeover. AOL caters to the lowest common denominator. That explains the proliferation of celebrity dross and mind-numbing lists on HP, along with the draconian moderation.

            I’ve noticed that HP accounts can’t be deleted, only deactivated. They’re not about to let their numbers drop, even if we no longer go there to read the stories… erm… adverts.

          • epazote

            Catriona,

            I hit the “yes” and “cancel” buttons 18 times (consecutively) within 2 minutes before finally getting an e-mail advising my account has been closed…of course that’s conditioned on having a verified farcebook account to reactivate it.
            No way …I’m very happy here.

      • Robin S Summertown

        Great description, tabloid like. I had also noticed the decline in the quality of the articles. Heck, even the over the top titles for an article were telling. How man times did posters call them on saying one thing in the title then reading the article and not finding anything that matched the drama of the title? I saw one just before I deleted my account.

  • Goldielocks1942

    I have no interest in becoming a FACEBOOK investment! I will close my Huff acct and go to another News page. AND I thought Huff was LIBERAL!

    • Lindstr7

      key word being “was”

  • SharynTG

    Sorry, but we all know Ariana is in her pajamas this instant reading this thread in bed with a tablet saying “uh oh…”

    She’s awoken a sleeping giant. Us.

    • Lindstr7

      She’s already made bank. But its HER name on the site d’rrrr. She will literally be booed walking down the street.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Haha. She doesn’t walk down the street. She has minions to do that for her.

        • Lindstr7

          hehe.

    • LaFemmeNikitty

      I heard she doesn’t wear pajamas to bed. She’s taken to wearing chain mail ;)

      • Lindstr7

        Lol She might want to consider keeping it on during the day. I would imagine she’ll be hearing quite a few “boos” from now on.

      • Sharyn G.

        Ugh.

        Neither do black widow spiders ;)

        • LaFemmeNikitty

          Haha.

  • psileste

    I keep trying to figure out which one is the worst: forcing users to use their real names, forcing users to go through FB, making intrusive and momentous changes with no warning, lumping these changes on top of a revamp of the comment system that is universally despised, or flat out lying to your users. Each is pretty bad on its own. Combined, it’s a no brainer to hit the road.

    • geezer 56

      You just put the whole dang mess in a nutshell! Absolutely right on. (Edit): I’d just add to your list the months of dealing with unbelievably frustrating, random, and capricious moderation.

  • Lindstr7
    • Gin1234

      Interesting, although I did not understand a word of it. Just a little scary, though.

    • LaFemmeNikitty

      Wow. Is nothing sacred? I had reservations about joining this disco, but figured it’s relatively harmless because it’s only attached to an email address. But Gravatar (should be called Grabatar) spooked me a few years ago because I had a wordpress blog and used Grab and I found my avatar showing up on things I never subscribed to. No matter how I tried, I couldn’t unlink from Grab. So I thought to just delete the blog. But to complicate matters further, I couldn’t delete it! I could only delete the content, then changed the email both were associated with to another throwaway email address. Hey Seuss.

  • Coppernicus

    The truth is I think it has absolutely nothing to do with community or comments,

    https://www.quantcast.com/huffingtonpost.com

    While comments may be near nonexistent, the numbers that matter are up.

    • Lindstr7

      Hmm….did you look at the “weekly” spread?

      • Coppernicus

        No, I looked at 6 months to compare it against august. What did the weekly show?

        • Guest

          looked like a drop towards the end but not by much

        • Lindstr7

          Ah, sorry, that was from 12/1 to 12/8 i think. doesn’t show 10th and on.

    • Gin1234

      Doesn’t show Fridays, yet. People are still looking in on it, maybe out of curiosity over all of this. With all the people who are deleting their accounts, the numbers will have to eventually go down. The fans that people have are the most frequent users of the site, and the most frequent are leaving them. I am going to have to cut back on my snooping, then.

      • Coppernicus

        Exactly. Can’t give them unique page views it just feeds their bottom line. It’s not enough to have zero comments. It’s the page views that hurt them long run.

        • Gin1234

          At the same time, people don’t go there for the news necessarily, but to read comments. I do that on other blogs. If there are dwindling comments and a lot less of them to read, their viewership will eventually go down.

    • geesepeace

      Well some of us have been checking HP too many times a day; I also will minimize it for hours while I do something else. So things like this make it look like people are spending more time on it then they really are. I seriously looked at it a lot from boredom….i have to find something else to do.

    • Devey Elise

      The numbers are up from the clicking frenzy everyone is in over not being able to post. That’s to be expected and it’ll drop off.

      • Lindstr7

        Some habits are hard to break. :/ I think deleting it from my bookmarks toolbar is a step in the right direction.

        • Devey Elise

          Huff what??? :)

      • Robin S Summertown

        With something like a 1000 pages on just the page with all the PO’d comments concerning the underhanded change that can up numbers for a bit. Now that they are so closely monitoring that page the numbers will drop like a rocket.

  • Devey Elise

    So to recap….I’m a HuffPost’er who refuses to use facebook, but ironically, uses my real name and a pic of myself as my icon. Now I can’t post at the Huff. So I tweeted Tim McDonald who asked me to email him. Here is that conversation as promised earlier:

    “On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Devey wrote:
    Hi Tim! I’m emailing you per your twitter request :)
    Devey”

    “On Friday, December 13, 2013 6:33 PM, Tim McDonald wrote:
    Hi Devey!
    Sorry, I know many of our existing community members are not on FB and
    this decision was certainly not directed at you or other community
    members who contribute to the health of the community. Arianna is
    passionate about leading the way in real name commenting and making sure
    the people are who they say (to the best we can assure) and are not
    able to easily set up multiple accounts. Facebook was the most widely
    used site that provided us with the closest thing we were looking for in
    the short term. That said, we are looking for additional methods.
    I’m not trying to force you on Facebook, but have help many of our community members set up a “locked down” account just for the purpose of authenticating their
    account on HuffPost. Let me know if I can offer any assistance in this regard.

    Tim McDonald
    Director of Community
    The Huffington Post”

    “On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Devey wrote:
    Well I have no intentions of joining facebook. In fact, I’m vehemently against facebook. So, basically, I’m out of luck then?
    Devey”

    “Tim McDonald
    To Me
    Today at 6:52 PM

    For now. I’m really hoping we can open some other options soon.

    Tim McDonald
    Director of Community
    The Huffington Post”

    So basically, I got the big eff you. Nice. I’ll be deleting my account right about……now.

    • Lindstr7

      looks like we all got the big eff u. What a load of crap. They’re STILL spinning that junk about “real name commenting.” They actually think we believe that? If so, then what’s with the cell phone business. What a bunch of hooey. Thanks for sharing.

      • Devey Elise

        I find it highly suspect that the “reason” for making people link to facebook was so that posters would be forced to use a real name. But here I am, using my real name, and it’s still a no go. Also, there was a “form” you could supposedly fill out to sidestep the facebook issue, which I filled out, and still nada. Ridiculous.

        • Lindstr7

          Yeah, I think you have to be an ex uber spy from a former soviet bloc country to post anonymously (with a name like Boris or Svetlana preferably). As if they’ll EVER see a posting under the name “anonymous” over there. Scoff.

          • Devey Elise

            It just chaps my cheeks that facebook has infiltrated this tiny portion of my life. I really, really do not like facebook. It’s like this gaping black hole.

          • Lindstr7

            I hear a large sucking sound. And its Facebook sucking up the worlds data. (the NSA of social media as another said)

          • Coppernicus

            people have shown they can game the system, first name: anony last: mous. Display first and last name please.

        • Sharyn G.

          No- you’re right. It’s about money.

          They WANT you to create a junk account, because FB NEEDS NEW BUSINESS.

          There was an article three weeks ago on huff saying their accounts were down and that they had decided to lower their age requirement to 13 to attract new accounts.

          Now suddenly FB has this deal with huff guaranteeing them new accounts or at least reactivation of old ones, thereby upping their web traffic and their bottom line to their stockholders.

          This company is just now joining the S&P 500! This is about money. They don’t care if you use an account, they just want you to make one. Higher numbers equal higher profits.

          Huff underestimated out memories. They have been writing stories about declining numbers at FB. Also, FB was hacked a week ago and account passwords were posted online.

          So, why would huff, who has been widely critical of FB on their own news site, suddenly not ask you, but DEMAND that you have a FB account to comment?

