After the Chinese communist regime denied extracting organs from living Falun Gong practitioners at the Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine in Sujiatun, The Epoch Times interviewed two sources . These sources urged investigation of labor camps throughout China where Falun Gong practitioners are detained. Falun Gong practitioners were transferred to and detained at the Sujiatun Thrombosis Hospital because all the labor camps were full at the time. Now the Chinese communist regime has removed all evidence from Sujiatun. Below is the interview conducted by The Epoch Times:
ET: Recently, the Chinese communist regime openly invited different organizations to investigate Sujiatun. Do you think it is fine for the media to go investigate now?
Peter: I feel it is unnecessary for this investigation group to go to Sujiatun because they will be completely unable to find any witness or evidence. I believe Sujiatun has been thoroughly cleaned up and nothing can be found. Investigation under this circumstance will find no witness or evidence, not even a single trace or clue. This is the method the Chinese communist regime uses all the time.
ET: I remember you mentioned during a previous interview with The Epoch Times that, on the surface, Sujiatun looks like a formal hospital. The latest investigative findings from the U.S. Department of State found no evidence of abnormal hospital function or that it was being used for other purposes. What is your opinion on this?
Peter: Because this hospital was indeed a formal hospital, it provides the best cover for evil conduct to be secretly performed. Therefore, if you want to investigate it from the surface, you won't find anything.
ET: Annie, what is your opinion?
Annie: I think the quick walk-through by the investigative group is even unfair to those who were killed. We as sources traveled thousands of miles to come to the United States. We need this big country to help protect our China.
ET: The Chinese communist regime claimed that this hospital can only hold three hundred patients, so it can't hold 6,000 people. How do you respond to this?
Annie: I never said that the detained Falun Gong practitioners were living in the public wards; they were detained in specific secret facilities. This hospital doesn't perform transplant surgeries, but it performs organ extractions. After they extracted organs, they transferred the organs to other hospitals for transplant surgeries or sold them somewhere else.
ET: The Chinese communist regime claimed the hospital only has about 20 doctors, so they can't perform such a large number of transplant surgeries. In regards to those approximately 20 doctors, do you think the doctors in the hospital are extracting organs or are there other doctors?
Annie: Some doctors in this hospital perform the organ extractions. For example, my ex-husband was transferred to Sujiatun from another hospital. Many were medical practitioners transferred from other hospitals to perform such surgeries.
ET: Now many organizations have expressed that they would like to independently investigate these cases. Peter and Annie, because you said a moment ago that no evidence can be found at Sujiatun, if the investigative groups goes there now, in your opinion, where should the investigation take place to find valid evidence? What is your suggestion?
Annie: From the beginning, the Sujiatun death camp was only the tip of the iceberg. Since we already exposed that Sujiatun hospital was performing organ extractions, there will be no evidence found if investigations are now conducted at Sujiatun. With that in mind, places that will have evidence are other hospitals such as the General Army Hospital or other military hospitals, as well as some epidemic hospitals and mental hospitals, but the most important are labor camps and police stations at various locations—places where Falun Gong practitioners were detained, and places where Falun Gong practitioners are being detained. Yes, there will definitely be evidence at those places.
Among the people I knew then, they also said Falun Gong practitioners were transferred from different locations, instead of being sent to Sujiatun Thrombosis Hospital from the beginning. They were transferred from Masanjia Forced Labor Camp, as well as other labor camps, Dabei prison, and police stations from various locations. Therefore, it would be better to go to other places to investigate. In addition, I don't think people selected by the Chinese communist regime should lead the investigative group. They would know where Falun Gong practitioners are not detained. It is better to let some Falun Gong practitioners in China and those with inside information lead the investigative group. In my opinion, it is impossible to not find evidence of such massive killing.
ET: You just mentioned labor camps. At that time, was it because there were too many people at the labor camps, and the labor camps couldn't hold them all, that they were sent to hospitals?
Annie: Yes. Because many people were detained at that time in the local police stations and labor camps. Since those places already had many criminals, there were not many places to detain Falun Gong practitioners then. Therefore, Falun Gong practitioners were secretively transferred to some hospitals. People belonging to the Department of Health did not know that Falun Gong practitioners were being detained at the Thrombosis Hospital.