          Money. A deal was made, just in time to guarantee higher account numbers for FB since they go live on the S&P 500 December 20th.

          Coincidence? Ha!

          I myself had my FB account plugged in back in 2011. I never rely cared or used it. But ill be darned if I’m taking orders from a bunch of hypocrites who want to keep me in Plato’s Cave. It’s the height of hypocrisy- huff would be the first in line to report on this type of shady activity if it were happening on a rival news site, and we all know it.

          There’s a couple places where many of us have gathered, if you want to k ow where just ask . I put it down before and people found us , but then the comments were deleted by HP, go figure.

          • John Doe

            Remove the extra space before com.

            LOL September 20, 2013. Timely article.

            http://www.huffingtonpost. com/2013/09/20/quitting-facebook_n_3962473.html

          • Sharyn G.

            Excellent !! How the heck did they ever think we’d forget all the stories they wrote that covered FB in a negative light? I can’t fathom that.

      • BornOkayTheFirstTime

        I’m thoroughly convinced the anti-anonymity claim is a sham. I’ve been on the internet in discussion forums for 20 years, most of that anonymous, and I’ve never felt utterly disrespected and disenfranchised until this week. Thanks again, HPAOL.

    • Coppernicus

      A quick one, folks.

      An excerpt from the 1994 Vanity Faire article of Arianna and Michael Huffington written by Maureen Orth, the late Tim Russert’s wife:

      “Arianna’s Virtual Candidate”http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/1994/11/huffington-199411?printable=true

      ““There are two schools of thought about Arianna,” says Mort Janklow, her U.S. agent on the Picasso book. “One is that it’s all deliberate and calculated and she’s ruthless. The other is that she really convinces herself beforehand. She sells herself first.” There is definitely a spacey quality to both Huffingtons, which allows them to go after what they want unaffected by the impressions they leave behind. The pervasive sense is that everyone and everything is “of use”: the Huffingtons schmooze you and then they use you.”

      Credit to Mr.Hoodoo

      • Lindstr7

        How apropo. Thanks.

      • Devey Elise

        I’m not going subscribe to smearing Adriana on a personal level because frankly I don’t care about it that much. It’s her site and she can do what she wants with it. And all that shmoozing and using junk describes thousands of people, frankly. I may not like it, but that’s the reality of it all really. Sad.

        • Lindstr7

          I think the point here is that she is the figurehead of HP so she has taken a gamble attaching her name to this enterprise especially after the sale to AOL and likely knowing the plans to marry up with FB all along. As HP has a reputation as a left leaning site, she had a lot of people fooled that she had become more liberal (after years of being an outspoken republican) and many embraced her as a matriarchal figurehead. The latest move is the true reveal of her character and it reveals that she has not changed her stripes one bit. Good riddance to Huffington Post and its chameleon-like figurehead.

          • Devey Elise

            I hear ya. Still, her bad behaviour is not unique lol

          • Lindstr7

            God no! Indeed it’s become the norm for “how to succeed in business and join the 1%” There is a sociopathic element at work in a lot of these folks.

          • Devey Elise

            Yes. It’s called Money. Too bad it’s not edible and that you can’t take it with you.

          • Lindstr7

            Share it fairly but don’t take a slice of my pie!

  • Vega

    I stand corrected! I posted earlier that I was able to delete my HP account yesterday. Well I just got an email from a friend who is still on HP telling me my posts are still on the boards. My profile is gone, but it seems all my activity remains in the threads.

    I just went to HP, clicked on logon entered username and password, and was back, no profile, but 136 notifications waiting.

    It looks like HP does not want to let go of accounts, and this p’s me off to no end. I’ve never had this happen anywhere else.

    does anyone know how to permanently get rid of an HP account?

    • Lindstr7

      Sigh….where’s Anonymous when you need them.

    • geesepeace

      I’ve deleted my account a number of times…it is always there if you reopen your account with the same username and password. The last time before deleting my account I unlinked my HP account to yahoo then deleted my account. I think it might be like facebook….you really don’t delete but deactivate it.

      • Devey Elise

        I unlinked mine from my twitter before deleting my account. But I doubt my comments went away. Don’t care.

    • Devey Elise

      The posted comments probably won’t go away because it makes conversations nonsensical, especially if their in threads with other people. They would have to comb through every single comment every single deleted account has ever made, etc.

      • Coppernicus

        I think it is also like any other social website, what the user contributes becomes their property.

      • Vega

        that I understand, but why would the “remove my account and comments” be there then, and why would a removed account receive 136 notifications?

        anyway, if HP wants to keep my account active, fine, I changed my micro-bio to “http://www.theepochtimes.com”, and my avatar to a pic they likely won’t like.

        • Lindstr7

          brilliant!

        • Devey Elise

          hahahahahhahhaaaa!!!!

        • Robin S Summertown

          Love it, now I need to go see if I can still login and do the same.

        • Vega

          “http://www.theepochtimes.com” was rejected. trying “theepochtimes*com”

  • ben edat

    How about this — the Koch brothers paid off AOL to do this with the purpose of putting Huffington out of business.

    • Lindstr7

      Sounds plausible to me.

  • Devey Elise

    How awesome is it the these Epoch Times folks just let us come over here and rag about HuffPost?! Gawd I love freedom of speech. Feels good…like comfy pjs.

    • Lindstr7

      It is comforting to know that the 1st amendment is still alive despite the gargantuan efforts being made to thwart it.

      • SmotPoker

        Linda, did you get your PPOV login in issued fixed?

        • Lindstr7

          Yes I finally did, thanks! Left shortly after the live session started though. Was there a good showing?

          • SmotPoker

            Yeah, it was a fun time, still going on although only a few people in it. You were a topic of discussion…

          • Lindstr7

            Moi? huh? whaatdtheysay? I didn’t do it!

          • SmotPoker
          • SmotPoker

            You came up when I saw your earlier post stating that you couldn’t get in. I was alerting them, then I saw that you did.

    • Coppernicus

      Feels good to see comments posted.

      • LaFemmeNikitty

        Have you noticed the size isn’t limited like HP was? I’m just going to blather on to make this point. At HP, there were many threads of a serious nature and I would go out of my way to employ the use of quotes from other sources to support my point of view. After spending what … a half hour or so … to craft what (only I) would consider a beautiful post to hit the “submit” button to discover it spit back to me a message saying “Your post is 156 words too long”. So I would break out the most extraneous of commentary and leave mere bare bones, to receive the message that “Your post is 138 words too long”. And I’d be looking at it going … WTF? The whole post isn’t even 138 words! But I would again work with a paring knife, to be left with the words “I” and “talk” and “too much” — only to be reminded AGAIN that my post exceeded the word allowance by 3 words. So I would delete everything, and type one word, three letters long … “WTF” … at last … it finally made the cut! Uh oh… no, it didn’t. It didn’t fit the community standards. After getting 35 “faves” on it, I would receive in my notification box lots of empty avatar faces and no thread attached to it. That’s how I knew that my “WTF” post was gone.

        All of this just to remind you that you felt good before you read this, and you might still feel okay now, but … you can tell me in however many words you want to, exactly how you feel! Without being told you’ve used too many words, and without it disappearing fifteen minutes later! Now I’m going to hit the “send” button and see what happens …..

        • Coppernicus

          That is sheer genius and a post of beauty.

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            It’s still there! Whaddaya know … *smile*

        • Lindstr7

          hah! “I” “talk” “too much”

          Ever hit the “Preview comment” button so you can kind of stand back and look at your work, decide to rearrange a few things and hit the “delete” button thinking you’re backspacing and Poof! everything gone. Takes you back a page. Grrrr that happened to me so many times!

          • LaFemmeNikitty

            Haha. Oh I mean, that is a darn shame. OMG the backspace key is evil with HP … many a post has (luckily for the readers) vaporized by hitting that key when trying to carve out a prolific piece.

          • BornOkayTheFirstTime

            Thank stupid browser technology for that. If the cursor is focused in a
            form field, the backspace button backspaces text. If the focus is on
            the main body, most browsers interpret it as a “go back one page”
            command. Can happen here too apparently (just tested to be sure).

            When I would write longer comments, I wouldn’t use the comment box in HP to compose. I’d write in a text editor then paste the work over to HP when I was done. After a while, I started doing that even on shorter comments just in case they magically went “poof” in the abysmal moderation system. As a result, I have a backlog of comments I’ve written but nobody ever got to read.

          • John Doe

            Yes I learned long ago to compose any comment longer than one line in Word, then paste. That way if it does not post right I have it saved and can try again. Also if a mod deletes it I can repost it again on the same thread 12 hours later and perhaps a different mod might let it post.

        • Jennifer Malcom

          That’s funny…i didn’t even get the message of how long it was, just that there was a limit.

        • Sharyn G.

          Everything is better than huff. No censorship.

          • John Doe

            And yet, knock wood, I have not seen a single post here telling me I can make $6487 a week letting my computer stuff envelopes at home, and I have not seen a single tro!! posting CONservative radio talking point lies. Yet HuffPoo claims it is impossible.

          • Sharyn G.

            Ha, you are so right. But reasoning with them is like trying to nail a piece of Jell-O to the wall.

        • Robin S Summertown

          Or you got the piece all tidy by their arbitrary length requirements, you hit enter and up pops “this comment is pending blah, blah, blah” never to the see the light of day again.

          • Nokilissa

            Happened over and over. I would painstakingly edit… chopping off piece after piece I felt could possibly be spared to get it down to acceptable size and then… nothing.

            AAAAaaaaaargh! The thought bubble attached to my head would nearly explode. And I would slowly, sllllowly back away from the keyboard.

          • Robin S Summertown

            OMG!!! I can picture that and its scary and funny all at the same time.

        • Canukistani

          Happened to me more than once too and then, even if it did eventually appear it had been held in limbo for a day or so until it was no longer relevant or interesting even to me. I’ll not miss that a bit.

        • Nokilissa

          THIS! Yup. It was source of endless anxiety for me – of my own narcissism and need to “educate”. Sigh.

        • JCW43

          Hey NiKitty, nice to see you here! I’ts very liberating being out from under the tyranny of HP, isn’t it.Thanks to Sharyn, I’m sure more and more familiar faces will pop up. It’s only just begun!

        • DTVM

          I agree with you completely, LaFemmeNikitty, and there were a
          number of times I had to split my comments into Part 1, Part 2,
          and even a Part 3 once to say everything I wanted to!

          Isn’t it great here! I just hope it stays this way; for after having to
          jump through hoops just to post on HP, this seems almost too good
          to be true!

      • Sharyn G.

        And so quickly!

      • DTVM

        You can say that again. Just about 2 weeks ago I tried to post a response
        to a friend thanking him for advice on how to close a cereal box (prompted
        by an HP video on how to wrap ear bud cords without using a tie), and
        apparently it was found to be so controversial (!) it never appeared!

    • Sharyn G.

      Spread the word. They are grateful and welcoming. I’m over at huffpo leaving the link to get here, but most of my comments are censored as soon as I post them and people need to know wherever are. Thanks.

  • Lindstr7

    “……if you are a whistleblower, or fear harassment, or any other reason —
    you can apply for the right to comment anonymously by filling out this form.”

    Yeah, every whistleblower’s first thought is…..I’ll go make a comment on HP! I’ll blow the whistle on em good! (anonymously of course)

    • Coppernicus

      Right after you provide your FB account, which they probably reply back with could you also verify that with a phone number that receives txts.

      • Lindstr7

        Awesome, now we know where to find you…mwahaha.

      • Lindstr7

        Seriously, you bring up a good point. Do they really think a “whistleblower” is going to give them their cell phone number, because you know they’re going to want SOME kind of verification and won’t just take their word for it. “Hello, my nyame ees Svetlana. I yam close personal friend to Vladamir P. (not mentioning any names, we just go with “P” okay? I like to blow vhistle now. I am thank you in advance, much love Svetlana” ??

        • Coppernicus

          Lucky for us they are an aggregator of the news because I don’t know what protecting their source would mean if they were actually in the journalism business.
          Thanks for whistle blowing we still need a verified FB account from you so your employer can track you down.
          It’s their site, I get that. But I’ve never felt so dirty by the overt lies they put forth. Let me make my own decision, call a spade a spade and tell me you’ve joined the corporateocracy but don’t feed me a veiled lie of community and we care.

          • Lindstr7

            It’s so pathetically transparent. Only the most gullible would believe it. I got a bridge I can sell ya….!

          • S_herbert

            I got a couple badges I will sell anyone : ) We don’t need no stinkin’ badges, YAY!

          • Jennifer Malcom

            At least we can be grateful they didn’t automatically link us thru FB…

          • Robin S Summertown

            They did let you choose, bend over or leave. The smart ones left.

          • DTVM

            Right on, Coppernicus, and a lie so thinly veiled it’s transparent!

  • Coppernicus

    I’m feeling like such an old timer but, I wonder what BillLoney would have thought of all this. I know not everyone got along with him but I never had problems.

    • fumes

      love BillLooney. and you can’t be older than me can you (64)?

      • Coppernicus

        On the contrary I’m quite young, not even forty yet. I was using old timer like back in the early days before things really fell apart. Honestly I haven’t been very active at HP since the merger.
        Bill was great.

        • fumes

          WOW. i’m so old i can’t remember being that young. (it was before you were born). say i may know your parents!

          • Coppernicus

            It is possible, you would have to be from MN and you would have to be a nurse or known them on or before your early 50s as they have both passed.

          • fumes

            i was just kidding. you’re too young to have lost your folks. sorry about that. never been to MN anyway. my dad would have been 100 this year and my mom just passed in 2011 at 92. and i’m waay too young to have lost a wife. she passed seven years ago after a sixteen year battle with multiple sclerosis. c’est la vie

  • SWjr

    I haven’t canceled my HP account yet, but I’m close. I’ve lost almost 200 fans so far, but I am glad I checked in there tonight and found the link to here, where free speech still exists.

    • Lindstr7

      Nice to have you here. Hope you stick around. Lots and lots of HP expats here.

    • Sharyn G.

      I’m sure ill be banned any hour now. I’m on that one thread peppering it with links to here. I hope that’s how you found us. Spread the link further if you can. Thanks and welcome.

      • SWjr

        Thanks! And thanks for doing that. I’ll try spreading it too.

        • Sharyn G.

          Yeah! Get that link in there. You may get nasty responses from a few obedient sheep, but oh well.

      • Vega

        since they are not deleting accounts, change your bio to “go to theepochtimes” it seems acceptable.

        • Sharyn G.

          That’s a great idea. I can sneak the link in there. Good work.

  • Coppernicus

    I really wish my micro bio was big enough to fit this or I post this as parting,
    “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”

  • Rick Urban

    Amazing, I think there are more comments on this thread than on the whole front page of that other place!! :D

    • Sharyn G.

      That’s right! And spread the word to your fellow huffs if you can. Most if the links I leave over there are deleted so anything else helps.

      • fumes

        i’d help you in your effort Sharyn but like many other refugees I refused to do that FB thing and can’t post ”back there”. : (

        • Sharyn G.

          It’s okay. It’s better that there’s less traffic there actually. I’m on them like white on rice baby.

          • Robin S Summertown

            You’re not alone, there are one or two helping you in the fight.

          • fumes

            rof you go girl

      • Robin S Summertown

        Someone on here came up with idea for plugging the link to this site under their bio.

        • Sharyn G.

          That’s great, too. I can’t believe they’ve not banned that person and me. Ha!

          • Robin S Summertown

            It was mentioned that someone once again slipped in the info that we’re here and on Poynter. Either they’re so over whelmed and missed it or are giving up.

          • Sharyn G.

            Cool. In my posts from this a.m. I included both links. I just went back and they’re all gone. So, I left a few more :)

            I also said “why do you keep deleting my posts? Surely I’m not affecting anything. I dont have that power unless you give it to me by deleting me.”

            Also I asked “isn’t this supposed to be ‘news and opinion?’ Surely it’s not just your opinion you want. Or is it?”

            :-/

          • Robin S Summertown

            Its pretty obvious now, they don’t want the competition and are trying to force us to either stay or return.

          • Sharyn G.

            You got that right. A huge web site and they’re scared of dissent. They belong in Russia.

          • Sharyn G.

            Well, they just BANNED me!

            That tells me that we are ALL correct in thinking this is about money.

            I never said anything rude or bad. They banned me for my opinion on an opinion website.

            That’s the absolute HEIGHT of hypocrisy.

    • Eva Lawrence

      Hahaha you’re probably right!

    • Nokilissa

      The Post That Shall Remain Unnamed ;)

      • John Doe

        Is that the one started by the She Republican Who Shall Not Be Named?

  • Sharyn G.

    Well you guys, I’m at it again. I’ve been up since 3am PST on that huff thread peppering it again and leavings links to this site for anyone interested to join us.

    I’m sure ill be banned any minute, but until then ill try to spread the good word about our exodus!

    Ill be sleeping later! Work needs to be done.

    • HeyJude

      I just know you will save more of us! Now, having just come here and being an idiot to the workings …..I was unable to reply to the notice I received that you asked me a question. I clicked on reply and it took me to some strange place. So, in answer, I found my way here through YOU. I was monitoring the HP page of Tim’s announcement ever since I was locked out. Last night your post with the link to this article got through and I jumped on it. I never would have made my way here if all of you “warriors” hadn’t stayed camped out there and getting info through. HP did it’s darndest to bury it all…it left the front page, then it was off “media” and sent to “tech”, but if you didn’t already have it in your history, there was nowhere to get to the article from any main page. I think your warrior group also alerted us (me at least) to help keep clicks down all over the site. The ” tumbleweeds blowing through” means a whole lot of people joined that silent protest.

      • Sharyn G.

        I’m so so happy to hear it. I have spent an hour there this am posting again and I saw that someone had deleted EVERY comment I’d left last night. Ha!

        I left a bunch more but I feel they’ll be deleted as well. I won’t give up, though. I miss the friends I had there. They made my life better. I went deaf in 2008 and people at the huff made my life better by talking to me when no one in my real life had the patience anymore. They saved me. Ill work as hard as I can to get them all together. I’m still deaf but I can hear the hypocrisy of huffpo ringing in my ears!

        I was a Marine a long time ago and I know one thing and that’s how to persevere.

        If you go back in huff please post the link, too. As many times as we can get it there is great!

        Thank you ;) really-

        • Lance Wagstaffe

          You’re my hero Sharyn! I can’t comment there anymore unless I give up my cell number. I have no intention of doing that.

          • Sharyn G.

            Wonderful ! Finding out that even a few peeps found us here by a link I left only fires me up for my next mission there. Ha ha ha. I can’t believe I’m not banned yet.

        • Jrlh

          Man, Shar….I just logged on…and Damn….Your a woman possessed! I ever need to get something done, I know who I’m call’n on…:) lol

          • Sharyn G.

            Thanks. The people I met on huff, they helped me through a real bad time. I want to stay connected to as many as I can. I hate the blatant lies they thought we’d just easily buy into. I was a Marine once and once I am set on a task I won’t be deterred. Until they ban me anyways :) ill keep on posting this link until they “pry my iPhone from my cold, dead hands.”
            ;)

        • fumes

          YOU are the best SharynG!

        • Nokilissa

          Love you even more! My best friend’s daughter, and my goddaughter, who is 4 years old and MAHVELOUS, was born profoundly deaf. We are getting more and more involved in the Healthy Hearing community and have met so many amazing people. You’re another :)

          • Sharyn G.

            Sorry to hear it, but extremely happy that she has such loving people around her. It makes all the difference. Love to you and your family :)

        • DTVM

          Good morning, Sharyn G,

          I’m glad to know you’ve helped guide HP refugees to EPOCH TIMES.
          I was so exited to find out about it, I honestly don’t remember whose
          link brought me here — it may have been yours. I’ve spent hours
          following the controversy on HP and fanning and faving a lot of the
          posters to try show my support for their just complaints as I can’t comment any more thanks to HP’s dictatorial changes.

          I’d sooner die than open a Facebook account for ANY reason, least of all to verify my HP account after it betrayed me and thousands of others with its false promises and lies!

          Bravo Zulu for your service to our country as a Marine, and also for
          standing up to HP and helping people come to this very free and open site!

          Also I’m very sorry to hear about your deafness, but am impressed
          how well you seem to be coping with it and can even joke about
          it, as your comment ” I’m still deaf but I can hear the hypocrisy of huffpo ringing in my ears!” well attests!

          Your leaving HP is their great loss and EPOCH TIMES’ and our
          great gain! It will be an honor to follow you; and from what
          I’ve already learned about you here, you must have been one
          outstanding Marine!

          • Sharyn G.

            Thank you! And people like you are exactly the reason I am still around today. It’s been tough, but support from people I didn’t even know helped carry me though bad times.

            Thanks.

          • DTVM

            You’re most welcome, Sharyn, and thank you for including me
            with the people who have kept you around today — I feel honored.
            I want you to know I have your back and am here for you any time
            you want to talk.

            Unfortunately there’s nothing to be done to restore your hearing —
            I take it you’ve been told that on good medical authority — but
            we can “hear” each other fine on EPOCH TIMES and my ears
            are always available for you to bend.

            I have no idea how recent the picture of your avatar is, but assum-
            ing it’s of you, when it was taken doesn’t matter very much, for
            I see a strong Marine with an indomitable spirit!

          • Sharyn G.

            Thanks so much! That pic is from a year ago. And yes, I’m deaf forever and only surgery could help that. I will say though, that going deaf changed me in many ways for the better. I am actually a much better person now than I ever was before. I can’t really even express what I have learned through humility except to say that like Oedipus, I was blind to what I needed to see and now can see it.

            I love Ancient Greek history, philosophy, etc, and I interpret many things through this lens.

            It’s odd, but I had to go deaf to be able to finally hear things I should have been listening to my entire life.

            I thank you.

        • Rick Urban

          You’ve been doing a fantastic job, Sharyn! Thank you!

      • Robin S Summertown

        Many of the folks here found this site because of Sharyn, me included. And I’m glad I didn’t delete that stupid email I got with the link and the limp explanation for the change. Otherwise, I never would have known about this site since googling didn’t bring it up.

      • Nokilissa

        Along those same lines, is there any way to “permalink” one’s way to a previous comment to check on responses? I too am an inchoate idiot to the new ET and Disqus format…

      • Sharyn G.

        Very cool. Ill keep at it. I had to get some sleep but I’m awake again and my goal is to pepper them once again with versions of the same comments that include the link to here so we can at least connect through disqus! :)

    • Barbagris

      Thank you very much for your hard work! I am sure all the refugees appreciate it. I hope this will ultimately lead to a new and vibant Community and serve as a lesson to any other sites contemplating a move similar to HP’s.

      • Sharyn G.

        It’s absolutely worth it to me. The discussions I had with the quality folk at huffpo helped me in many ways. I lost all of my hearing a while back and the people I met at huff made me realize the Internet doesn’t care about my disability and it made us all equal. People there and now here listen to me, and people in my real life have stopped because its too much effort.

        I was sad about the huff situation, that’s why I refuse to give up so easy. I will hound them with messages until they can’t stand me anymore.

        Thanks.

        • Barbagris

          Semper fi

          • Sharyn G.

            Semper Fi Devil Dog

    • fumes

      you’re the link Sharyn!

      • Sharyn G.

        I will keep at it!

    • Nokilissa

      Loving YOU, Sharyn! Thank you and wonderful work :)

    • JCW43

      Hey Sharyn, there you are!! Good for you, my good girl! A thousand “thank yous” for leading us here. Once HP put out the edict to strip us all naked, I was done with posting, but still read posts to fave. Excellent job, my dear, and I look forward to a long and delightful relationship with the good people over here!

      • Sharyn G.

        SO HAPPY to see you ;)

        And the great thing is that Disqus is used all over the place so we can be connected at many sites. When I need a gossip fix I go over to US Weekly, they use disqus too.

        • JCW43

          Ooh yes, I too like US-If I miss any of my favorite trash TV shows, I can always catch up there!

          • Sharyn G.

            I always get catharsis there slamming celebs.

    • SWjr

      Thanks Sharyn!

  • satta

    HP is a private publication and they can and should be able to do whatever they want; require DNA samples and a $1,000 deposit before they let you post if that’s what they want. But their justification of “civility” and “accountability” rings hollow and their Tech Blog editor was ripped to shreds by thousands of pointed, critical comments posted by departing account holders. Anonymity is critical to debate; especially involving politically or culturally sensitive topics where real world consequences could befall those caught voicing unpopular opinions. Even the Federalist papers were written anonymously! Personally, I think they did it for the money. Well, with what looks like about 10% of the previous traffic hitting their site, it appears that they might have miscalculated. Looks like there might be demand in the market for a better version of HP.

  • HeyJude

    I just did a drive by at HP. I think the protest is getting even bigger! Hardly anyone is commenting anywhere…not on front page news, politics (Politics!!!), gay voices, religion, Huffpost50, media, science, it’s a zone of silence. We’re living in a hologram and no one will comment. LMAO The comments on the Tim article are waning, very few since yesterday, those that were making the most noise are pulling back or are being stifled. I would love to know the actual number of account closings, it appears to be huge…wonder what it will turn out to be.

    • Gojira

      I’m not sure that counting closed accounts would give you an accurate number. For instance I’m no longer going to the site, but I didn’t close my account.

      • Nokilissa

        Me neither. Someone said it earlier so beautifully, and I’m paraphrasing here, but let them scrape out my soiled cage for me.

    • fumes

      thx HeyJude!
      I think maybe now Arianna and Tim are having second thoughts.

    • S_herbert

      They had an article on the day of the change that was loaded with posts eviscerating them, very fun to read. I can’t find it now that I closed my account. Does not show up anywhere on Tech anymore. Shocker!

      • Robin S Summertown

        I can get you the link if you want it. They are moderating it pretty heavily now so its slow way down. I think its gotten to be something like 4500 posts.

        • S_herbert

          Thanks, but I think I am going cold turkey. It was fun to read others’ outrage, even though I could not add my voice. Sneaky change that it was. I just think it is so fitting that they have buried the story.

          • DTVM

            S_herbert,

            I don’t know that I’d say ” I just think it is so fitting that they have buried the story,” but it IS typical of the sneaky way they’ve come to operate.

      • John Doe

        Remove the extra space before com.

        The Huffington Post’s Suicide Note:

        http://www.huffingtonpost. com/tim-mcdonald/end-of-anonymity_b_4418630.html

        Tim Mcdonald Posted: 12/10/2013 12:49 pm

        • S_herbert

          Thanks.

        • SWjr

          Thanks. I just went to check and see how many of my buddies have left. I’m down 200 fans, with one foot out the door myself.

  • HeyJude

    I just got a “follow” from Malcontent90, who has not commented yet. His/her bio says he/she is searching for long lost HP family. Awwww. Malcontent, we’re here! You’ve made it to the right place. :-)

    • Malcontent90

      LOL I was late to this article but the link from HP brought me here.

      • HeyJude

        Excellent. Welcome….Epoch Times is awesome. :-)

        • Malcontent90

          Yeah it’s pretty good, I read a lot of news sites so adjusting is easy.

  • Jrlh

    Anyone getting the private message download…..I believe it is CONDUIT tool bar ploy…Don’t download it.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Where on the PM? Here?

      • Jrlh

        Yea, when I first logged in it said I had two private massages, and needed to download a program to view them…..Then I saw the conduit name and backed out.

  • Jrlh

    I have stayed away from Huff, for three days…..Not wanting them to get the clicks….Private browsed it a few minutes ago…..Whatever you guys are doing to get the word out keep it up!!
    They are still hemorrhaging, users….I could not tell if they ever deleted my account or not…..

    • Robin S Summertown

      Almost, really close to almost. I came this close to doing what I said I would never do and sign up for a Facebook account. Almost. Then I got angry. I had valid reasons for not being on FB and HP was not important enough to me to change that.

      • Nokilissa

        Stay strong, my sister! Easy does it. One day at a time ;)

      • S_herbert

        Exactly the same for me. I did not want one before and I will not be coerced into getting one now. Pisses me off. ( Nice to be able to write that instead of having comment deleted the second I hit submit!)

    • Canukistani

      Yeah, it’s like picking at a scab. I went for a look myself this morning. Very few of the articles in the Canadian section have more than 100 comments even though they’ve been there for a day or more. The US section is a little busier, but there’s nowhere near the volume of comments you’d expect on main articles.

      I think that’s it for me though. I don’t think I’ll go back even just to peek. I was there for years (since late ’05 or early ’06) and was both angry and disappointed at their turning HP into a Facebook app. But ok, they can do as they choose and live or die with it however it turns out. I’ll miss the friends that got scattered by this and hope to reconnect at some point, but there’s nothing on HP that I need to return for.

      • Terrapin

        The ones still posting there are the scabs….

        • Canukistani

          I wouldn’t go that far. Sure, some probably are, but there are still some good people there too. I can understand how tough a decision it can be to pick up and leave home after they’ve been there awhile. Look at all the people who periodically get flooded out or blown apart by tornadoes and return to rebuild in the same place, sometimes several times over.

          It wasn’t all that easy for me to pull the plug either, as far as that goes. I’d been there for a number of years and even when it started going downhill awhile back I was willing to stay because I thought it would get better. Now that it’s done, I’m happy with it and doubt I would never go back, but I do understand their reluctance to leave.

          • Terrapin

            Corporate coercion and deceit, to data-mine and monetize the personal info and free expression of the hoi polloi – which was and is the essential life and primary attraction of their billion dollar aggregating tabloid nuze site – is not in any way comparable to a force of nature.

            I find this latest betrayal to be completely unforgivable. Even if they corrected it today – (which they will not) I would never post there ever again.

            But i recognize this is a fringe minority and contrarian view. HP will recover, and be just fine thank you very much, under this new regimen. (After a precipitous collapse, the post counts there seem to be rebounding already.) Plenty of good folks have absolutely no problem with it, and have fully accepted and embraced this as the new normal. Fine. I understand that. But i don’t have to like it, and have no intention of ever getting my own mind right for it.

            HP is thoroughly toxic, on many levels. As i’ve kept away from it since this ‘last straw’ of degradation, i am genuinely surprised to realize just how vehemently i really detested SideBoob Post. The comments were always the prime attraction for me – even despite The. Worst. moderation anywhere on the interwebs. Many aspects of the forum structure worked quite well, and its high national profile and broad political spectrum of posters made for a nice mix. But its management, and now brazen exploitation, have been quite intolerable for some time, Still searching/hoping for a viable and unshackled alternative.

            Didn’t Colbert once put up a satirical mirror HP site ? We need something along those lines – similar basic platform without the uber-greedhead central scrutinizer scam.

          • Canukistani

            I agree completely with your anger and outrage and feel the same about the corporate entities driving this. If anything, I think you’re being too kind to them. They will go on though, as you say. Their kind always do, it seems, to the detriment of the rest of us.

            I do have some sympathy for those in the HP community that can’t bring themselves to move on, though. I just hope there are a few voices that can penetrate the corporate wall long enough to convince them that there is life after HP.

          • Terrapin

            Not sure how to express it exactly, but somehow i do regard them as scabs, but without personal ire or condemnation ? (ha, makes no sense does it, yet, that’s my view.) This is the world our corporate overlords have fashioned for us. And people absolutely love it.

            I don’t.

          • Canukistani

            Nor do I. Nor will I.

          • fumes

            you’re two tents!

            i agree with most of what you said (the ones still there are good people tho) it’s the way you said it that says you’re in a world of hurt.

            let go of one tent

      • fumes

        ”Yeah, it’s like picking at a scab”

        rof

    • ChrisDC

      My account was technically deleted when I deleted it. (Out of curiosity, I tried to reactivate it using the link they sent me, but I got a message that it was invalid for reactivation. I think I may have ticked them off.) But they’re still showing me as being there. Maybe they’re a bit spooked at owning up to how many of us have left.

      • Robin S Summertown

        Interesting, next stop, a try to see if I can log in using that link.

        • Robin S Summertown

          Nope, wouldn’t let me in without a FB account.

      • Vega

        I thought my account was deactivated, never got an email, but going to HP and click on logon and its still there, no profile, but all my comments remain, and it shows 5300+ fans (had to search my username and look at one of my comments). I did have 136 notifications waiting. HP it seems is not deleting accounts. Changed my bio to “go to the epochtimes”.

        • ChrisDC

          Genius. I’m not sure, but I think they’re spooked at the number who’ve left. Their site traffic is way, way, down.

  • fumes

    I’d been with huffpo since 1994. this is historic. netwise anyway!

    • Robin S Summertown

      And I’m whining about being there since 09.

      You have had the opportunity to see the changes over the years, for me it was the AOL deal and from there its been steadily downhill since.

      • fumes

        i’ve been corrected by Coppernicus! that must have been amazon i’ve been with since ’94. love amazon. LOVE PRIME!!!

        • Robin S Summertown

          Yeah, but you were there when it was a good place to be. Even if you had a senior moment and got your very different sites confused. Within a few short years of my being there it began to slide.

          Which reminds me, I need to get over to Amazon to order a couple of books.

          • fumes

            you’re sweet!

          • fumes

            have you read ”I am Malala” ?

            AWESOME little girl! I take that back: AWESOME young lady!

    • Coppernicus

      That strange considering HP launched May 9, 2005. You are very sarcastic or a our first troll?

      • fumes

        lol. ru sure? maybe that’s amazon then! not a troll and definitely been around since the getgo.

        • Coppernicus

          Pretty sure Arianna was still rubbing elbows with Newt in the early 90′s and supporting Dole for president. I however could be wrong.

          • ChrisDC

            No, you’re right. That’s when she was married to Michael.

          • fumes

            rabid con as i recall. you don’t think she was spoofing us all this time do you?

      • fumes

        you’re right! (my bad);

        fumes
        Member Since December 2005
        Comments (26324) | Friends (278)

        • Coppernicus

          No worries. I knew for sure she was big in the Republican Revolution for Newt…any hoo, welcome.

          • fumes

            THANKS!

  • fumes

    uh-oh!!! here comes the snow (northern nj)

    • HeyJude

      Hey, we’re neighbors! Northeast PA, Pocono Mts…..here too. Being snowed in will give me time to meander around this site. Already finding it interesting and love the easy commenting and format. I think this will replace my HP addiction nicely. :-)

      • Robin S Summertown

        It has mine, especially with the more recent commenting changes on HP. All that clicking just to read an entire thread was aggravating to say the least.

        • fumes

          so far no aggravation here! tho i haven’t figured out how to return the favor of those following me? hidden in plain sight is my guess hehehe.

          • Coppernicus

            Hover over the hover card?

          • fumes

            now i REALLY feel stupid!!!

            hover card???

          • Coppernicus

            Your picture, it contains lots of info and a follow button. :)

          • fumes

            too funny! i got out my discovercard and waved it at the screen..

            but nothing happened (kidding)

          • Robin S Summertown

            Don’t feel stupid, I didn’t know what they were talking about either. I asked. At least they couldn’t see how foolish I looked.

      • Coppernicus

        Are those your ponies? I have one myself, in fact today is farrier day for him.

        • HeyJude

          Cool! What do you have? Farrier day….I spend more on horses shoes than I ever have on my own. :-) So yes, those are my babies, and thanks for asking! I will natter on endlessly about them with small prompting. I always explain the picture, it’s deceiving. The smaller brown horse in the back is a full size QH/TB cross at 15.3h. The illusion is created by the white percheron draft in the front. He is enormous at 17.3 h, 2000 lbs. :-O He is the best riding horse ever, I ride him English (ha!). Sure looks funny, but it’s the best. From the road, people think we have a horse and a pony, then they get up close and realize OMG. LOL

          • Coppernicus

            I have a 5 year old QH at 15.1 I’m trying to educate. I’m going the vaquero route, I hope make him a bridle horse and working cow horse.
            You are right, he does look like a pony.

          • HeyJude

            Good luck! Have you ever trained before? I separate being an experienced rider from being a trainer and am aware of my huge limitations. Whenever I buy a new horse, it is always already done and my job is just to maintain all those good manners. That’s not hard. My farrier coincidentally is a QH breeder, trainer, and works the cows….I’ve gone to his farm to see them in action, and it’s amazing what they do. I’ll be interested in keeping up with your progress. :-) Oh…to ride that “pony” english, it took a 54 inch girth with 2 extenders. OUCH!!

          • Coppernicus

            No, very new to me. But unlike current cultural norms I am in no rush and don’t need him to be show quality now, sorry a bit of a rant. I live in western pleasure central and what people do to a 2 yr old horse is shocking to me. We were out in Mt last summer, he did really well. I really lucked out when I tell people he is 5 they don’t believe me. He acts like 15 or 20 year old horse. I will keep you updated. We had some nice break throughs recently on some of his braces, mainly the hind quarters.

          • HeyJude

            You changed your picture…he’s beautiful! And I agree, seeing how some people train horses is like watching sausage being made. Going the kind route is more successful IMO, for everyone involved, especially the horse. They have long memories, and trust is key.

      • fumes

        love the Poconos! i would fly over them often in autumn just for the leaves!

  • Jrlh

    Seems that all my right wing friends are content to just comment on the left leaning Huff articles with no one to bicker back and forth with….(Or at least I have not seen any of them here yet, I don’t think) Actually, I don’t think they realize that there is anyone with an opposing view left to argue with….That’s just not right, you can’t just argue with a website…after all the commenters have left the building. Where’s the fun in that?

    • Coppernicus

      Jimmy back in Aug on his CNN interview said he wanted the moderators out in the “community” engaged in dialogue not cleaning up (and I quote) “the nonsense”. Perhaps they get to bicker with the moderators now?

  • Barbagris

    4 Days off the HP ‘crack pipe’ and I’m feeling really good. Still miss seeing some of my old friends and fans, but feeling pretty confident that they’ll show up at sometime. I know right now the refugees are pretty focused on the demise of HP but in a short while I expect we’ll be getting back to real issues of the day. Look forward to that. There is a large (relative to population) contingent of Canadian posters here and I encourage ET to think about designing a ‘Canadian Politics Section’ to hold onto this group of engaging people. Canadians often have very well informed views on the news and politics of our large southern neighbour, but all too often our southern cousins are not well informed on Canadian issues, many of which affect our U.S. Partners. Tar Sands, Pipelines, Border Security and the rise of and current decline of a Conservative Fascist Harper government. “Onward Thru the Fog!” – Oat Willy

    • Canukistani

      Well said! There is a Canadian section here, and I hope it’ll be expanded if enough interest is shown. I’m also hoping that since there seems to be quite a number of us HP refugees that the fine folks here are ready to cope with the influx of so many of us in a short space of time. Seems like a nice place to be so I wouldn’t want to be causing them problems.

      • Cindy Drukier

        Thanks for the feedback about Canadian Huffpogees! We’re taking it all in. We can’t always count on Rob Ford news to fill our CanCon quota. ;)

        • Canukistani

          Naw he’s bound to have a final implosion sometime, but rest assured, the Harper crowd is always doing something they shouldn’t and that should help keep things interesting.

          Thanks for giving us HuffPo castaways such a friendly shore to wash up on. We appreciate it.

    • fumes

      FREE Marc Emery!!!

      lose that cartoon mayor of Toronto!

      such a beautiful town Toronto..

      otherwise.

    • ChrisDC

      Canadians “often” have very well-informed views?

      Try “usually.” Keep speaking up please.

  • fumes

    miss coinyer and forpeace and probo and kbeth and nicon and deepthinkingman and and and..

    hope they find their way here! these are EPOCH TIMES!!!

    • ChrisDC

      coinyer’s posting over on Poynter, commenting on the article there about this subject. You can find him there. If you run across ChristianLady1, can you point her in my direction?

      • fumes

        roger Roger!

        and thanks

  • fumes

    love EPOCH TIMES!!!

  • Joe Doorman

    now that arianna is in bed with big brother.. wonder what their love child HP will turn into.

    I’ve left that dysfunctional relationship

    ..all this talk about web sites been held responsible for anonymous comment is alarming.

    …the push to control information on the internet is mounting.
    the main stream media masters want to stifle public opinion
    HP must be the poster child… hopefully it will become just another boring censored site.
    no freedom… should mean no interest

  • Jrlh
    • Robin S Summertown

      This ruling seems wrong on so many levels. What’s next? Over hearing a conversation on the street with someone saying a negative comment about X company and having the right to control that speech by suing?

      • Jrlh

        Yea, I can hear the Lawyer Television ads now….(“Have you overheard others speaking ill of you…Of a Loved One?”…”If so call Barker, Tattle and Nash for your free consultation”)

        • geesepeace

          I’d skip the lawyer and hire a thug if this is where we are going.

    • apogee2perogee

      So, I have to wonder if HP imagines they can shift some legal responsibility to FB with the new requirements?

      • Jrlh

        I was just thinking if it might have something to do with Huffpos European sites and what they saw as future liability problem…Naaaaa

        • apogee2perogee

          There are certainly stranger rationalizations….

  • Jrlh

    Maybe you ‘all have read this….Maybe not. I had not and it made me think ….If Tim really thought posters were the life-blood…..What is he thinking now?

    http://socialmediatoday.com/Big_Brand_Theory/huffington-post-and-its-communities-commenters

    • Robin S Summertown

      Did you see the date? Two months ago. I wonder if he’d be willing to discuss HP and its community with them today.

      • fumes

        to quote Tim: ”Things Change”

      • DTVM

        Hi, Robin,

        I wonder also if Tim McDonald would be willing to talk with Ric Dragon today.
        I think not; but McDonald seems so oblivious to the disaster he’s helped
        create, I wouldn’t be completely surprised if he did — even as the water
        laps at the top deck of the sinking ship HP.

        • HarukoHaruhara

          You mean Tim “I get it” McDonald?

    • BornOkayTheFirstTime

      From the article: “In 2010, Huffington Post acquired a small technology company, Adaptive
      Semantics, for their software system JuLiA, which does a great deal of
      the heavy lifting in insuring spam comments don’t make it to the light
      of day. In addition to JuLiA, there is a cadre of about 50 human
      moderators that make up the Huffington Post community team.”

      Yeah, how’s that work? In the last week or so I’d seen and flagged a small mountain of “make money from home” bot posts. Not only do spam comments see the light of day there, they seem either unable or unwilling to do anything to stop it. I’m still not convinced flagging is anything more than placebo.

      • fumes

        right on everything!

        totally LOVE your moniker!

      • DTVM

        Well said, BornOkayTheFirstTime. Although I was an active poster
        on HP for just the last 11 months and have essentially been shut
        out now as I refuse to forgive its betrayal and follow its absurd new
        rule for account verification, I observed what you noted and never saw
        a post I flagged removed — even one that was an almost transparent
        threat against a president!

        So in my relative short and briefly pleasant time on HP I learned to
        take almost anything HP said it was doing or would do not with a grain
        but with a barrel of salt!
        ;-(

  • Coppernicus

    There is a petition now,

    http://www.change.org/petitions/huffington-post-reconsider-their-recent-format-moderation-and-linking-fb-to-hp

    It maybe too late after all the veiled lies. I don’t know how they could expect to rebuild trust.

    • Robin S Summertown

      I knew about the petition but it was on HP so was not clickable for me. Glad you got it up, although even if they changed their minds after this, I won’t go back.

      • fumes

        zackly!

        trust has a dealbreaker clause in it.. and they broke it.

        can’t un-ring that bell

        • Vega

          my sentiment exactly ……. I would no longer trust HP with any of my information.

          ps my account is still not deleted, looks like HP wants to hang on to accounts to keep their subscriber numbers looking good.

    • SWjr

      Thanks. I signed it, but even if they change, I may not go back.

      • TigerLily2012

        Hey :D

        • SWjr

          Hey :D

          • TigerLily2012

            :) Lol the site is down now, but would you be interested in trying out another site? It’s a disquis site like this. Same type of layout. Lots of hp people

          • SWjr

            Sure. Where is it.

          • TigerLily2012

            http://all-len-all.com

            like i said it’s down now >.> But should be up soon. Some weird format is up. we think we got hacked.

          • SWjr

            OK. I’ll save it and check later.

          • TigerLily2012

            cool. tried to give it to you on hp, but i guess it didn’t go through.

          • fumes

            all-len-all’s been hacked.

            DeepThinkingMan and kbeth are there or were..

            but it doesn’t load now.

          • TigerLily2012

            :( Yeah

      • msanonymous222

        Ditto. It was such a breach of trust.

    • bastalready

      Thanks!

      • TigerLily2012

        Bastal :)

        • bastalready

          Hi there!!! : )

          • TigerLily2012

            hiya

          • bastalready

            If that offer still holds to touch base with rednrag…but only if you are completely at comfotable with it. Since this is a news site I thought you might be,if not,no problem.I’ll look around. Thanks.

          • TigerLily2012

            if I see him, i’ll invite him.

          • bastalready

            Thank-you.I have repub friends . He is one of them.

          • TigerLily2012

            lol not sure how he’ll like being in a room full of liberals. but we’ll see.

          • bastalready

            This is a news site so…hopefully ok. He hold his own politely unless he is attacked then he will respond a bit more fiercely.It’s hard to believe other cons won’t show here at some point if not already.

          • TigerLily2012

            we’ll see if he’s interested.

          • bastalready

            There you go.

        • JainDohNYC

          …and you!

      • JainDohNYC

        oh, hey – I know you! :)

        • bastalready

          It’s the scarf, right? ; )

          • JainDohNYC

            oh, indeed! it’s particularly fetching…..

          • bastalready

            Thanks!!!

    • Winston Sleeves

      Only 8 signatures so far? Did it just come on? I hope so.

      • SWjr

        It’s really hard to find without a direct link. It doesn’t come up in any searches at Change.org. People are trying to post the link over at HP, but it keeps getting blocked.

        • Winston Sleeves

          Ah…well I hope more people find it somehow.

          • SWjr

            I’m going to keep trying. I love getting things past the censors there.

      • fumes

        i checked it out and..

        1. it wants too much personal info again lol and

        2. who cares if HP finally gets it and changes back? they’re toast now!

      • DTVM

        I don’t know when the petition first came on, but I saw it about
        4 hours ago and was the fourth one to sign it.

        So it seems to be picking up signatures fairly slowly, but I hope
        it gains momentum as more people become aware of it and sign.

        It doesn’t cost anyone anything to sign, and if enough people do
        it will at least serve as a public rebuke to HP.

    • Canukistani

      I agree. Even if they revoked the new policy, how could we go back now that we know how little they value us?

      • epazote

        Nope. They lied…there’s no going back to huff-poop

    • Gin1234

      If they respond and change the FB link, and change the moderation. I could go back. That would at least mean that they listened. But that might never happen. I realize that.

    • Zibop

      Signed.

    • DTVM

      I don’t know either how HP could expect to rebuild trust, but I signed Johnny
      Holland’s petition anyway — I was the fourth HP refugee to sign — and think
      it’s worth doing anyway. If a significant number sign it, at least HP can’t
      pretend everything is A-OK on their site and everyone is happy as a clam.

      At least the very existence of the petition will give our grievances wider
      notice and give HP some comeuppance, even if they still prefer to go down
      in flames.

      NoManIsAnIsland from HP, DTVM here (as NMIAI was already taken when
      I joined DISQUS, unfortunately).

      • Robin S Summertown

        My concern is that business about full name, addy to sign. I’m mean, I won’t do FB over privacy but while I’m angry I’ll give it out because I’m PO’ed at HP?

        • DTVM

          I take you point, Robin. While I have signed hundreds of petitions on change.org and other places with my full name and have been willing for it to be seen publicly, in this case I checked the box NOT to display my name publicly and I’m sure that will be honored.

          I think it will be safe for you to the same.

    • Rick Urban

      Hiya, Copper! Good to see you here! Thanks for this link.

    • abxnomore

      At this point, I don’t want anything to do with HP. They showed their true colors, treated us without respect and they lied. The site is now a piece of garbage and it’s not going to change. It’s just another sold out, corporate rag.

  • Zibop

    Hello, hello. Testing, testing. So great to find where a lot of [former] HPers went to. Glad I hung around hp long enough to see this link posted–and forgot who posted it. Thank you, whoever did.

    I refuse to get an FB account and I won’t be bullied into it either.

    • TigerLily2012

      Hey :)

      • Zibop

        TigerLily! Great to see you!

        • TigerLily2012

          You to. ^_^

    • SWjr

      Hi.

      • Zibop

        Hi, SWjr.

        I’m liking this board format much better (than hp’s) already.

        • SWjr

          Me too.

    • Lindstr7

      Welcome Zibop

      • Zibop

        Feeling at home already with such a nice welcome, Lindstr.

    • fumes

      thanks goes to SharynTG..

      • Zibop

        Thanks Fumes and many thanks to Sharyn TG!

    • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

      Howdy, stranger! When did -you- return to this spiral arm?

  • SWjr

    OK. I had a slight success at HP. People were asking for the link to the petition and I got this to post:

    You can find a link at The Epoch Times dot com. In the comment section of the article about the new requirements here. The article in in the tech section under social media.

    It can get some people here AND to the petition.

  • Gin1234

    I’ve been trying to figure out what is behind all of this, and if H P goes by the number of clicks to keep making money, that is the reason for the new format as well. With the old format, the entire conversation is laid out in front of you, and there is no activity minvolved in reading it. Now, not only do they get the person reading the thread to click on the thread, there are at least to more clicks inside many of the comments, opening up each comment under the responses and the responses to the responses brings them in all the more money with each reader. With my limited knowledge of what goes on in technology and behind the scenes, I am just guessing why they made the format into a maze and a nightmare instead of what their posters actually want.

  • Lindstr7

    I keep trying to pull up the other article on ET about Tim McD dismissing complaints and I keep getting this weird window with all these blank spaces and the article below but no comments section?? Anyone know how to fix this? Refreshing pages does not work. Thanks.

    • Canukistani

      Yeah, me too. No idea what’s going on with that. I thought it was just me.

      • Lindstr7

        I did get the article in its normal format once, but now every time I try to access it I’m getting that weird screen. I can’t get to my comments arrrrrgh!

        • Canukistani

          I could get to the article itself, but not to any of the comments. I just got a couple of rows of blank clickable boxes that didn’t do anything when I clicked them. I know there are people commenting there so somebody must have the secret.

        • ChrisDC

          Me, too. If you figure out how it works, could you let me know?

    • SWjr

      It’s working for me. Did you access it from the link in this article? That’s what I did.

      • Lindstr7

        Voila! That worked….thanks!

      • Canukistani

        Worked for me too. Thanks!

    • Lindstr7

      It seems to happen whenever I’m in “notifications” in my profile and I click on a response to a comment.

    • Patton Diao

      Try the link in the middle of the article because the bottom one brings up the one you mentioned. Or here it is:
      http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/396442-huffington-post-comments-huffpost-exec-dismisses-widespread-criticism-of-new-system/

  • TigerLily2012

    All-len-all working again :)

    • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

      Yeah, mostly? I got stuck in the Political Forum; couldn’t get back?

      Oh, boy, I sure do looove that dashboard!

      • TigerLily2012

        lol. i’m in the chat room. good luck.

        • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

          I know, it’s weird, huh? This just like a chat room, too? Who knew?

          • Jrlh

            Yea, I’ve been having IRC flashbacks for two days!

          • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

            No doubt. About that PPOV link? Yeah, that got a -huge- response from the folks at All-len-All.com.

            Mostly positive, but many were understandably po’d — but at least they received better way to focus all that wrath?

          • TigerLily2012

            yeah

    • SWjr

      Great. I’m checking it out.

      • TigerLily2012

        yay

    • bastalready

      Thanks.. tried there earlier could not get in.

      • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

        Hey! It’s a tiny little microcosm of a much bigger club now! (me too)

        Me neither? Don’t step in the micro-biohazards?

        • bastalready

          Good advice! ; )

        • Rick Urban

          Hiya, ranchero! Good to see you!

      • Rick Urban

        Hi, basta! The last time I saw you yesterday we got caught up in blackhole! Glad everything has settled back down with disqus!

    • Rick Urban

      Yay!!! Hi, Lily!

  • Trubeliever

    Another HP refugee here. (termgirl.)
    I had been disenchanted with HP for some time. I hung in through the badges debacle and the AOL purchase, more out of stubbornness than anything else. I just didn’t want to see what was once a haven for liberal thought and commentary being taken over by greater numbers of RW hacks. Over time, it just became more and more frustrating…. comments held up for days, comments that were in no way in violation of their guidelines being deleted, etc., but most importantly, it was the quality of the site itself. They have reduced themselves to being maybe a half a notch higher than the National Enquirer.

    The verification requirement was the nail in the coffin for me. I canceled my account.
    I will not visit HP. That would be like dropping by the house of a former abusive boyfriend.
    Just like that boyfriend; HP isn’t the only fish in the sea.
    It’s really great to see so many familiar faces here.

    • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

      I’ve heard rumors it’s a huge club now; whoever screen prints the t-shirts will make out like a bandit?

      • Trubeliever

        I’m in!

        • http://ranchero42.wordpress.com/ ranchero42

          Hopefully; they don’t conform to a familiar -pattern- ? You, know, one opinion “size” -fits all- ?

    • Robin S Summertown

      True, all true. I’m becoming more and more relieved that they did this, it forced my hand to move on.

      • Trubeliever

        Agreed. I finally pulled the plug…..and it actually feels good.

        • Robin S Summertown

          Yeah, doesn’t it?

        • Barbagris

          It’ll feel better by the day. Welcome True, from a Huffpoop Canada refugee.

      • DTVM

        Me too, Robin, and I wish I could post here as “NoManIsAnIsland”
        (but I registered on DISQUS a few years ago and someone had
        already taken the name) as I did on HP and will on PlanetPOV as
        I’ve already registered there — but can’t even find the FAQ section it recommends new users to read, let alone locate the discussion about
        HP!

        • Robin S Summertown

          I’m struggling with POV myself. Without the links like Jrlh and a couple of others have posted, I wouldn’t find them either.

        • Jerrygkayaks

          I believe you can edit your name in their profile page.

      • Jerrygkayaks

        Like finding yourself a refugee looking for a new home. The old gang has scattered from the HP Gestapo.

    • Canukistani

      Welcome aboard. It seems that quite a number of us are ending up here and finding it an improvement. There is life after HP!

      • Trubeliever

        Thank you, Canuckistani.
        Absolutely.

    • Lindstr7

      Glad you found EpochTimes. You’re not alone in your frustration.

      • Trubeliever

        Hi, Lindstr7.

        It didn’t take us long to find fellow ex-pats. : )
        I’m actually relieved to have one less stresser in life.

    • Jrlh

      I am really starting to feel like the only RW hack that defected…..lol

      • Trubeliever

        lol We have something in common, Jrlh. : ).

      • imusintheevening

        Well they are refreshingly rare here for now……… ;-) )

        • Jrlh

          lol….Life would be no fun if everyone was of the same mindset….Hell, my wife and I don’t agree half the time….Of course she’s a PETA type so I am used to extreme’s!

          • Robin S Summertown

            I was just getting ready to post there is RW and then there’s RW (imagine this in bold), the same way there is LW, etc.

            I’m all for moderates from either side to join together for discussion. It keeps us thinking about other points of view.

            As an Independent, I don’t normally vote a straight ticket. Well, that used to be true. In the past few years its been a straight party line or none at all.

    • Terrapin

      x 2

    • Rick Urban

      Hello, termgirl!! You look vaguely familiar!!!! ;) Lolz! How are you? So glad to see you here, my friend!

      • Trubeliever

        Hiya, Rick.
        I would know that dog anywhere.
        Great to see you.

        • Rick Urban

          Well this dog is ‘following’ you now!! :D

    • Jerrygkayaks

      You’ve expressed my feelings nicely. I’m currently bouncing back and forth between the two sites. Hate the attitude HP refers to as policy but enjoy the political give and take.
      The RW hacks were mostly LOUD and boring with their mindless nit picking and over the top rage against anything less than radical conservatism. But it was stimulating to discuss differences with the more moderate and fact based comments from the other side of the political spectrum.
      Miss the old gang that gathered there. Old friends are like old shoes – comfy.

      • Robin S Summertown

        We will settle in and go back more to what we’re on these sites for. Right now the freedom is exhilarating.

      • Trubeliever

        Totally agree with you about the friends, Jerry.
        Sadly, the “old-timers,” who knew HP when it was a wonderful gathering place that allowed actual conversations, were dwindling, even before the latest gauntlet was thrown down. I will miss the days when we could post music links, and weren’t bogged down by the ever-inconsistent moderation. I will miss the friends who are still there….but not what HP has become.

  • Jrlh
    • 5256f431@opayq.com

      I just found it seconds ago and was going to post it here :-)

      It nails the corporatization of huffpoo over the years. I’m a huffpoo refugee…

    • Robin S Summertown

      Great read. I really like the chronology of HPoo before and what it is now.

  • Lindstr7

    NIfty tool. If a comments thread is getting long, you can “collapse” it by hitting the “-” icon to the right of the comment (where the “flag” is)

    Edit: well it only collapses one comment at a time, not the whole thread.

    • Robin S Summertown

      Oh, that’s what that’s for. That could be dangerous if the mouse wanders a little to far to the right. I wonder if you can unflag a post.

  • cashey1

    Greetings non-sheeple………another HP exile(Cashey), here

    • Robin S Summertown

      HI Cashe. The brain drain continues from that other site.

    • imusintheevening